In reply to Post #148
He's quite clearly not a terrorist. Yet more trumped up charges. Enemy of the state, they want him dead. All for speaking the truth about an issue the state doesn't want us to talk about. Don't blame him for getting out of the way.
Edit. There is no warrant for his arrest for not attending a preliminary hearing. You don't have to attend. Turns out he is on a long planned holiday. The scum media yet again stirring crap up.
He's quite clearly not a terrorist. Yet more trumped up charges. Enemy of the state, they want him dead. All for speaking the truth about an issue the state doesn't want us to talk about. Don't blame him for getting out of the way.
Edit. There is no warrant for his arrest for not attending a preliminary hearing. You don't have to attend. Turns out he is on a long planned holiday. The scum media yet again stirring crap up.
In reply to Post #151
In reply to Post #151
A few years back I sat next to him on a flight out of Luton, seemed polite and respectful, even helped an old couple get their bags into the holde above them and out when we landed
Right back to work.
A few years back I sat next to him on a flight out of Luton, seemed polite and respectful, even helped an old couple get their bags into the holde above them and out when we landed
Right back to work.
In reply to Post #148
We've gone from it was a racist assault from an institutionally racist force, to we can't be sure.
I still don't think it was racially motivated, but I'll settle for the change in attitude, it's good enough for me
We've gone from it was a racist assault from an institutionally racist force, to we can't be sure.
I still don't think it was racially motivated, but I'll settle for the change in attitude, it's good enough for me
In reply to Post #153
I bet those calling him racist and a terrorist have never actually seen any of his own work.. it's amazing the amount of people from an opinion from the media as opposed to their own minds. The video he released at the weekend is quite something
I bet those calling him racist and a terrorist have never actually seen any of his own work.. it's amazing the amount of people from an opinion from the media as opposed to their own minds. The video he released at the weekend is quite something
In reply to Post #154
I think I've been pretty consistent - it still looks like a racist assault. The force IS institutionally racist. And you, or I, or anyone else can't be 100 % sure what was in his mind before or after he lost control.
I listened to your haircut advice from Friday.
I didn't follow it, but I listened
I think I've been pretty consistent - it still looks like a racist assault. The force IS institutionally racist. And you, or I, or anyone else can't be 100 % sure what was in his mind before or after he lost control.
I listened to your haircut advice from Friday.
I didn't follow it, but I listened
In reply to Post #156
So what you are saying is if a white copper hits a black/brown man it always looks racist.
If that's how you always see it then yes you are always consistent.
You said in an earlier post that you live in the real world.
You are mistaken, get a hair cut, your hair must be getting in your eyes.
So what you are saying is if a white copper hits a black/brown man it always looks racist.
If that's how you always see it then yes you are always consistent.
You said in an earlier post that you live in the real world.
You are mistaken, get a hair cut, your hair must be getting in your eyes.
In reply to Post #157
Unfortunately, given all of the factors involved, including my own experiences, it is always a thought I will have yeah. I honestly wish I lived in a world where I could not think it - that's a world I'd like my kids to grow up in.
It's not just me tinhead. I'm just one of the very few that would say it on here I guess.
And - believe it or not - I'm more happy than anyone else if racial bias or intent can absolutely be ruled out. My lad is coming in through that airport this week and I want to feel absolutely sure that he'll be safe.
Anyway- come and talk football rubbish about your new defender eh?
Unfortunately, given all of the factors involved, including my own experiences, it is always a thought I will have yeah. I honestly wish I lived in a world where I could not think it - that's a world I'd like my kids to grow up in.
It's not just me tinhead. I'm just one of the very few that would say it on here I guess.
And - believe it or not - I'm more happy than anyone else if racial bias or intent can absolutely be ruled out. My lad is coming in through that airport this week and I want to feel absolutely sure that he'll be safe.
Anyway- come and talk football rubbish about your new defender eh?
It's interesting when you look at organizations which are quoted as “institutionally racist”
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/24/british-schools-are-institutionally-racist-that-must-change-fast
So I guess if a white teacher assaults a black / brown child they must be racist also.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/24/british-schools-are-institutionally-racist-that-must-change-fast
So I guess if a white teacher assaults a black / brown child they must be racist also.
In reply to Post #158
So many nationalities, colours and creeds come through airports, I'm sure if he acts normal there won't be problem
Sometimes you get someone who works in port security that is grumpy, I've had it myself, Dover/Calais seems to be a hotspot but I never say anything, not worth being pulled over and delayed.
So many nationalities, colours and creeds come through airports, I'm sure if he acts normal there won't be problem
Sometimes you get someone who works in port security that is grumpy, I've had it myself, Dover/Calais seems to be a hotspot but I never say anything, not worth being pulled over and delayed.
In reply to Post #150
So true
Sells the papers and attracts the punters
So true
Sells the papers and attracts the punters
In reply to Post #156
The force IS institutionally racist.
You spout some bollox, the percentage of “non white british” in the force is massive, yeah, they are all racist
Here's a thought for you, have you ever thought that “they” are different to other people through their values and training and look out for their own, regardless of race, its preservation of life, for their brothers and sisters. The force is strong and so is the bond. It's called teamwork
If we're talking racism let's put the cards on the table because you could say everybody is. I mean, a few years ago you wouldn't want to go in a black pub in Huddersfield would you without expecting a good hiding. Did you know there is a lot of racial conflict between Asians and black people, I could say they hate each other as a whole but I could be wrong?
The force IS institutionally racist.
You spout some bollox, the percentage of “non white british” in the force is massive, yeah, they are all racist
Here's a thought for you, have you ever thought that “they” are different to other people through their values and training and look out for their own, regardless of race, its preservation of life, for their brothers and sisters. The force is strong and so is the bond. It's called teamwork
If we're talking racism let's put the cards on the table because you could say everybody is. I mean, a few years ago you wouldn't want to go in a black pub in Huddersfield would you without expecting a good hiding. Did you know there is a lot of racial conflict between Asians and black people, I could say they hate each other as a whole but I could be wrong?
In reply to Post #162
Scozza - you're missing what the term means. It's about the organisation, not every single officer.
I could explain it to you. Or maybe have a look at this. From someone who knows better than either of us I expect.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/05/head-of-britains-police-chiefs-says-force-is-institutionally-racist-gavin-stephens
And I'm under no illusions that there's a culture of 'looking after their own' - I'm a Liverpool fan and we are all very aware of that aspect of policing. And I'm sure the family of Sarah Everard have their opinion of the police 'looking after their own' ...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/03/indecent-exposure-flashing-sarah-everard-wayne-couzens
Comradeship can be a good thing and in jobs like the police and others where those who do the role are easy targets, it is absolutely understandable to have your colleagues' back. But that shouldn't mean ignoring actions that are at best wrong and at worst illegal and putting others at risk.
I think being a police officer must be the hardest job there is. Even now as I'm writing this, officers are dealing with stupid violence in Southport ffs. (Saint Tommy winding up his EDL thugs after the town held a peaceful vigil earlier)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gyv882nvo
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/30/misinformation-southport-attack-suspect-social-media-conspiracy-theories
And yes. Lots of people of lots of different colours can be racist. It's still ****ty whoever it is.
Tinhead - yes there are 'grumpy' port staff - but grumpy isn't the concern.
My lad shouldn't need to 'act normal' because there's nothing not normal about him. Unless the staff are already pre judging him of course. He's a good lad so I've no worries about his behaviour. Other people, not so much.
Scozza - you're missing what the term means. It's about the organisation, not every single officer.
I could explain it to you. Or maybe have a look at this. From someone who knows better than either of us I expect.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/05/head-of-britains-police-chiefs-says-force-is-institutionally-racist-gavin-stephens
And I'm under no illusions that there's a culture of 'looking after their own' - I'm a Liverpool fan and we are all very aware of that aspect of policing. And I'm sure the family of Sarah Everard have their opinion of the police 'looking after their own' ...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/03/indecent-exposure-flashing-sarah-everard-wayne-couzens
Comradeship can be a good thing and in jobs like the police and others where those who do the role are easy targets, it is absolutely understandable to have your colleagues' back. But that shouldn't mean ignoring actions that are at best wrong and at worst illegal and putting others at risk.
I think being a police officer must be the hardest job there is. Even now as I'm writing this, officers are dealing with stupid violence in Southport ffs. (Saint Tommy winding up his EDL thugs after the town held a peaceful vigil earlier)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gyv882nvo
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/30/misinformation-southport-attack-suspect-social-media-conspiracy-theories
And yes. Lots of people of lots of different colours can be racist. It's still ****ty whoever it is.
Tinhead - yes there are 'grumpy' port staff - but grumpy isn't the concern.
My lad shouldn't need to 'act normal' because there's nothing not normal about him. Unless the staff are already pre judging him of course. He's a good lad so I've no worries about his behaviour. Other people, not so much.
In reply to Post #163
Blimey Mal I'm posting on a forum not writing an official document that's to be scrutinised like they do in a court of law
When I say act normal I mean be normal, I'm not implying your son is not normal and has to use his acting skills to take on the role of a normal person!
When I have to deal with grumpy people I don't rise to them.
If the same grumpy person deals with your son does he take offence and thinks he's being racist towards him?
I used to work with a black colleague who would use the race card when someone found a problem with the standard of his work.
Funny though it all stopped when he got his act together and he turned out to be great at his job. I hate to say it but he became better than me!
As for Southport I've seen the news, it just makes it worse for those poor parents
Blimey Mal I'm posting on a forum not writing an official document that's to be scrutinised like they do in a court of law
When I say act normal I mean be normal, I'm not implying your son is not normal and has to use his acting skills to take on the role of a normal person!
When I have to deal with grumpy people I don't rise to them.
If the same grumpy person deals with your son does he take offence and thinks he's being racist towards him?
I used to work with a black colleague who would use the race card when someone found a problem with the standard of his work.
Funny though it all stopped when he got his act together and he turned out to be great at his job. I hate to say it but he became better than me!
As for Southport I've seen the news, it just makes it worse for those poor parents
In reply to Post #163
Yet more bolox from the BBC and the Mardyun. How can they be EDL supporters when it was disbanded 9 years ago? 🤣
They might want to direct their questions towards the Telegraph regarding leaks.
Yet more bolox from the BBC and the Mardyun. How can they be EDL supporters when it was disbanded 9 years ago? 🤣
They might want to direct their questions towards the Telegraph regarding leaks.