Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are regarding the discussion on the Fox All-Ways Carp Fishing Podcast as to whether carp fishing is under threat?
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In reply to Post #1
It felt to me like their concern was more about whether or not they would be able to continue to sell Fox and OMC tackle to kids through their social media once the ban came in.
They are all only out to make money.
It felt to me like their concern was more about whether or not they would be able to continue to sell Fox and OMC tackle to kids through their social media once the ban came in.
They are all only out to make money.
In reply to Post #1
It isn't under threat, there's more carp anglers on the bank than ever. There are more lakes than ever. There are more packed out £750 a year club lakes than ever. There are more bait companies and tackle companies than ever. It's never been more affordable than ever before.
The bigger companies just have more competition than ever, because people are starting the realise you can't rinse people for old rope, and that hurts a select few in the pocket.
It isn't under threat, there's more carp anglers on the bank than ever. There are more lakes than ever. There are more packed out £750 a year club lakes than ever. There are more bait companies and tackle companies than ever. It's never been more affordable than ever before.
The bigger companies just have more competition than ever, because people are starting the realise you can't rinse people for old rope, and that hurts a select few in the pocket.
In reply to Post #2
from what I have seen it also felt more like it was a plea to maintain business than fishing legitimately being threatened.
from what I have seen it also felt more like it was a plea to maintain business than fishing legitimately being threatened.
Whenever they say 'carp fishing' replace it with my bottom line or the bottom line of the hand that feeds me
I had a good think and marshalled my thoughts before posting. I don’t do much fishing media, preferring to actually fish than to watching it. So before going further I have to say other than Ian Chilcott whom I know via his writings in Carpworld and Ali Hamedi because you can’t avoid him, I have no idea who the other 3 are.
So thoughts. What an absolute pile of ********. With the exception of Chilcott everyone else seemed to think that without angling ‘stars’ pushing out media content that fishing will die. Well I first went fishing in 1962 aged 6. From the age of ten to through my teenage years I went fishing every weekend, bank holiday and school holiday. Once working but still single I still fished weekends regularly. In the mid 70’s official government figure put the number of PARTICIPATING anglers at 7.5 million. So how did that happen? The only angling media available to the vast majority was the Angling Times and Anglers mail. Specialised stuff like Peter Mohan’s efforts were kitchen table publications and very niche.
The participants in the blog then conflated two issues. One was the instant gratification aspect. They said people wanted to join the hobby ( it is a hobby not a sport) and instantly want to catch a 30 or 40 pounder to put it on social media for likes. They were totally oblivious to the fact that THEY were the people who are solely responsible for this. Are they so totally up their own arses that they don’t see this? The other point raised was without media exposure from the tackle companies youngsters won’t know about the sport, they then with breath taking arrogance then mix this up with bottom line profits. What in effect they were saying, especially Hamedi was they need the youngsters hooked so they would buy their gear from them and enhance their bottom line profits. Hamedi spoke of sales techniques and university degrees but this approach is straight out of the drug dealers playbook.
Finally if Hamedi was a footballer the stats would show he dominated the field with 85% possession. He never shut up, talking over the others, lots of personal big ups for himself. I was determined to watch to the end but it was difficult. I know times change, I know technology marches on but it also has downsides and all of those with one exception were too blinkered to see this. They were complaining about things that they had caused and couldn’t separate need from greed. Any talk about doing free events from the tackle companies is purely patching up the damage they have caused.
So thoughts. What an absolute pile of ********. With the exception of Chilcott everyone else seemed to think that without angling ‘stars’ pushing out media content that fishing will die. Well I first went fishing in 1962 aged 6. From the age of ten to through my teenage years I went fishing every weekend, bank holiday and school holiday. Once working but still single I still fished weekends regularly. In the mid 70’s official government figure put the number of PARTICIPATING anglers at 7.5 million. So how did that happen? The only angling media available to the vast majority was the Angling Times and Anglers mail. Specialised stuff like Peter Mohan’s efforts were kitchen table publications and very niche.
The participants in the blog then conflated two issues. One was the instant gratification aspect. They said people wanted to join the hobby ( it is a hobby not a sport) and instantly want to catch a 30 or 40 pounder to put it on social media for likes. They were totally oblivious to the fact that THEY were the people who are solely responsible for this. Are they so totally up their own arses that they don’t see this? The other point raised was without media exposure from the tackle companies youngsters won’t know about the sport, they then with breath taking arrogance then mix this up with bottom line profits. What in effect they were saying, especially Hamedi was they need the youngsters hooked so they would buy their gear from them and enhance their bottom line profits. Hamedi spoke of sales techniques and university degrees but this approach is straight out of the drug dealers playbook.
Finally if Hamedi was a footballer the stats would show he dominated the field with 85% possession. He never shut up, talking over the others, lots of personal big ups for himself. I was determined to watch to the end but it was difficult. I know times change, I know technology marches on but it also has downsides and all of those with one exception were too blinkered to see this. They were complaining about things that they had caused and couldn’t separate need from greed. Any talk about doing free events from the tackle companies is purely patching up the damage they have caused.
I had to turn it off couldn't listen to Ali or the others anymore and when he calls out Danny Fairbrass for not doing enough to protect and promote the sport that is a joke haven't seen OMC fencing lakes for nothing recently.
In reply to Post #6
So thoughts. What an absolute pile of ********. With the exception of Chilcott everyone else seemed to think that without angling ‘stars’ pushing out media content that fishing will die. Well I first went fishing in 1962 aged 6. From the age of ten to through my teenage years I went fishing every weekend, bank holiday and school holiday. Once working but still single I still fished weekends regularly. In the mid 70’s official government figure put the number of PARTICIPATING anglers at 7.5 million. So how did that happen? The only angling media available to the vast majority was the Angling Times and Anglers mail. Specialised stuff like Peter Mohan’s efforts were kitchen table publications and very niche.
exactly, fishing needs online media content my @rse,
70s and 80s alll we had was Angling Times, Anglers Mail, rods and reels on tick from Kays or Littlewoods.
Just shows what an utter circus carp fishing has become.
So thoughts. What an absolute pile of ********. With the exception of Chilcott everyone else seemed to think that without angling ‘stars’ pushing out media content that fishing will die. Well I first went fishing in 1962 aged 6. From the age of ten to through my teenage years I went fishing every weekend, bank holiday and school holiday. Once working but still single I still fished weekends regularly. In the mid 70’s official government figure put the number of PARTICIPATING anglers at 7.5 million. So how did that happen? The only angling media available to the vast majority was the Angling Times and Anglers mail. Specialised stuff like Peter Mohan’s efforts were kitchen table publications and very niche.
exactly, fishing needs online media content my @rse,
70s and 80s alll we had was Angling Times, Anglers Mail, rods and reels on tick from Kays or Littlewoods.
Just shows what an utter circus carp fishing has become.
If Ali wants to bring the business together, I would advise him to start a whatsapp group and maybe a doodle instead of that embarassing speech. All that drama. I think he just want to be talked about.
In reply to Post #1
Calling DF out is an absolute Joke from Hamidi.
Korda have done loads over the years to promote Carp Angling, obviously with an Agenda none of the other companies have done anywhere near as much as they have, and OMC…!?
The fella is an absolute buffoon and is just interested in self promotion and likes.
I would never ever buy a single piece of OMC Kit purely because he’s such a penis. Wouldn’t matter If it absolutely guaranteed me catching every time I went, I’d still swerve it.
I couldn’t watch the whole video, utter BS being spoken, bet Chilly couldn’t wait to get out of that room at the end.
Calling DF out is an absolute Joke from Hamidi.
Korda have done loads over the years to promote Carp Angling, obviously with an Agenda none of the other companies have done anywhere near as much as they have, and OMC…!?
The fella is an absolute buffoon and is just interested in self promotion and likes.
I would never ever buy a single piece of OMC Kit purely because he’s such a penis. Wouldn’t matter If it absolutely guaranteed me catching every time I went, I’d still swerve it.
I couldn’t watch the whole video, utter BS being spoken, bet Chilly couldn’t wait to get out of that room at the end.
In reply to Post #8
"haven't seen OMC fencing lakes for nothing recently."
Last time I checked, there aren't any Otters in Paddock Wood...
Embryo being about otters was just a front, a very see-through one at that too.
"haven't seen OMC fencing lakes for nothing recently."
Last time I checked, there aren't any Otters in Paddock Wood...
Embryo being about otters was just a front, a very see-through one at that too.
hamidi on the fox podcast was all about him, the others couldn't get a word in...i disliked haimidi before that podcast, now i despize him even.
The under 16 social media ban is clearly a concern that less kids will enter the sport.
Will magazine sales increase because of this or will the under 16s find ways to carry on regardless. I suspect the latter.
Will magazine sales increase because of this or will the under 16s find ways to carry on regardless. I suspect the latter.
In reply to Post #12
Korda will not take over a water that is under a lease to a club,they will only enquire about waters and only do a deal if club or owner of the water is 100% happy
Korda will not take over a water that is under a lease to a club,they will only enquire about waters and only do a deal if club or owner of the water is 100% happy