In reply to Post #168
I've been out doing a bit of lure fishing, spinning and drop shotting. I can't see how this is any advantage at all. If I'm spinning then the lures are attached with a snaplink, if I'm using a jighead then I just hook it in the eye or the dedicated rod clip as I walk about. It's not like you are trying to keep a rig in shape when lure fishing, it's probably got a wire trace on it anyway, or a fluorocarbon leader on a shotting set up. That plastic box probably weighs more than my rod.
Am I missing something?
I've been out doing a bit of lure fishing, spinning and drop shotting. I can't see how this is any advantage at all. If I'm spinning then the lures are attached with a snaplink, if I'm using a jighead then I just hook it in the eye or the dedicated rod clip as I walk about. It's not like you are trying to keep a rig in shape when lure fishing, it's probably got a wire trace on it anyway, or a fluorocarbon leader on a shotting set up. That plastic box probably weighs more than my rod.
Am I missing something?
In reply to Post #170
Just the hooks getting caught up in something during transport. That was always a pain for me.
Just the hooks getting caught up in something during transport. That was always a pain for me.
In reply to Post #171
The hook up type things the guy sold on the old Cemex forum do the trick. Great little gizmos. Think NGT or Trakker may do them these days.
The hook up type things the guy sold on the old Cemex forum do the trick. Great little gizmos. Think NGT or Trakker may do them these days.
I can't see it being of any use for my carp fishing as I use rod sleeves that protect the rig and it only takes seconds to recurve a chod rig over your thumb.
But it might be useful for pike fishing as the trebles grab the material in the rod sleeves, jumpers, hands etc.
But it might be useful for pike fishing as the trebles grab the material in the rod sleeves, jumpers, hands etc.
In reply to Post #163
I've been keeping my rods folded with tip tops and a simple velcro strap for decades and have never once -
1 - Had the lead knock about / damage the blank (its double wrapped in the velcro)
2 - Kinked a boom section (its under tension with the hooklink section intact and attached to the butt ring)
3 - Damaged the hook shank / point itself, or had it catch on anything ever as most of the time its in a sleeve etc.
My rods are 'made up' and the only remaining process is to attach the hookbait / change the rig if absolutely necessary. I use the same rigs for most of my venues anyway so they get packed away (minus the hookbait) every session.
This is why I'm not a believer in this product . . . .nice try but superfluous IMO . . .
I've been keeping my rods folded with tip tops and a simple velcro strap for decades and have never once -
1 - Had the lead knock about / damage the blank (its double wrapped in the velcro)
2 - Kinked a boom section (its under tension with the hooklink section intact and attached to the butt ring)
3 - Damaged the hook shank / point itself, or had it catch on anything ever as most of the time its in a sleeve etc.
My rods are 'made up' and the only remaining process is to attach the hookbait / change the rig if absolutely necessary. I use the same rigs for most of my venues anyway so they get packed away (minus the hookbait) every session.
This is why I'm not a believer in this product . . . .nice try but superfluous IMO . . .
In reply to Post #174
They a lapping it up in the youtube comments section lol.
They a lapping it up in the youtube comments section lol.
In reply to Post #174
You use a tip top AND a velcro strap, but think this ONE product isn't simple.
So your boom stays straight yes, but any curved section doesn't stay curved.
Using this product is no more work, or no more complicated than you adding that tip top and that velcro strap. It's exactly the same amount of work, probably less. And it keeps your rig in perfect condition.
I understand that you don't want this product, but surely you can work out that other people might and that doesn't make it a bad product. Right?
It's genuinly embarrasing the way some people act about products they don't want. Just because you don't want or see use for something, doesn't make it a bad product.
You use a tip top AND a velcro strap, but think this ONE product isn't simple.
So your boom stays straight yes, but any curved section doesn't stay curved.
Using this product is no more work, or no more complicated than you adding that tip top and that velcro strap. It's exactly the same amount of work, probably less. And it keeps your rig in perfect condition.
I understand that you don't want this product, but surely you can work out that other people might and that doesn't make it a bad product. Right?
It's genuinly embarrasing the way some people act about products they don't want. Just because you don't want or see use for something, doesn't make it a bad product.
In reply to Post #176
I still fail to grasp what's so hard about using quick change swivels and clipping on a new rig from your rig box or whatever you use? You could easily get six or so hinged stiff rigs (do it myself) in a Korda rigsafe and still have room for an array of different type of pre tied rigs covering all sorts of different scenarios, just for the cost of a rig box which is far less clunky than what this thread is about.
If you or anyone else wants to buy this thing from Ali's company, go right ahead, I'll not hold you back and try and convince you otherwise; your money right? I turn up from work after a long drive to my place and convenience any speedyness of setting up is paramount, I really get that. The last thing I want to do is spend ages faffing about and I'm not even remotely setup and it's getting on for 10pm and still not had anything to eat, all the same, quick change swivel to unclip the rig from last week that I've just used to find my spots, a new one on, all systems are a go and not 60barr lighter for the privilege.
I still fail to grasp what's so hard about using quick change swivels and clipping on a new rig from your rig box or whatever you use? You could easily get six or so hinged stiff rigs (do it myself) in a Korda rigsafe and still have room for an array of different type of pre tied rigs covering all sorts of different scenarios, just for the cost of a rig box which is far less clunky than what this thread is about.
If you or anyone else wants to buy this thing from Ali's company, go right ahead, I'll not hold you back and try and convince you otherwise; your money right? I turn up from work after a long drive to my place and convenience any speedyness of setting up is paramount, I really get that. The last thing I want to do is spend ages faffing about and I'm not even remotely setup and it's getting on for 10pm and still not had anything to eat, all the same, quick change swivel to unclip the rig from last week that I've just used to find my spots, a new one on, all systems are a go and not 60barr lighter for the privilege.
In reply to Post #177
What's the issue though
You can unclip your rig and put it in your rig box.
Or you can leave your rig clipped up and put it in this rig box.
It just sounds like people want to poo poo this product because Ali has his name behind it. I'm not even going to buy it, but i can see a use of it.
I could use £5 bank sticks, but I choose to use £20 ones. Like many of us do. £60 is hardly bank breaking, and if this works for some people then that's great. If you want to unclip your rigs and put them in your rig box then good for you. But for the love of God stop willing a guys company to fail because you don't like it or him.
If no one buys it, the company will fail. And then everyone here will be happy. But I'm sure it, and many of his other products will sell. And why would that possibly annoy you? Just get on with your life and don't buy things you don't think you need.
What's the issue though
You can unclip your rig and put it in your rig box.
Or you can leave your rig clipped up and put it in this rig box.
It just sounds like people want to poo poo this product because Ali has his name behind it. I'm not even going to buy it, but i can see a use of it.
I could use £5 bank sticks, but I choose to use £20 ones. Like many of us do. £60 is hardly bank breaking, and if this works for some people then that's great. If you want to unclip your rigs and put them in your rig box then good for you. But for the love of God stop willing a guys company to fail because you don't like it or him.
If no one buys it, the company will fail. And then everyone here will be happy. But I'm sure it, and many of his other products will sell. And why would that possibly annoy you? Just get on with your life and don't buy things you don't think you need.
In reply to Post #177
I've used ngt hook ups for years had no problems with them
I've used ngt hook ups for years had no problems with them
In reply to Post #178
You're moving the goalposts trying to compare cheap banksticks and expensive ones, you've got to compare apples to apples.
Not trying to be argumentative here, I think saying that because it's Ali behind this, that's the reason people are knocking it. Maybe knocking Ali is some bods motivation,, I don't know, not me. I wish the guy all the very best. I'm simply knocking a not so great idea. I'm all over great innovation if it solves a problem for me, this box thing ain't it. Like bods have been saying, it's solving a problem that doesn't really exist.
In essence, this box trickery is a way of generating a cashflow, fair play if anglers wanna stump up the lolly I suppose, similarly full credit to Ali et al, although I won't be buying one as I've no need for such a thing.
You're moving the goalposts trying to compare cheap banksticks and expensive ones, you've got to compare apples to apples.
Not trying to be argumentative here, I think saying that because it's Ali behind this, that's the reason people are knocking it. Maybe knocking Ali is some bods motivation,, I don't know, not me. I wish the guy all the very best. I'm simply knocking a not so great idea. I'm all over great innovation if it solves a problem for me, this box thing ain't it. Like bods have been saying, it's solving a problem that doesn't really exist.
In essence, this box trickery is a way of generating a cashflow, fair play if anglers wanna stump up the lolly I suppose, similarly full credit to Ali et al, although I won't be buying one as I've no need for such a thing.
In reply to Post #180
You've said you take your rigs off and put them in a box.
This is just a box, does the exactly the same, but it clips to your rods. So how can that be a bad idea?
Of course it's a way of generating cash flow. Why else would a company make a product
You've said you take your rigs off and put them in a box.
This is just a box, does the exactly the same, but it clips to your rods. So how can that be a bad idea?
Of course it's a way of generating cash flow. Why else would a company make a product
You can tell it's winter can't you 😬
If it makes you happy buy it and use it.
If it doesn't and you don't see the point (like me), don't buy it.
We all are guilty of buying things we don't need just for the sake of it from time to time.
If it doesn't and you don't see the point (like me), don't buy it.
We all are guilty of buying things we don't need just for the sake of it from time to time.
