In reply to Post #210
No I'm not really a reader, but my english teacher Mr Derby loved Mark Twain so he was always on about him and his quotes and variants of these 2 have stuck with me since i was 16 so that's 41 years ago.
No I'm not really a reader, but my english teacher Mr Derby loved Mark Twain so he was always on about him and his quotes and variants of these 2 have stuck with me since i was 16 so that's 41 years ago.
In reply to Post #211
Right...
As someone who 'went down the rabbit hole' a few years ago, for a few years, spent hundreds of wasted hours watching and reading stuff (it's actually quite depressive to do this), I came to the conclusion that "Sh*t happens and there's nothing you can do about it"
Notice that ALL the things mentioned in this thread are AMERICAN.
I came across this video made in the 1980's which just explained it all. It's so very true, and it's genuine. Everything this bloke says (he's dead now...obviously, 1993) is now happening, even young Americans hate (they have been tricked) their own country, it's a social breakdown which is exactly what the Russians wanted, like pushing a punt out onto the water and then let the drift take it on it's path.
If you have a spare hour, and are into theories, I urge you to watch this....
Short - Yuri Bezmenov
Full - Yuri Bezmenov
Answers a lot of questions. Ideological Subversion.
Right...
As someone who 'went down the rabbit hole' a few years ago, for a few years, spent hundreds of wasted hours watching and reading stuff (it's actually quite depressive to do this), I came to the conclusion that "Sh*t happens and there's nothing you can do about it"
Notice that ALL the things mentioned in this thread are AMERICAN.
I came across this video made in the 1980's which just explained it all. It's so very true, and it's genuine. Everything this bloke says (he's dead now...obviously, 1993) is now happening, even young Americans hate (they have been tricked) their own country, it's a social breakdown which is exactly what the Russians wanted, like pushing a punt out onto the water and then let the drift take it on it's path.
If you have a spare hour, and are into theories, I urge you to watch this....
Short - Yuri Bezmenov
Full - Yuri Bezmenov
Answers a lot of questions. Ideological Subversion.
In reply to Post #212
Hey Not, remember those videos floating around at election time but only saw the short one. Anyway you've just reminded me - did Boris ever publish that Russian interference report? I expect it will be forgotten about now and won't see the light of day!
...and if you've been down the rabbit hole you should know the roots of a lot of stuff mentioned in the thread lead back to the UK and Israel, and that 'they' have no real allegiance to any nation state ☺
Hey Not, remember those videos floating around at election time but only saw the short one. Anyway you've just reminded me - did Boris ever publish that Russian interference report? I expect it will be forgotten about now and won't see the light of day!
...and if you've been down the rabbit hole you should know the roots of a lot of stuff mentioned in the thread lead back to the UK and Israel, and that 'they' have no real allegiance to any nation state ☺
In reply to Post #212
Excellent ......
Thank you for sharing that.
Excellent ......
Thank you for sharing that.
In reply to Post #213
The Russian 'job' was using companies like Cambridge Analytica, which they scraped loads of Facebook data. Chris Wylie (the bloke with the red hair), was a bit of an attention seeker, he tried to SELL the FB scraped data to EVERY political group, and no-one bought the data or used it. That's a fact, regardless of what the media say's. He then made his money by 'whistle blowing'.
Cambridge Analytica only had data that the users of FB had technically agreed to share, CA abused it by trying to monetize it.
The video I've posted is just to show that the Russians have used many techniques to break the social fabric of the USA, UK, Europe etc.
There's so many things they have done and are doing, and it wont stop until you see current generation British started to hate their own country and themselves as people. That's ultimately Russia's aim. what happens in America end's up happening here.
For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown. Their is/was no actual leader or HQ for BLM. However, the social media platforms lit up with hundreds of thousands of fake FB/Twitter profiles to create an argument.
The Russian's 'troll' FB/Twitter etc, creating one line arguments, which get's inevitably get's a response and creates FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). This is how they are doing it, right now, today. The video told us this 40 years ago.
The Russian 'job' was using companies like Cambridge Analytica, which they scraped loads of Facebook data. Chris Wylie (the bloke with the red hair), was a bit of an attention seeker, he tried to SELL the FB scraped data to EVERY political group, and no-one bought the data or used it. That's a fact, regardless of what the media say's. He then made his money by 'whistle blowing'.
Cambridge Analytica only had data that the users of FB had technically agreed to share, CA abused it by trying to monetize it.
The video I've posted is just to show that the Russians have used many techniques to break the social fabric of the USA, UK, Europe etc.
There's so many things they have done and are doing, and it wont stop until you see current generation British started to hate their own country and themselves as people. That's ultimately Russia's aim. what happens in America end's up happening here.
For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown. Their is/was no actual leader or HQ for BLM. However, the social media platforms lit up with hundreds of thousands of fake FB/Twitter profiles to create an argument.
The Russian's 'troll' FB/Twitter etc, creating one line arguments, which get's inevitably get's a response and creates FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). This is how they are doing it, right now, today. The video told us this 40 years ago.
In reply to Post #215
hmmm....
'For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown.'
I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to.
hmmm....
'For example, "Black Lives Matter" was created by a few Russians (on FB) to create White v Black violence and social breakdown.'
I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to.
Has anyone seen the anonymous leaks on twitter tonight? Trump a rapist and in the ring with Epstein, same as bill gates and Naomi Campbell. Diana murdered by royal family. Hacked Minneapolis police station and leaked all their details and passwords, hacked Chicago police radio and played F the police...
Also reports of the KKK becoming active again in parts of America.... civil war anyone?
Also reports of the KKK becoming active again in parts of America.... civil war anyone?
In reply to Post #216
"I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to."
You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to BLM.
Seriously you don't.
"I think there's plenty of examples of White on Black violence throughout U.S. history to explain that social breakdown. The russkies didn't create that... no need for them to."
You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to BLM.
Seriously you don't.
In reply to Post #218
You're deep in a hole of Russian destroying the world. I don't think the Russians did the whole slavery and oppression thing... black lives matter is a response to black people dying due to police using excessive force.
I really don't think you know much about American history or ideologies to understand what you're saying makes not a jot of sense.
You're deep in a hole of Russian destroying the world. I don't think the Russians did the whole slavery and oppression thing... black lives matter is a response to black people dying due to police using excessive force.
I really don't think you know much about American history or ideologies to understand what you're saying makes not a jot of sense.
In reply to Post #219
Sorry, you lost me at 'slavery'? Maybe it was too far for the black African slave masters to sell their 'wares'?
There's a netflix documentary about Facebook and Cambridge Analylitica, if you don't believe you should watch it. It's so very easy to create a 'group' and an algorithm to get traction even when it's fiction. It's called The Great Hack. They cover BLM and it's origins.
Understanding how algo's/AI/databases work is integral though to understanding how they do stuff like this, and working with Russian ex-hackers helps! :/
Sorry, you lost me at 'slavery'? Maybe it was too far for the black African slave masters to sell their 'wares'?
There's a netflix documentary about Facebook and Cambridge Analylitica, if you don't believe you should watch it. It's so very easy to create a 'group' and an algorithm to get traction even when it's fiction. It's called The Great Hack. They cover BLM and it's origins.
Understanding how algo's/AI/databases work is integral though to understanding how they do stuff like this, and working with Russian ex-hackers helps! :/
In reply to Post #220
I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.
A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media?
I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.
A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media?
In reply to Post #221
No, you said that, I didn't.
I quote you:
I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.
A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media
A guy was restrained (with extreme force, which was excessive and ended up being fatal), because he would have potentially murdered a pregnant woman.
What i'm saying is that people are being herded and getting disturbed emotionally by small groups of state funded 'hactivists', using things like FB, Twitter etc, because it's so easy to do.
Yesterday on my FB feed was a picture of a car being clamped that apparently belonged to an NHS nurse. Now all the comments were emotional, distressing, hateful etc (amplified by CV19). Turned out the picture was over a year old, but the comments didn't stop. Those people would have been left off kilter emotionally, which they would vent somehow (as that's how us emotionally charge humans work), to upset others around them or had a very crap day themselves.
And this is how it works.
No, you said that, I didn't.
I quote you:
I'm just saying your theory that Russia is the route cause behind every social, economical, political problem in the world is clearly not right.
A guy got murdered by an american police officer whilst 2 others did nothing about it, but that's because Russia hacked social media
A guy was restrained (with extreme force, which was excessive and ended up being fatal), because he would have potentially murdered a pregnant woman.
What i'm saying is that people are being herded and getting disturbed emotionally by small groups of state funded 'hactivists', using things like FB, Twitter etc, because it's so easy to do.
Yesterday on my FB feed was a picture of a car being clamped that apparently belonged to an NHS nurse. Now all the comments were emotional, distressing, hateful etc (amplified by CV19). Turned out the picture was over a year old, but the comments didn't stop. Those people would have been left off kilter emotionally, which they would vent somehow (as that's how us emotionally charge humans work), to upset others around them or had a very crap day themselves.
And this is how it works.
In reply to Post #221
Here's a recent story from the Independent about how it works:
Facebook article
“Our algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness,” a 2018 presentation warned, warning that if action was not taken Facebook would provide users “more and more divisive content in an effort to gain user attention & increase time on the platform.”
Worth a read.
Here's a recent story from the Independent about how it works:
Facebook article
“Our algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness,” a 2018 presentation warned, warning that if action was not taken Facebook would provide users “more and more divisive content in an effort to gain user attention & increase time on the platform.”
Worth a read.
In reply to Post #221
You could call it murder but to me that would be he intended to end his life.
Obviously I wasn't there but my guess was that man assisted arrest, was grappled to the floor and a foot placed on his neck. The man shouted he couldn't breath but people being arrested often claim things like that you only have to watch our own Police, Camera Action type of programmes to know that. The big unfortunate difference in this case he wasn't lying and tragically he died. The 2 other coppers couldn't have realised the severity of the situation as I don't believe they would have actually stood there and allow the man to die in front of them
You could call it murder but to me that would be he intended to end his life.
Obviously I wasn't there but my guess was that man assisted arrest, was grappled to the floor and a foot placed on his neck. The man shouted he couldn't breath but people being arrested often claim things like that you only have to watch our own Police, Camera Action type of programmes to know that. The big unfortunate difference in this case he wasn't lying and tragically he died. The 2 other coppers couldn't have realised the severity of the situation as I don't believe they would have actually stood there and allow the man to die in front of them
In reply to Post #224
Human nature, we have to look for blame. If he had not committed and offence it would not have happened in the first place, I understand it was petty but that is not the point.
I think we all watch the news. This kind of thing has been going on and off in the states for years, BLM and then a riot. The trouble is at the moment with unemployment, Covid 19 and the rest there are a lot of angry people about wanting to vent their frustrations. It is a matter oft time before there is an explosion of more anger and violence
Human nature, we have to look for blame. If he had not committed and offence it would not have happened in the first place, I understand it was petty but that is not the point.
I think we all watch the news. This kind of thing has been going on and off in the states for years, BLM and then a riot. The trouble is at the moment with unemployment, Covid 19 and the rest there are a lot of angry people about wanting to vent their frustrations. It is a matter oft time before there is an explosion of more anger and violence