In reply to Post #161
It doesn't have to be expensive, that's down to choice.
It doesn't have to be expensive, that's down to choice.
In reply to Post #164
what a brill thing to bring up
animal products...now...i have to be careful how i respond to this one, as they "veggie, vegan" movement is gathering pace, yet they tend to forget rather alot of fundamental aspects, of which they are very clever on how they respond.
YES, we should use by products, they hold a massive nutritional benefit and therefore reducing waste. I wont state figures on carbon footprint of an avocado as opposed to locally sourced meat.
its hip to be "different" and everyone appears to have a label these days
what a brill thing to bring up
animal products...now...i have to be careful how i respond to this one, as they "veggie, vegan" movement is gathering pace, yet they tend to forget rather alot of fundamental aspects, of which they are very clever on how they respond.
YES, we should use by products, they hold a massive nutritional benefit and therefore reducing waste. I wont state figures on carbon footprint of an avocado as opposed to locally sourced meat.
its hip to be "different" and everyone appears to have a label these days
In reply to Post #162
I think most people look for deals whether it's bait or tackle, silly not to, I've not heard many on the bank moaning about bait cost, many are using a fair bit as well.
Bit of a difference talking about bivvies & tickets compared to boilies.
If there really is not much money in making bait then why bother with it all?
I think most people look for deals whether it's bait or tackle, silly not to, I've not heard many on the bank moaning about bait cost, many are using a fair bit as well.
Bit of a difference talking about bivvies & tickets compared to boilies.
If there really is not much money in making bait then why bother with it all?
In reply to Post #164
I still stand by the hnv theory and always will. The best 3 baits I have ever seen or made are all on the same theme. High protein, contain salts and vitamins and heavy in certain known fish attracting ingredients. Nothing else comes close.
I can catch carp on plastic corn or a pop up
But I can't have an edge over the 20 anglers I'm up against with the same tactic.
I still stand by the hnv theory and always will. The best 3 baits I have ever seen or made are all on the same theme. High protein, contain salts and vitamins and heavy in certain known fish attracting ingredients. Nothing else comes close.
I can catch carp on plastic corn or a pop up
But I can't have an edge over the 20 anglers I'm up against with the same tactic.
In reply to Post #168
ones fancy £800 + bivvy doesnt lure a fish, yet a pot of hook baits at £15 odd does, there's the difference to me
support those who produce baits, sleeping under the stars will catch more in my book
ones fancy £800 + bivvy doesnt lure a fish, yet a pot of hook baits at £15 odd does, there's the difference to me
support those who produce baits, sleeping under the stars will catch more in my book
In reply to Post #170
Pretty sure most are aware their bivvy is not going to lure them carp but it lasts them (hopefully) years, bait can be got through very quickly and because most don't have loads of space they are seeing the regularity of it's use and replenishment.
I support those who produce bait and sleeping under the stars counts for nowt if they are not fishing well...
Pretty sure most are aware their bivvy is not going to lure them carp but it lasts them (hopefully) years, bait can be got through very quickly and because most don't have loads of space they are seeing the regularity of it's use and replenishment.
I support those who produce bait and sleeping under the stars counts for nowt if they are not fishing well...
In reply to Post #171
shallow minded on the whole to me mate
shallow minded on the whole to me mate
In reply to Post #172
What or who is shallow minded?
What or who is shallow minded?
In reply to Post #173
not who mate, more what
a lay out of £800 for bivvy etc thats not needed or spend £800 on decent bait....no brainer in my eyes
not who mate, more what
a lay out of £800 for bivvy etc thats not needed or spend £800 on decent bait....no brainer in my eyes
In reply to Post #174
Couldn't agree more but this comes down to good anglers and not so good anglers.
Lets be honest some good anglers spend a lot on their kit, tickets, bait etc it's makes no odds to them, on the other hand....
Couldn't agree more but this comes down to good anglers and not so good anglers.
Lets be honest some good anglers spend a lot on their kit, tickets, bait etc it's makes no odds to them, on the other hand....
In reply to Post #175
I've just paid seven hundred on a bivvy but it's replaced a twenty five year old heavily used one, same with nearly all my kit, have passed most on to my son and being near retirement hope the new stuff will last. Bait is seasonal though, if you budget and spread the cost over the year, put the same amount of money by each month it builds up through winter and don't use boilies all year round. Fish the right bait at the right time of year.
I've just paid seven hundred on a bivvy but it's replaced a twenty five year old heavily used one, same with nearly all my kit, have passed most on to my son and being near retirement hope the new stuff will last. Bait is seasonal though, if you budget and spread the cost over the year, put the same amount of money by each month it builds up through winter and don't use boilies all year round. Fish the right bait at the right time of year.
In reply to Post #162
yet when regards to bait, they all want it for feck all... I'm not going to pay more than X per kilo...
Joss that is so true isn't it.
But a freezer full of freshly made, quality, proven catching bait isn't as Carpy on your insta/faceache page
As the latest bivvy, rods or SS3000s.
But it was ‘that bait' that got the bite behind the VASS wader shot.
yet when regards to bait, they all want it for feck all... I'm not going to pay more than X per kilo...
Joss that is so true isn't it.
But a freezer full of freshly made, quality, proven catching bait isn't as Carpy on your insta/faceache page
As the latest bivvy, rods or SS3000s.But it was ‘that bait' that got the bite behind the VASS wader shot.
In reply to Post #169
agreed on the whole when campaign fishing a regular meal should be just that, an actual meal. makes a huge difference.
agreed on the whole when campaign fishing a regular meal should be just that, an actual meal. makes a huge difference.
In reply to Post #164
Ah don't worry mate several purveyors of cheap ***** filled with bred and cereal already, they charge the same mostly
ones just annouced their costs going up as well
Ah don't worry mate several purveyors of cheap ***** filled with bred and cereal already, they charge the same mostly
ones just annouced their costs going up as well
In reply to Post #167
I'm certainly not a vegetarian Joss, but like you I aim to source whatever meat or fish I do eat from a traceable source on this island. I won't be buying green beans from Kenya, Peruvian asparagus or Vietnamese prawns when you can just wait until the right time of year and get a better version from our own producers.
We could take another example as the products of BP Milling.
They produce a pellet to feed fish with 36% protein from UK grown vegetable products. By all accounts the carp love them and grow on in a healthy way. The cereal is also better for the water quality than boiled balls of egg, animal protein, animal fat and in many cases chemical preservatives. Mills and presses himself, he doesn't need to worry about the cost of milks or animal by products killing his margins.
£30 for a 25KG sack of 12mm pellets, £1.20 a KG.
Smart guy.
These products are starting to seem far more sensible and viable to feed fish and put en mass in a lake than a fishmeal boilie.
I'm certainly not a vegetarian Joss, but like you I aim to source whatever meat or fish I do eat from a traceable source on this island. I won't be buying green beans from Kenya, Peruvian asparagus or Vietnamese prawns when you can just wait until the right time of year and get a better version from our own producers.
We could take another example as the products of BP Milling.
They produce a pellet to feed fish with 36% protein from UK grown vegetable products. By all accounts the carp love them and grow on in a healthy way. The cereal is also better for the water quality than boiled balls of egg, animal protein, animal fat and in many cases chemical preservatives. Mills and presses himself, he doesn't need to worry about the cost of milks or animal by products killing his margins.
£30 for a 25KG sack of 12mm pellets, £1.20 a KG.
Smart guy.
These products are starting to seem far more sensible and viable to feed fish and put en mass in a lake than a fishmeal boilie.