Seeing some of the vids from last night it looks to me like them dumb ass football hooligans causing trouble and not the “far right” the MSM want people to believe.......
In reply to Post #269
Nobody seems to mention the black lads and Sikh lads that are amongst demo protesting about the issues around immigration. The media can't handle that one.
Nobody seems to mention the black lads and Sikh lads that are amongst demo protesting about the issues around immigration. The media can't handle that one.
In reply to Post #272
Doesn't matter what we say or do we are far right 😂
https://youtu.be/LsbRrTULpgA?si=5D6gvGOhs6AfxajE
Doesn't matter what we say or do we are far right 😂
https://youtu.be/LsbRrTULpgA?si=5D6gvGOhs6AfxajE
I've not bothered reading most of this post, but Mal, you make me laugh. The Gary Lineker of CarpForum. In the first 50 so posts of this thread you have had ZERO useful comeback to anything.
Typical looney left. Play the racist cared and then as soon as someone calls you out on it the swearing started. At that point you had lost the argument, not that you made ANY ground in the first place.
"I'm all right jack, let everyone else suffer"
I am all for helping people out, but let's look at some facts here...Islamists think their way of life is right. They think they are the good guys. That doesn't bother me, Christians think they are the good guys, as do Sikh and so on and so forth.
However, to Islamists we are the infidel. We are to be slaughtered or subjugated.
Even these supposed 'far right' groups AREN'T trying to slaughter or subjugate anyone...they're trying to stop it happening (because if you read the news it's happening more and more).
Yes, some of the members of these protests are dick head drunken football louts, I am not defending them...they're almost as bad as 'the murder hungry culture', but not quite so bad....they just throw cans of Stella, they don't run around with machetes hacking at each other.
All governments are useless, so this isn't a Tory/Labour/Reform thing. They only serve themselves and try to retain power.
Yes, the rich are getting richer. How do they do that? By causing division, getting us fighting amongst ourselves and in the background they are taxing us to death for no benefit to us.
I would rather the tax was spent on people who have lived here and paid into the system all their lives. Why should my parents, after 40 or 50 years of paying tax have to wait a year plus to get treatment? Why should someone who rocks up at Dover in a boat be given that money? They're not fleeing a war. If they are then they're cowards, it would be their job to fight and let the women and children seek safety and freedom.
It's all an absolute nonsense....but the weak touchy feely looney left (not normal left, the looney left who defend this stupidity)
Sitting there feeling nice and safe, not giving a flying foofar about poorer people living in communities where they can't feel safe.
Anyone with a brain can see the future, Shariah law with women stuck indoors and no rights. I can't wait to see their tear stained faces as they realise what their virtue signalling bull**** got them...rape and slavery.
So let's get ready for the lefty bullshine, pick one or two words, or maybe a sentence out of that...and try to make the WHOLE rant irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant.
People who care have witnessed this on the news, and lets face it, the news is lefty leaning...so we're not even seeing the whole problem.
English Patriots are NOT anti-immigration. We are a welcoming people....which is why the 'good' ones want to move/live here and why the 'bad' ones know they can take the piss and get away with it.
If we're so bad why do they all want to come here? See if any lefties can answer that simple question first...
Typical looney left. Play the racist cared and then as soon as someone calls you out on it the swearing started. At that point you had lost the argument, not that you made ANY ground in the first place.
"I'm all right jack, let everyone else suffer"
I am all for helping people out, but let's look at some facts here...Islamists think their way of life is right. They think they are the good guys. That doesn't bother me, Christians think they are the good guys, as do Sikh and so on and so forth.
However, to Islamists we are the infidel. We are to be slaughtered or subjugated.
Even these supposed 'far right' groups AREN'T trying to slaughter or subjugate anyone...they're trying to stop it happening (because if you read the news it's happening more and more).
Yes, some of the members of these protests are dick head drunken football louts, I am not defending them...they're almost as bad as 'the murder hungry culture', but not quite so bad....they just throw cans of Stella, they don't run around with machetes hacking at each other.
All governments are useless, so this isn't a Tory/Labour/Reform thing. They only serve themselves and try to retain power.
Yes, the rich are getting richer. How do they do that? By causing division, getting us fighting amongst ourselves and in the background they are taxing us to death for no benefit to us.
I would rather the tax was spent on people who have lived here and paid into the system all their lives. Why should my parents, after 40 or 50 years of paying tax have to wait a year plus to get treatment? Why should someone who rocks up at Dover in a boat be given that money? They're not fleeing a war. If they are then they're cowards, it would be their job to fight and let the women and children seek safety and freedom.
It's all an absolute nonsense....but the weak touchy feely looney left (not normal left, the looney left who defend this stupidity)
Sitting there feeling nice and safe, not giving a flying foofar about poorer people living in communities where they can't feel safe.
Anyone with a brain can see the future, Shariah law with women stuck indoors and no rights. I can't wait to see their tear stained faces as they realise what their virtue signalling bull**** got them...rape and slavery.
So let's get ready for the lefty bullshine, pick one or two words, or maybe a sentence out of that...and try to make the WHOLE rant irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant.
People who care have witnessed this on the news, and lets face it, the news is lefty leaning...so we're not even seeing the whole problem.
English Patriots are NOT anti-immigration. We are a welcoming people....which is why the 'good' ones want to move/live here and why the 'bad' ones know they can take the piss and get away with it.
If we're so bad why do they all want to come here? See if any lefties can answer that simple question first...
In reply to Post #274
English Patriots are NOT anti-immigration. We are a welcoming people
I think you raise a very valid point there. Why would we, anybody who genuinely wanted support because they were being genuinely persecuted in their country we would support, we have historically. I, as the majority that I talk to and read about, I am sick to the back teeth of all these free loaders rolling up for an easy ride.
Heres where I will get called a racist because I am proud to be British. I am very fortune to live in this great country. This country has been shaped by our for fathers, historically and our heritage whether right or wrong, it's what they did as a nation for us and I respect that because it has given me a good quality of life because I am fortunate to live her. I don't want anybody rolling up from other country's sponging what's ours or what was created for us, our way of life, the same as others wouldn't in their countries, it's disrespectful. You have to work for what you get, it's a land of opportunity, that's our culture, not just choose to rock up here because you might get a free ride. People want to come here for one reason, an easy life with benefits
Said it before, anybody who is in the system and has been a tax payer or their parents have should be entitled to all benefits, if you roll up here you should get virtually nothing until you have made a contribution and then you should get incremental increases, unless it's by exception as previously mentioned. It's got to the point it's one big piss take and that's what is grinding people, it's a free for all
Daughters just told me, on social media they are all rioting outside a local holiday in because it's full of migrants, it's not the migrants faults but I can see why it grinds people. There are a LOT of hotels around me that are full of migrants and they are killing it (£) but it's also killing the tax payer. People can see this and it's just another percent of frustration. Something will have to give because it is not going away, it's quite the opposite
English Patriots are NOT anti-immigration. We are a welcoming people
I think you raise a very valid point there. Why would we, anybody who genuinely wanted support because they were being genuinely persecuted in their country we would support, we have historically. I, as the majority that I talk to and read about, I am sick to the back teeth of all these free loaders rolling up for an easy ride.
Heres where I will get called a racist because I am proud to be British. I am very fortune to live in this great country. This country has been shaped by our for fathers, historically and our heritage whether right or wrong, it's what they did as a nation for us and I respect that because it has given me a good quality of life because I am fortunate to live her. I don't want anybody rolling up from other country's sponging what's ours or what was created for us, our way of life, the same as others wouldn't in their countries, it's disrespectful. You have to work for what you get, it's a land of opportunity, that's our culture, not just choose to rock up here because you might get a free ride. People want to come here for one reason, an easy life with benefits
Said it before, anybody who is in the system and has been a tax payer or their parents have should be entitled to all benefits, if you roll up here you should get virtually nothing until you have made a contribution and then you should get incremental increases, unless it's by exception as previously mentioned. It's got to the point it's one big piss take and that's what is grinding people, it's a free for all
Daughters just told me, on social media they are all rioting outside a local holiday in because it's full of migrants, it's not the migrants faults but I can see why it grinds people. There are a LOT of hotels around me that are full of migrants and they are killing it (£) but it's also killing the tax payer. People can see this and it's just another percent of frustration. Something will have to give because it is not going away, it's quite the opposite
In reply to Post #275
Can I ask the left wing pro immigration apologists on this platform what are the numbers regarding the population where you will draw the line before it affects peoples general quality of life?( that's if it hasn't already been reached of course ) there must be an accepted limit to how many people this and many other countries can comfortably cope with. And it's not a simple case of building more housing, hospitals, schools etc....
The racism issue is not going away, it's been there for decades and will continue to fester but I kind of get sick of hearing about the ‘far right', I read somewhere recently about the countryside being racist, and not diverse enough, what the f**k is that about? There is nothing stopping people of all colours, races and cultures from driving out into and spending time in the countryside yet it is ‘too white', in fact there was an episode recently where there was conflict at a beauty spot between groups of non indigenous peoples, now I'm sure things like this happen between people that are described as white Anglo Saxon but I spend a lot of time in the countryside and I have to say I don't see it.
Last Wednesday there was a parade through central London organised by the Muslim community that virtually shut down the West End, with little or no notice it just happened, no riot cops appeared there as there often are for what people would describe as patriotic marches, now I condemn the idiots that do cause trouble but having riot cops on standby is often incendiary and can provoke some of these idiots into causing trouble, strangely I never see these squads of riot cops attempting to kettle pro Palestinian marches, which are almost a weekly occurance now since last October
What is happening now is that genuine people have had enough and trouble makers are jumping on the bandwagon but people have had enough and something has to be done, a sponge can only soak up so much water before it's saturated
I think multiculturism has done a lot for this country but there has to be a limit, even some migrants to this country who have worked hard and made good lives here can see that!
Can I ask the left wing pro immigration apologists on this platform what are the numbers regarding the population where you will draw the line before it affects peoples general quality of life?( that's if it hasn't already been reached of course ) there must be an accepted limit to how many people this and many other countries can comfortably cope with. And it's not a simple case of building more housing, hospitals, schools etc....
The racism issue is not going away, it's been there for decades and will continue to fester but I kind of get sick of hearing about the ‘far right', I read somewhere recently about the countryside being racist, and not diverse enough, what the f**k is that about? There is nothing stopping people of all colours, races and cultures from driving out into and spending time in the countryside yet it is ‘too white', in fact there was an episode recently where there was conflict at a beauty spot between groups of non indigenous peoples, now I'm sure things like this happen between people that are described as white Anglo Saxon but I spend a lot of time in the countryside and I have to say I don't see it.
Last Wednesday there was a parade through central London organised by the Muslim community that virtually shut down the West End, with little or no notice it just happened, no riot cops appeared there as there often are for what people would describe as patriotic marches, now I condemn the idiots that do cause trouble but having riot cops on standby is often incendiary and can provoke some of these idiots into causing trouble, strangely I never see these squads of riot cops attempting to kettle pro Palestinian marches, which are almost a weekly occurance now since last October
What is happening now is that genuine people have had enough and trouble makers are jumping on the bandwagon but people have had enough and something has to be done, a sponge can only soak up so much water before it's saturated
I think multiculturism has done a lot for this country but there has to be a limit, even some migrants to this country who have worked hard and made good lives here can see that!
In reply to Post #276
What is happening now is that genuine people have had enough and trouble makers are jumping on the bandwagon but people have had enough and something has to be done, a sponge can only soak up so much water before it's saturated
Similar thought to me Henry. Sadly at the moment the mongs are trying to capitalise on the recent events and create a divide. Let's hope the majority can see through this and we makes some useful changes to our policies, and quickly, moving forward, I can see no other way forward other than all these mongs stirring up hatred, causing criminal damage and hurting a lot of innocent people along the way. It has the potential to turn very very nasty if nothing gets addressed soon. As usual, left too late and not addressed when it should have been, it is not a sustainable situation and that is throughout Europe too
What is happening now is that genuine people have had enough and trouble makers are jumping on the bandwagon but people have had enough and something has to be done, a sponge can only soak up so much water before it's saturated
Similar thought to me Henry. Sadly at the moment the mongs are trying to capitalise on the recent events and create a divide. Let's hope the majority can see through this and we makes some useful changes to our policies, and quickly, moving forward, I can see no other way forward other than all these mongs stirring up hatred, causing criminal damage and hurting a lot of innocent people along the way. It has the potential to turn very very nasty if nothing gets addressed soon. As usual, left too late and not addressed when it should have been, it is not a sustainable situation and that is throughout Europe too
In reply to Post #274
Oh dear
Can you point to where the Internet words hurt you?
Oh dear
Can you point to where the Internet words hurt you?
In reply to Post #277
Well Chris I think it's time for some honest politics which I am sure we won't get with the incumbent Labour government, I think flip flop Starmer who says what he thinks will make him popular will soon start to realise its harder to govern than to criticise from the opposition benches, promises of building 1.5 million homes a year and 40,000 extra GP appointments a week are as much Blarney as BoJo's promise of building 40 hospitals and built on sand, and I have to say that the usually gobby DP Rayner is conspicuous by her absence and lack of comments, odd that🤔
Honest politics aren't popular but I think unless we get some soon then the house is going to get burnt down, metaphorically speaking hopefully!
It's kind of strange though that I read an article twenty or so years ago that stuck with me that predicted mass migration from poorer war ridden unviably economic states/ countries will cause huge problems for Western nations, I wish I had kept it to refer to but in an ever over populated world it appears to be coming true!
I'm glad I'm in my twilight years, I wouldn't want to be young and starting out now, it's like chucking a handful of feed to a coup of chickens...some get a lot more than others.
Well Chris I think it's time for some honest politics which I am sure we won't get with the incumbent Labour government, I think flip flop Starmer who says what he thinks will make him popular will soon start to realise its harder to govern than to criticise from the opposition benches, promises of building 1.5 million homes a year and 40,000 extra GP appointments a week are as much Blarney as BoJo's promise of building 40 hospitals and built on sand, and I have to say that the usually gobby DP Rayner is conspicuous by her absence and lack of comments, odd that🤔
Honest politics aren't popular but I think unless we get some soon then the house is going to get burnt down, metaphorically speaking hopefully!
It's kind of strange though that I read an article twenty or so years ago that stuck with me that predicted mass migration from poorer war ridden unviably economic states/ countries will cause huge problems for Western nations, I wish I had kept it to refer to but in an ever over populated world it appears to be coming true!
I'm glad I'm in my twilight years, I wouldn't want to be young and starting out now, it's like chucking a handful of feed to a coup of chickens...some get a lot more than others.
In reply to Post #279
harder to govern than to criticise from the opposition benches
So true
I think there are some challenges ahead and this is one that needs to take a priority. I don't really do politics but in my area it's red for life. The only difference now is that Labour, hint in the name, does not look out for the working man, it's working to get every scrounger in the game. Things won't add up!
harder to govern than to criticise from the opposition benches
So true
I think there are some challenges ahead and this is one that needs to take a priority. I don't really do politics but in my area it's red for life. The only difference now is that Labour, hint in the name, does not look out for the working man, it's working to get every scrounger in the game. Things won't add up!
In reply to Post #273
Far right?
Got to love a bit of Daniel the Spaniel.
https://youtu.be/RcWk640Rjq0?si=wqVHd0TraUD0nCjN
Far right?
Got to love a bit of Daniel the Spaniel.
https://youtu.be/RcWk640Rjq0?si=wqVHd0TraUD0nCjN
In reply to Post #278
See post 24 👍
See post 24 👍
So whilst one leader is apparently sunning himself in Cyprus, another had to be told to cancel his holiday in light of what's going on...,
I think Liz Truss's short tenure might have competition....
I think Liz Truss's short tenure might have competition....
#274. What a top post that is.
It's great that this thread is still going and people are allowed to have a grown up discussion on what is a very touchy subject. How the hell are we supposed to solve the problem if society is not allowed to debate it. Labeling everyone as racist and far right for having the balls to challenge the narrative is just so lazy.
Whenever you see a clip on the news about a riot they only ever show you what's kicking off on the front line. They never show you the hundreds of people behind them. The Dads, Mums, Kids, Grannies, Grandad's. The Disabled in wheelchairs or on crutches. The people of different colours and faiths. All absolutely furious at what's gone/going on. And the Media and bleeding heart left brand them all as racist and far right. I'm sick to the back teeth of this far right *****. Yes you've got the hooligan element you always will but so have the left when they kick off ( Antifa ) yet nowt gets said then does it?
The media claim the FL have highjacked the tragedy in Southport. Bo****ks! Southport was the last straw. There was always going to be a tipping point and this is it. How many warnings do these people need? How many more of our kids are to be murdered or raped. How many more tragedies do the people of this country have to suffer at the hands of Islamists before the left and the powers that be get their heads out of the sand and wake up. Muslims themselves are not the problem. Radical Islam is! It is not and never will be compatible with western values. They hate you, me and everyone in the west. How the hell we deal with it is anyone's guess.
Wether you like Mr Robinson or not, one thing is for sure he hasn't got blood on his hands. Certain individuals on here, the left, Starmer, Cooper, and all the other clowns that welcome with open arms this scum into the country that then go on to either commit acts of terrorism or radicalize people into doing so, have.
Just one stat to mull over.
In the last 20 years 94 people in this country have been murdered by members of radical Islam.
Zero Muslims have been killed by the so called far right.
It's great that this thread is still going and people are allowed to have a grown up discussion on what is a very touchy subject. How the hell are we supposed to solve the problem if society is not allowed to debate it. Labeling everyone as racist and far right for having the balls to challenge the narrative is just so lazy.
Whenever you see a clip on the news about a riot they only ever show you what's kicking off on the front line. They never show you the hundreds of people behind them. The Dads, Mums, Kids, Grannies, Grandad's. The Disabled in wheelchairs or on crutches. The people of different colours and faiths. All absolutely furious at what's gone/going on. And the Media and bleeding heart left brand them all as racist and far right. I'm sick to the back teeth of this far right *****. Yes you've got the hooligan element you always will but so have the left when they kick off ( Antifa ) yet nowt gets said then does it?
The media claim the FL have highjacked the tragedy in Southport. Bo****ks! Southport was the last straw. There was always going to be a tipping point and this is it. How many warnings do these people need? How many more of our kids are to be murdered or raped. How many more tragedies do the people of this country have to suffer at the hands of Islamists before the left and the powers that be get their heads out of the sand and wake up. Muslims themselves are not the problem. Radical Islam is! It is not and never will be compatible with western values. They hate you, me and everyone in the west. How the hell we deal with it is anyone's guess.
Wether you like Mr Robinson or not, one thing is for sure he hasn't got blood on his hands. Certain individuals on here, the left, Starmer, Cooper, and all the other clowns that welcome with open arms this scum into the country that then go on to either commit acts of terrorism or radicalize people into doing so, have.
Just one stat to mull over.
In the last 20 years 94 people in this country have been murdered by members of radical Islam.
Zero Muslims have been killed by the so called far right.
In reply to Post #284
👍spot on mate
👍spot on mate