In reply to Post #15
I remember a conversation with Roger Smith in the mid 80s where he recounted tales of sml carp coming from Redmire and some of the lakes that they ended up in.
I find it hard to imagine fish going in the other direction. it doesn't make a lot of sense. Although Carp migration in the late 70s and early 80s was rife.
I remember a conversation with Roger Smith in the mid 80s where he recounted tales of sml carp coming from Redmire and some of the lakes that they ended up in.
I find it hard to imagine fish going in the other direction. it doesn't make a lot of sense. Although Carp migration in the late 70s and early 80s was rife.
My favourite book is 'confessions of a carp angler'by BB,every night I read a page or two before I sleep,I must have read that book lots of times...
Anyway,being very interested in the history of carp angling,BB alludes to moving carp from Beechmere to another water some 15 miles from the coppermine,he used to embasket the small carp and relocate them...I also happen to have found another water,another open cast mine that also has carp from Beechmere in its depths,...I know this as the groundsman above my lake uses the quarry for his peregrine studies and lives near the quarry...
Also,...interestingly a water once fished by the god father of Cornish carping..(Ken)....its mentioned in Swest memories,had fish from the A 30 ponds when the road tween Kernow and Exrter was built...they were mirrors...
I also found that Peter Mohan,was instrumental in stocking many quarries locally,my fishing partner lives literally next to an old pit,all stocked by Peter..
Anyway,being very interested in the history of carp angling,BB alludes to moving carp from Beechmere to another water some 15 miles from the coppermine,he used to embasket the small carp and relocate them...I also happen to have found another water,another open cast mine that also has carp from Beechmere in its depths,...I know this as the groundsman above my lake uses the quarry for his peregrine studies and lives near the quarry...
Also,...interestingly a water once fished by the god father of Cornish carping..(Ken)....its mentioned in Swest memories,had fish from the A 30 ponds when the road tween Kernow and Exrter was built...they were mirrors...
I also found that Peter Mohan,was instrumental in stocking many quarries locally,my fishing partner lives literally next to an old pit,all stocked by Peter..
In reply to Post #17
And.......and I'm glad Midlandman started this thread,because there is a connection here in Cornwall with Donald Leney,Surrey trout farm,if the info I have is correct..
Many years ago now i was a member of a three man membership lake,that lake formerly known as Shillamill,nr lanreath.Before John Facey sold it to Christine and John,I was told the fish were of the same heritage as Bernithan carp,leney fish....now,I fished there pretty much solo for seven yrs til it was sold to'they party'...upwards..,I caught a lot of fish,fish that were not like any other carp I caught before..I have ALL the pics in 35mm,blind taken using a cane for focusing,and air release system....
The lakes,were terribly ottered and a Alfa slurry tank disaster did for the lakes health,sadly its now shut as a fishery,and used purely for aesthetic hot tub holidays...urrrrrrhhhhhh..
Skeff has the list,or a list of Donalds stocking's but it remains to be seen if my info is true..
There is also a small water down Kernow,which was reptuted to have wildies,not ferals but proper wildies,the ones with the prominent notch,like welsh wildies...I have caught one of these too...
And.......and I'm glad Midlandman started this thread,because there is a connection here in Cornwall with Donald Leney,Surrey trout farm,if the info I have is correct..
Many years ago now i was a member of a three man membership lake,that lake formerly known as Shillamill,nr lanreath.Before John Facey sold it to Christine and John,I was told the fish were of the same heritage as Bernithan carp,leney fish....now,I fished there pretty much solo for seven yrs til it was sold to'they party'...upwards..,I caught a lot of fish,fish that were not like any other carp I caught before..I have ALL the pics in 35mm,blind taken using a cane for focusing,and air release system....
The lakes,were terribly ottered and a Alfa slurry tank disaster did for the lakes health,sadly its now shut as a fishery,and used purely for aesthetic hot tub holidays...urrrrrrhhhhhh..
Skeff has the list,or a list of Donalds stocking's but it remains to be seen if my info is true..
There is also a small water down Kernow,which was reptuted to have wildies,not ferals but proper wildies,the ones with the prominent notch,like welsh wildies...I have caught one of these too...
In reply to Post #18
Chris Ball has Donald's stocking records.
Chris Ball has Donald's stocking records.
In reply to Post #19
Great shout,I'll try and contact him.🖖
Great shout,I'll try and contact him.🖖
In reply to Post #17
Seeing Pete Mohan turn up on your lake was a nightmare back in the day. He was reputed to be sending numerous fish on long holidays to new waters
Seeing Pete Mohan turn up on your lake was a nightmare back in the day. He was reputed to be sending numerous fish on long holidays to new waters
In reply to Post #21
That's what my old mate,Egloskerry Tom told me when I was much younger...four waters in west Devon,come to mind,staightaway...,Jeff Rowe country...!!!!!!!!
That's what my old mate,Egloskerry Tom told me when I was much younger...four waters in west Devon,come to mind,staightaway...,Jeff Rowe country...!!!!!!!!
In reply to Post #18
Great stuff Wandle. I would love to see some of those pictures if you are able to post them on here. The redmire stocking was the greatest of them all. The greatest batch of fish imaginable. I would love to see some of their progeny.
Great stuff Wandle. I would love to see some of those pictures if you are able to post them on here. The redmire stocking was the greatest of them all. The greatest batch of fish imaginable. I would love to see some of their progeny.
In reply to Post #23
You may be disappointed.
You may be disappointed.
In reply to Post #24
In what respect?
In what respect?
In reply to Post #7
I can remember reading about Dave Plummer buying some Redmire fish and stocking them into Taverham Mills and the Costessey Pits.
Some of the Taverham fish I caught were real lookers, fully scaleds, proper linears.
I can remember reading about Dave Plummer buying some Redmire fish and stocking them into Taverham Mills and the Costessey Pits.
Some of the Taverham fish I caught were real lookers, fully scaleds, proper linears.
In reply to Post #24
If you consider how many places received his fish, how many went on to become the sought after lookers? How many of these went on to spawn successfully?
Having researched his stockings in traveling distance of me only three still hold a handful of originals, non have gone on to reproduce successfully, some have cross bred as carp fishing became popular these places introduced new stock to satisfy the people fishing them, often at the cost of the originals.
If you consider how many places received his fish, how many went on to become the sought after lookers? How many of these went on to spawn successfully?
Having researched his stockings in traveling distance of me only three still hold a handful of originals, non have gone on to reproduce successfully, some have cross bred as carp fishing became popular these places introduced new stock to satisfy the people fishing them, often at the cost of the originals.
In reply to Post #19
Chris Ball doesn't have the Leney records. They belong to Chris Yates and are currently here at home, on loan to me...
Chris Ball doesn't have the Leney records. They belong to Chris Yates and are currently here at home, on loan to me...
In reply to Post #28
They belong to Chris Yates and are currently here at home, on loan to me...
A very nice bit of Reading for you Skeff
They belong to Chris Yates and are currently here at home, on loan to me...
A very nice bit of Reading for you Skeff
In reply to Post #28
I know they belong to Chris Yates, some time ago I spoke to Chris Ball at an event and he had them there, he has quoted from them so assumed he still had them.
I know they belong to Chris Yates, some time ago I spoke to Chris Ball at an event and he had them there, he has quoted from them so assumed he still had them.