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After something of a discussion and education about this with Ken, I am now a firm believer and fully support what he has to say.
Okay statistically one might feel that one is safe, but some NHS links just to refresh the memory, as it can kill:
Personal Protection Measures here
And if you think you might have symptoms, the link below gives some official guidance. The reality, as i'm sure judging by the life changing experiences of others, is far worse.
Treatment here
Hopefully we can kick off the discussion with rats and what we are going to do about them soon, as I hope there are many more like me, who feel they are a blight and risk we could do without. Perhaps one for another day as there are many pressing issues relating to Carp predation, but I'll be taking home all my rubbish, cleaning up not leaving anything for the rats on the bank like the vast majority of responsible anglers on here.
After something of a discussion and education about this with Ken, I am now a firm believer and fully support what he has to say.
Okay statistically one might feel that one is safe, but some NHS links just to refresh the memory, as it can kill:
Personal Protection Measures here
And if you think you might have symptoms, the link below gives some official guidance. The reality, as i'm sure judging by the life changing experiences of others, is far worse.
Treatment here
Hopefully we can kick off the discussion with rats and what we are going to do about them soon, as I hope there are many more like me, who feel they are a blight and risk we could do without. Perhaps one for another day as there are many pressing issues relating to Carp predation, but I'll be taking home all my rubbish, cleaning up not leaving anything for the rats on the bank like the vast majority of responsible anglers on here.
Please be careful guys. My husband is currently in hospital on life support and renal failure. His symptoms last Tuesday was a headache that turned into the shivers. I thought he was coming down with man flu, Wednesday he stayed in bed all day and the same Thursday. Friday I left him at home and went out with the kids. Got back at around 4ish and he was struggling to breath. Took him the local A&E and well his now in ICU. IT has not been confirmed yet as apparently it can take 10 days for the tests to be confirmed.
Also a reminder to take out insurance and not just think your EHIC card will be ok. If i didnt have a mutuelle , even with having french Carte vital my bill would be in the thousands aleady.
Also a reminder to take out insurance and not just think your EHIC card will be ok. If i didnt have a mutuelle , even with having french Carte vital my bill would be in the thousands aleady.
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Pleased to here he is off intensive care ..............wishing him a speedy recovery
Pleased to here he is off intensive care ..............wishing him a speedy recovery
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In reply to Post #1
Very helpfull thread now about to order a few bottles of gel
Very helpfull thread now about to order a few bottles of gel
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Ive just been told today by my brother that a mate of mine has been diagnosed with Weils disease and he does not fish.
Hes a painter and decorator and has been working in a mansion in Manchester Sq, London. All his tools ect are left in the basement of the place.
He felt unwell sometime ago, went to the doctor who sent him for tests and they couldnt find anything wrong.
Eventually they sent him to a hospital to have a liver biop and blood tests.After 5/6 weeks he got the results back and not what he was expecting at all. They have confirmed that it is Weils disease. My brother went to finish the job off for him went into the basement and the whole worktop, table, draining board were covered in rats droppings cups and mugs the same even over the top of the kettle.There was a dead rat behind a chair and another behind a wooden box. My brother phoned his wife and told her what he had just seen in the basement.She phoned his doctor and the hospital and told them what my brother had seen and the doctor said it was almost certainly from there .When the owners were told what the diagnosis was with my mate their first reply was, OH I SUPPOSE HE WANTS TO SUE US NOW THEN DOES HE ? Nice . Hes quite literally fighting for his life and these millionaires/billionaires are worried about being sued.It really does go to show how careful you should be when fishing /working wherever rats are. He really is OCD about cleanliness aswell
Ive just been told today by my brother that a mate of mine has been diagnosed with Weils disease and he does not fish.
Hes a painter and decorator and has been working in a mansion in Manchester Sq, London. All his tools ect are left in the basement of the place.
He felt unwell sometime ago, went to the doctor who sent him for tests and they couldnt find anything wrong.
Eventually they sent him to a hospital to have a liver biop and blood tests.After 5/6 weeks he got the results back and not what he was expecting at all. They have confirmed that it is Weils disease. My brother went to finish the job off for him went into the basement and the whole worktop, table, draining board were covered in rats droppings cups and mugs the same even over the top of the kettle.There was a dead rat behind a chair and another behind a wooden box. My brother phoned his wife and told her what he had just seen in the basement.She phoned his doctor and the hospital and told them what my brother had seen and the doctor said it was almost certainly from there .When the owners were told what the diagnosis was with my mate their first reply was, OH I SUPPOSE HE WANTS TO SUE US NOW THEN DOES HE ? Nice . Hes quite literally fighting for his life and these millionaires/billionaires are worried about being sued.It really does go to show how careful you should be when fishing /working wherever rats are. He really is OCD about cleanliness aswell
The tubs of Big Wipes that are found in builders merchants etc, are stated to protect against Weils disease. 
Just a quick bump to warn you all that thanks to the very mild winter rats are as active as ever so take all the necessary precautions. A very close fishing mate of mine has just been diagnosed with Weils Disease so be warned.
Ok being an ignorance is bliss angler until I read this yesterday (seen loads topping up kettles from lakes over the years but not me though as thought you had to drink lake water to get it WD, I thought I knew better) I must have ducked many bullets over the years, can you point me in the right direction? So when spodding I have always had two buckets, X1 for bait X1 with lake water for rinsing my hands in between casts 
yes I used antibacterial gel when finished but looks like I was kidding myself, I guess one quick dip in contaminated water and one unnoticed cut means you are in big trouble! So what is the solution? Can I boil lake water with a dedicated kettle for the job to kill WD for a rinse bucket or do I need to take more fresh water? The thought of this makes me feel ill
yes I used antibacterial gel when finished but looks like I was kidding myself, I guess one quick dip in contaminated water and one unnoticed cut means you are in big trouble! So what is the solution? Can I boil lake water with a dedicated kettle for the job to kill WD for a rinse bucket or do I need to take more fresh water? The thought of this makes me feel ill
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Just posted photos that are hosted by a decent host...NOT Photo****it!
Just posted photos that are hosted by a decent host...NOT Photo****it!
In reply to Post #1202
Must make you cringe Ken when you see people throwing buckets of water over their mates head while holding a fish! I know it does me.
One cut or graze and that's it - not a clever thing to do
Must make you cringe Ken when you see people throwing buckets of water over their mates head while holding a fish! I know it does me.
One cut or graze and that's it - not a clever thing to do
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Must make you cringe Ken when you see people throwing buckets of water over their mates head while holding a fish!
Indeed it does, mate!
Must make you cringe Ken when you see people throwing buckets of water over their mates head while holding a fish!
Indeed it does, mate!
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They say your never more than a few yards away from a rat,I remember fishing a particular swim at WVL in the distant past, called the "rat hole" it certainly lived up to its name, nobody would fish it, it was infested, they would chew through buckets, bags, even ate the cork from the rods if they could reach them,even the landing net wasn't safe, they would eat the mesh if you landed a fish in it. at that time I had many traps and I would set them all around the swim, one night I had 18 in quick succession, but they quickly learn to wait for a young inexperienced rat to spring the trap then steal the bait, if you leave it in the trap they will eat the dead one too.
I used to keep everything edible in the truck parked nearby.
I cringe when I see owners letting their dogs lick their faces, and most people who know me would strongly advise throwing a bucket of water over me would be unwise!
my old grandfather would say "a rat will sit on 10 stone of corn, eat an ounce, and pi$$ over the rest". we would surround rows of straw and wack them with sticks sometimes back then you might get 50 or more.
They say your never more than a few yards away from a rat,I remember fishing a particular swim at WVL in the distant past, called the "rat hole" it certainly lived up to its name, nobody would fish it, it was infested, they would chew through buckets, bags, even ate the cork from the rods if they could reach them,even the landing net wasn't safe, they would eat the mesh if you landed a fish in it. at that time I had many traps and I would set them all around the swim, one night I had 18 in quick succession, but they quickly learn to wait for a young inexperienced rat to spring the trap then steal the bait, if you leave it in the trap they will eat the dead one too.
I used to keep everything edible in the truck parked nearby.
I cringe when I see owners letting their dogs lick their faces, and most people who know me would strongly advise throwing a bucket of water over me would be unwise!
my old grandfather would say "a rat will sit on 10 stone of corn, eat an ounce, and pi$$ over the rest". we would surround rows of straw and wack them with sticks sometimes back then you might get 50 or more.
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Bump...For info purposes.
Bump...For info purposes.
Many thanks for the reminder Ken seeing the difference between the 2 photos of you is unbelievable it looks like 2 different people.
Be careful everyone
Be careful everyone