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Baitboats....The accepted norm now.... (148 posts / 14,339 views)
scozza
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Post #136 25 Mar 2025 14:27
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Merit

And based on the history of the pastime where we pursed big old carp that had survived the test of time to become king on the pond.

Compared to some scuffy **** in a beanie hat with a 50lb stock fish in his arms caught from 160 yds with a bait boat, sonar and camera. Where is the merit in that, or is it more for "likes"

Like already mentioned, fishing is many things to different people but if you start looking for merit, be prepared, not everyone thinks the same
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #137 25 Mar 2025 15:45
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sure you helped me out by passing my email address onto Ken when I wanted to contact him - I thanked you at the time as did Ken who told you it made his week.

I couldn't give a hoot about your opinion of me - it means nothing coming from someone who has posted to belittle other forum members by calling them cheats & negating their
achievements - something I have NEVER done.

I'm just someone who loves fishing for carp. learning new things with an open mind & sharing things that I have learnt to help others whenever I can - I have done so since carp fishing forums were invented. However, I'll call people out on bull**** - always have done, always will. I see through your whinging, negativity & boring irrelevant anecdotes with self-sense of authority because you've been around the block - giving it the big "I am" - it's sad & pathetic. If you're gonna judge others then expect to be judged back. If you can't take it, don't give it.

I hope nobody who has caught the fish of their dreams using a bait boat & following rules has read your comments in this thread & now thinks less of their captures because that would be a real shame
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #138 25 Mar 2025 15:52
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Ian - read it back - it was a direct quote from his post

I agree that it means absolutely nothing, but he's trying to give validation to his opinion - I included it as a satirical dig to show how ridiculous it is.
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #139 25 Mar 2025 16:48
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"I hope nobody who has caught the fish of their dreams using a bait boat & following rules has read your comments in this thread & now thinks less of their captures because that would be a real shame"

If anybody does think that then their evaluation is as meaningless as their fortitude.

You called Wandle out on another post, telling him to go shout at clouds or whatever, you're making a personal dig at the individual rather than a groups actions.
Reflect perhaps ?

By the by, you made what I perceived (opinion) to be a smug statement on how well you prepare your particles when in reality, you copied a method used by a South African YouTube channel, posting there as "Toronto-Jamie." I presume that's you ? If not, I retract the statement but I think I'm correct here.

PPS: I've read Martin Gays letters to Ritchie and I am in no doubt to their veracity, another person who you publicly berated on another forum because you know best. Apparently.
The internet doesn't forget, and neither do I.
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #140 25 Mar 2025 19:49
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wowsers - proper stalker action going on here.

shouting at clouds is an old meme from the simpsons mate. look it up - it was a joke

re particles - I assume you are referring to posts in this thread? https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=444802

Not sure how my posts are 'smug' as you put it & there is nothing in there taken from the Bait Tactics videos. I have even posted recently about how good the channel is (and the music)

I've been preparing my own for over a decade now & have been trying all sorts of methods to improve them - way before those videos were created & have commented on this in many places including here, FB groups & on a couple of video calls. I have never been able to control the actual ferment based on the different smells that the particles have created & I plan to try EM1 which I will prepare as suggested by bait tactics to control it this year as well as some other things (bee food probiotic blends, bird seed hydro's & others). I have been attempting bacterial blends for a couple of years & have videos & pictures for proof of my journey way before any bait tactics videos. If I have said any different then please lmk know - I am pretty sure that I have always credited others for methods that I have used including Mark C's garlic hemp which is the gold standard of bait as far as I am concerned - even if it did bring me out in a rash when I spilt it on my arm. I've not watched all of the bait tactics video's but I am not sure he has ever actually talked about fermenting particles? He has posted on creating EM1, CSL & using them to create Hydro's but never anything on particles?

re martin gay - publicly berated? you're talking absolute rubbish pal & quite clearly 'forget'

I posted about a conversation I had with one of his relatives on a post on Cemex which by complete coincidence was started by the same guy that started this one (I don't forget either) Not once did I berate him - I repeated a story that was told to me.

I was quite clear it was an addition to the legend & that we will never truly know. He was an angling hero of mine as a kid & I never once actually said anything negative about him & never expected it to blow up like it did. My words were twisted by Paul Selman on the fishingmagic forum a few years later & I replied on there to set the record straight. That didn't seem to be enough for certain members who went all out to 'prove me wrong' & after further discussions with the family, including his widow Yvonne, we agreed to remove my comments & I have never written anything about it again & I never will. I am still friends with them now & saw one of them yesterday - I will tell them about this post as they will find it amusing.
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #141 25 Mar 2025 20:59
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You're not interesting enough to stalk, I just call out BS when I see it. Your bias against another forum member is palpable, don't try to brush it off. Selman rubbished MG on fishing magic, as did yourself. The site owners disagreed with the doubters, they got copies of the letters as well.

Crack on.
Daleg2008 Daleg2008
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Post #142 25 Mar 2025 21:59
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Scruffy **** in a beanie catching a 50lb stock fish from under the rod tips has no merit in my eyes let alone caught with a BB

I've never used one but Im in the market for one for reasons personal to me. I've never had anything against them just the user if they are a ****

If TH caught the Burghfield common using a bait boat would I say that capture deserves nothing because of the BB, no because he comes across as a general nice guy who lives and breathes angling.

When some muppet is boating across my swim I have issue with the user same if they were casting over my lines.

JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #143 25 Mar 2025 22:49
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LOL - says the guy bringing up my previous comments from over 10 years ago & from 3 different websites??? you absolute looper
scozza
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Post #144 26 Mar 2025 05:51
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Horses for courses. If they are allowed they are allowed. Down to the angler if they want to use one or not then
Boycie Boycie
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Post #145 27 Mar 2025 19:18
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Imagine gatekeeping angling. Can't you just let people enjoy themselves without trying to diminish their pleasure by 'discrediting' captures. I imagine the vast majority of bait boat anglers really couldn't care less whether you think their achievements matter or not, and that's coming from someone who's never owned one.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #146 30 Mar 2025 23:15
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I'm entitled to give my opinion on baitboats ,I've given my opinion ,some don't like it fine ,some agree ,also fine ...

However Jamie ,doesn't have the ability to understand context of the conversation ,so what happens then is he starts back tracking ,bringing up stuff,virtually anything he can think of ,if that doesn't work ...then he turns to plan b ..,thus plan b often resorts to.saying very little about the original OPs thread ..

Well Jamie I have news for you ....I can take it and give it ..

And I'll say it once more I really don't think you understand the basics of angling you over complicate everything in your replies ,do you actually even go fishing ?

And I'm quite happy to say ,once again bait boats are cheating ..,that's my opinion ..

wandle1 wandle1
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Post #147 30 Mar 2025 23:25
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I'm glad you have noticed ,because it's not the first time Jamie has done this to other members, your right to call that out ,because recently some one on here did just that about bait ,he could not handle it .

And he got personal..

So well done on noticing ,personally Jamie should be permanently banned ,removed from this forum ,especially in the light of how he treated another member,if I was a mod ,he'd be long gone ..

Belch Belch
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Post #148 31 Mar 2025 10:20
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One take I have from this thread is that at least we are all still passionate about what is effectively a nerds hobby; no need for b*tching / point scoring though - life is def too short! We impale steel into cold blooded creatures for fun, spending ridiculous amounts of money and time to do so; feel satisfied that we ALL have this in common . . . peace out
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