As someone else said, if the arms open, surely once the fish is in the net it's a disaster waiting to happen?

In reply to Post #122
Surely that is going to snag in the mesh every time!? I might have the wrong end of the stick (or twig!) here.....I hope so!

FWIW. At least he gives credit to the inventor-hope he gets a good cut on royalties! Not sure his sample rate is meaningful in any way tho. 15 takes? Thats hardly conclusive.I'm sure product development in other industries would have a much larger sample before deciding to manufacture and distribute.

In reply to Post #136
lake owners like embyro !

In reply to Post #142
banned product already

Very annoying video, managed 3 minutes and still don't know anything about the mechanics. Just put it on a table and show what it does?!

The turtle was indeed pulling hard, so i don't see why a carp would set it off.

So, here we go, bad marketing. I get the teasing, but obscuring the functioning only puts people off.

In reply to Post #139
i would assume its engineered to separate / collapse in the same type of way as the prongs on a sea weight?

Not sure how it works if the terrapin did not set it off tugging away at it? Surely that's the sort of bite you don't want to miss.

It's a no from me I'm out!

Don't think the Terrapin managed to move the lead and that appears to be key. The way I see it the product works like;

1 - Fish picks up hookbait
2 - Fish feels pr!ck of hook
3 - fish moves, feels weight of lead
4 - lead moving causes Twig thing to operate, thus "striking" the hook home

Hamidi kept on saying, "there's none of the usual head-shaking" which a carp would naturally do as the weight of the lead is felt. The headshaking, as we know can throw the hook but if the Twig thing has engaged and hit the hook home, the fish is hooked.

I can certainly see the theory behind it and how it would work but at the end of the day you still need the carp to pick up your hookbait and engage the lead for the Twig thing to do its job. I suppose the marketing people at OMC will tell us it converts those missed opportunities, and maybe it would?

It's the safety element that concerns me, crack off and you have got a live trigger rig sat there waiting to nail a fish or tether a caught fish if your line had snapped. Can you fish it with a drop-off style lead clip or would this negate the weight needed to trigger the twig? And as others have said, what about the twig tangling in the landing net mesh?

will be interesting to see the actual mechanics but can see most fisheries banning them as there are so many variables...

Seen on Facebook that several lakes have banned this already and rightly so. It's not good etiquette for a start, it's catch at all costs and additional tethering up risk should a rig be lost. In lesser experienced anglers hands I think this has potential to cause great harm.

Glad fisheries are reacting quickly

In reply to Post #148
Nuddock wood lake and lodges have already banned it. Think there will be a fair few who follow.

In reply to Post #150
it will be interesting to see what the fishery management page members think, i know its on there at the mo

Somewhere in the far corner of my brain I recall this sort of thing to be unlawful. So I checked and found this in the Thames area byelaws.
"In the Thames byelaw area, you must not use any device that is designed to hook a fish automatically."

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/regional-rod-fishing-byelaws-south-east-region

In reply to Post #150
As have Farlows and New Celtic Lakes. Assume my feed will be full of other lakes following suit in the next day or so