In reply to Post #15
I'm the same, never bother soaking it
I'm the same, never bother soaking it
In reply to Post #14
Yes it's fine. It's respooling btw
Yes it's fine. It's respooling btw
In reply to Post #14
Wind it in using tension as well. Hold a wet cloth on the blank with the line passing through.
Wind it in using tension as well. Hold a wet cloth on the blank with the line passing through.
In reply to Post #18
On the blank?
On the blank?
In reply to Post #18
I don't bother, I just adjust the spooler to suit
I don't bother, I just adjust the spooler to suit
In reply to Post #1
Just get yourself a M6 Bolt a couple of inches longer than your Spool, large 6mm Mudguard /penny washer placed one each side of your spool of line, then a relatively weak compression spring another washer, then a M6 Nyloc Nut.
Put your “Spindle” in a vice; adjust the Nyloc Nut to tension the spring to add enough tension so the spool will stop dead if you stop winding the Reel Handle.
By using this set up you are totally guaranteed exactly the same tension on the line you're loading from start to finish.
Don't worry about coming off the top or off the bottom of the Spool of line, as all line is loaded with zero twist from being spooled at the factory. BUT make sure your Reel Clutch is tight, as your Rotor will add one twist per revolution (And there's nothing anyone on the planet can do to stop that) that's the design of fixed spool Reels.
I've used the same M6 Spindle for over 30 years to load line.
Just get yourself a M6 Bolt a couple of inches longer than your Spool, large 6mm Mudguard /penny washer placed one each side of your spool of line, then a relatively weak compression spring another washer, then a M6 Nyloc Nut.
Put your “Spindle” in a vice; adjust the Nyloc Nut to tension the spring to add enough tension so the spool will stop dead if you stop winding the Reel Handle.
By using this set up you are totally guaranteed exactly the same tension on the line you're loading from start to finish.
Don't worry about coming off the top or off the bottom of the Spool of line, as all line is loaded with zero twist from being spooled at the factory. BUT make sure your Reel Clutch is tight, as your Rotor will add one twist per revolution (And there's nothing anyone on the planet can do to stop that) that's the design of fixed spool Reels.
I've used the same M6 Spindle for over 30 years to load line.
In reply to Post #1
Shimano Technium not a bad choice, however as with all lines don't add warm/hot water to the mix you will get a better
line lay with cold water, if anyone gave any consideration to what even a tepid water temp would do to against a cold temp honestly simple physics
Shimano Technium not a bad choice, however as with all lines don't add warm/hot water to the mix you will get a better
line lay with cold water, if anyone gave any consideration to what even a tepid water temp would do to against a cold temp honestly simple physics
I spooled up my SSS2600s with 10lb Hydro-tuf following the side on method in link below.
Tried a few lines and you know with small spools when there may be trouble ahead so 'as recommended'
Loading line the right way ™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q9aDF8fXRA
Had to turn the bulk spool over.and again and again.
Been really careful, backwound instead playing of off the clutch-- I was given a good beating hard on the clutch by a mid 20 the other day that was heading into some snags but otherwise, QDs set firm and no adjusting the hangers off the clutch.
But in 6 productive sessions it's gone from unruly new line settling in to time to strip off.
I've had slack line kinking up in the water and bird nests around the spools.
So back to the 'old' method today, enough on the spool for one more try then time to buy some GT-80
How to load mono ™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cWWGPOki8k
Tried a few lines and you know with small spools when there may be trouble ahead so 'as recommended'
Loading line the right way ™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q9aDF8fXRA
Had to turn the bulk spool over.and again and again.
Been really careful, backwound instead playing of off the clutch-- I was given a good beating hard on the clutch by a mid 20 the other day that was heading into some snags but otherwise, QDs set firm and no adjusting the hangers off the clutch.
But in 6 productive sessions it's gone from unruly new line settling in to time to strip off.
I've had slack line kinking up in the water and bird nests around the spools.
So back to the 'old' method today, enough on the spool for one more try then time to buy some GT-80
How to load mono ™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cWWGPOki8k
In reply to Post #23
That gardner video method is just trial and error, he is flipping the spool to try and solve the line twist issue, as you should if its twisting up, but he isnt showing a definitive method...
If you check after 30-40yds you can see if twist is starting to build up.
I have used the esp method on esp syncro and had no problems, but different line suppliers will possibly have had their spools loaded in different ways, so you do always have to test it.
LINKY POO™ https://youtu.be/_cWWGPOki8k?si=LAUZgWvE8JbO5lvt

That gardner video method is just trial and error, he is flipping the spool to try and solve the line twist issue, as you should if its twisting up, but he isnt showing a definitive method...
If you check after 30-40yds you can see if twist is starting to build up.
I have used the esp method on esp syncro and had no problems, but different line suppliers will possibly have had their spools loaded in different ways, so you do always have to test it.
LINKY POO™ https://youtu.be/_cWWGPOki8k?si=LAUZgWvE8JbO5lvt

In reply to Post #24
yeah, I just tried both again off the either side caused instant twist within 20m.
I used an old tupperware cereal container, I knew there was a reason I didn't bin it (my excuse) with a delrin dowel through the sides.
re-spooling may be a regular occurence, I've been told that there are a 'few' mussels- noticed a handfull of swims with shells on the bank.
No line damage but I have a spool of 12lb Hyro-tow rope..might be the limit for 2600s.
I'm determnined to keep the skinny 2.25 rods and compact reel set up. 42" net aside i can keep up the pretence that I'm fishing for tench
yeah, I just tried both again off the either side caused instant twist within 20m.
I used an old tupperware cereal container, I knew there was a reason I didn't bin it (my excuse) with a delrin dowel through the sides.
re-spooling may be a regular occurence, I've been told that there are a 'few' mussels- noticed a handfull of swims with shells on the bank.
No line damage but I have a spool of 12lb Hyro-tow rope..might be the limit for 2600s.
I'm determnined to keep the skinny 2.25 rods and compact reel set up. 42" net aside i can keep up the pretence that I'm fishing for tench
I also think a lot of folk confuse line twist with memory. Load a line wet and it behaves totally differently to dry ime. I'm using ESP Syncro XT and loaded it on my big pits wet, no complaints, loaded it dry on my 4000 bait runner and it was exploding off the reel at 1st. It's not a line or reel problem, it just needs wetting and a few casts out.
To me it's a wierd problem. Surely the line should be supplied on the most similar sized spool to people's reels, supplying it on over or under sized spools is asking for issues either way.
To me it's a wierd problem. Surely the line should be supplied on the most similar sized spool to people's reels, supplying it on over or under sized spools is asking for issues either way.
In reply to Post #26
Memory I can deal with- well accept it or not, a few casts and hopefully a fish or two to stretch the line will sort it out.
Foot long twists before I can get the back lead on are defintely not acceptable.
Larger diameter spools are fine, whether they are bulk spools or line shots they offer the least amount of memory irresprctive of the reel size.
I can remember loading Mitchell 300-Ss with 8-10lb Sensor and Big Game
By the time you got half way into those spools a recast at midnight was almost guaranteed to end in a bird nest
Memory I can deal with- well accept it or not, a few casts and hopefully a fish or two to stretch the line will sort it out.
Foot long twists before I can get the back lead on are defintely not acceptable.
Larger diameter spools are fine, whether they are bulk spools or line shots they offer the least amount of memory irresprctive of the reel size.
I can remember loading Mitchell 300-Ss with 8-10lb Sensor and Big Game
By the time you got half way into those spools a recast at midnight was almost guaranteed to end in a bird nest
Still do the spool between the toes on a pencil and a tea towel myself, no bother, recently advanced to a wooden spoon
In reply to Post #1
A hammer will spoil a reel fairly quickly
A hammer will spoil a reel fairly quickly
In reply to Post #13
I'd agree with this. I used to load GT HD label up without issues. However, at the weekend when loading again, it was going on twisted using this method. Turned the spool on it's side, off a pencil and it went on beautifully. Gardner may have changed their spooling method, who knows, but it pays to be vigilant as you're loading and change accordingly.
I'd agree with this. I used to load GT HD label up without issues. However, at the weekend when loading again, it was going on twisted using this method. Turned the spool on it's side, off a pencil and it went on beautifully. Gardner may have changed their spooling method, who knows, but it pays to be vigilant as you're loading and change accordingly.