In reply to Post #207
I am sure he is referring to Calm Production Angling books, not the general book industry
I am sure he is referring to Calm Production Angling books, not the general book industry
In reply to Post #207
Calm have always been *****.
Calm have always been *****.
In reply to Post #212
Agreed
Agreed
In reply to Post #210
I do wonder how many copies that will be sold ? And how much he makes out of it?
I do wonder how many copies that will be sold ? And how much he makes out of it?
In reply to Post #214
I think it was Micky gray who said he had to front a huge amount of money to get the books done. I wonder how it works too.
I think it was Micky gray who said he had to front a huge amount of money to get the books done. I wonder how it works too.
In reply to Post #215
I don't remember all the details but Darrell Peck said that his deal was no money from the first x copies sold, then got paid an amount for the next quota, then a higher amount for the next quota..
It sounded like a smart way for the publisher to ensure that they cover costs for a poor seller and then splitting the profits of it is successful.
No idea if this is how most deals are done though. I assume that once someone has a couple of successful books they can drive a better deal.
I don't remember all the details but Darrell Peck said that his deal was no money from the first x copies sold, then got paid an amount for the next quota, then a higher amount for the next quota..
It sounded like a smart way for the publisher to ensure that they cover costs for a poor seller and then splitting the profits of it is successful.
No idea if this is how most deals are done though. I assume that once someone has a couple of successful books they can drive a better deal.
In reply to Post #214
There are a number of ways that books can be published:
You can fund the production yourself, doing everything yourself - you then get to keep the full sale price, less tax. Very few take this option.
You can enter into the sorts of deals described, where a publisher fronts the cost of production, and the author gets a share of the purchase price, usually small ( 5% - 10% ? ).
There is also the method used by Chris Yates a few years ago to fund his book The Lost Diary. Chris advertised what the book was going to include, and people paid upfront the cost of a copy of the book. Once a certain number were pledged (which were enough to cover the cost of production) the book was printed and copies distributed.
Popular authors can also command an advance to cover the cost of any research required in the production of the book, which again gets recovered by the publisher from the purchase price. This tends to only occur with top selling authors who will be selling shed loads of books. Despite the popularity of angling, its still a niche market with generally small readership.
Thousands of Terrys' books will be sold, possibly tens of thousands, and i'm guessing that might earn him tens of thousands of pounds ?
Who knows ...
There are a number of ways that books can be published:
You can fund the production yourself, doing everything yourself - you then get to keep the full sale price, less tax. Very few take this option.
You can enter into the sorts of deals described, where a publisher fronts the cost of production, and the author gets a share of the purchase price, usually small ( 5% - 10% ? ).
There is also the method used by Chris Yates a few years ago to fund his book The Lost Diary. Chris advertised what the book was going to include, and people paid upfront the cost of a copy of the book. Once a certain number were pledged (which were enough to cover the cost of production) the book was printed and copies distributed.
Popular authors can also command an advance to cover the cost of any research required in the production of the book, which again gets recovered by the publisher from the purchase price. This tends to only occur with top selling authors who will be selling shed loads of books. Despite the popularity of angling, its still a niche market with generally small readership.
Thousands of Terrys' books will be sold, possibly tens of thousands, and i'm guessing that might earn him tens of thousands of pounds ?
Who knows ...
A lot of fishing books have an initial run of 250-450 copies, very few have a print of 1000 +. Carp fishing demands a bigger print but writing books is no way to earn a living unless you are titivating bored housewives.
Amazon will publish your books and each copy sold is printed to order at big printer outfits. That way you get next to nothing for your work but your book is available and, should it become very desirable, a hard copy launch option can be taken up and you may claw back a few bob.
Let's face it, books are often just an ego trip and the money is a bonus.
Amazon will publish your books and each copy sold is printed to order at big printer outfits. That way you get next to nothing for your work but your book is available and, should it become very desirable, a hard copy launch option can be taken up and you may claw back a few bob.
Let's face it, books are often just an ego trip and the money is a bonus.
In reply to Post #218
The website is back up and working now but you have to create and verify an account before you can check out
The website is back up and working now but you have to create and verify an account before you can check out
In reply to Post #219
Let me check out as a quest, taken money from card but no confirmation of order email, let's hope it goes smoothly 🙈🙈🙈
Let me check out as a quest, taken money from card but no confirmation of order email, let's hope it goes smoothly 🙈🙈🙈
In reply to Post #220
I checked out as guest and got confirmation email
I checked out as guest and got confirmation email
In reply to Post #219
I did that the week before I ordered my book anyway, I assumed you had to have a account to order the book but seems not lol
I did that the week before I ordered my book anyway, I assumed you had to have a account to order the book but seems not lol
so you can go onto the Calm Prod site and create an account or just buy one and check out as a guest.
either way you pay £39.95
So why are idiots bidding over £75 on ebay for them ?
either way you pay £39.95
So why are idiots bidding over £75 on ebay for them ?
In reply to Post #223
God knows maybe they think they might get a signed one?
God knows maybe they think they might get a signed one?
In reply to Post #224
Yes I thought that but they are not advertised as signed
There are 3 on eBay now
Yes I thought that but they are not advertised as signed
There are 3 on eBay now