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On Borrowed time..! (61 posts / 9,943 views)
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #1 16 Jan 2023 21:23
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Gentlemen, watch the Nash video, the latest one,join me and engulf the reality of a demise of a beautiful ecosystem..

There you will learn about kill platforms,motorways ,and appalling damage to the fish we hold in high revere..

Thank the do gooders,the greens,and those who.have unwittingly been party to the destruction of many a beautiful place..

Well ,done...Alan,well.done Nash....now watch and understand because this has happened to ALL.of my favourite lakes and special places..over 130.venues on my list ..
Stokebloke Stokebloke
Posts: 597
Post #2 17 Jan 2023 12:49
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Just watched this. Best Nash vid I've seen. Not a fan of Alan's but this was far removed from the usual drum n bass dross they often turn out. Vivaldi, wow.
Beautiful and emotional.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #3 17 Jan 2023 12:56
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In reply to Post #2
Emotional and very very educational..

What Alan showed is he's an angler,not just a carp angler..just imagine if your piece of paradise,your happy place shall we say began to be dismantled in front of your own eyes..and there was little you can do about it..

Seriously,well done Nash for doing this ....

I'd also like to add,for those who don't have that experience of predation as yet ,and that is ...repeat captures and sightings ,are per the norm,this is because the stock is slowly being murdered..the remaining ones I found very easy to catch..
The_Saint The_Saint
Posts: 2,072
Post #4 17 Jan 2023 13:18
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In reply to Post #1
watched half before work this morning, the brace shot of those two commons was very impressive, he's not my favourite chap doing fishing, but he deffo got it right this time
g4fne g4fne
Posts: 15,110
Post #5 17 Jan 2023 15:08
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Nice film .... Benefited from a suitable soundtrack, calm narration and not having reams of advertising, shouting or time watching someone play a fish to the bank (i find that really tedious) ... A proper throw back film imo. Good to see John Bailey looking well

The Otter thing : As i get older my stance on this is starting to shift towards needing to accept they are/will be a fact of life going forward .... As Anglers we will need to adapt and adjust our expectations of the sport and the fish we target. We can stamp our feet as much as we like but we cannot change what has happened in the past and a cull is never likely to be agreed (at this stage I would never agree with that anyway)

I have little sympathy for the the day ticket/commercial scene. Its a soulless side of industry, and with the rising cost to fish these places will continue to alienate many. This is even more unpallatable than the risk of predation.

Traditional mixed species club waters I have more sympathy for. If fencing and protecting their waters can be done at a cost that does NOT alienate the guy on a pension then I would happily encourage that.

However if fencing is not possible, and as a result we get some unknown, the quiet and we let nature deal with the issues, I will be happy to take my chances here.
AideyKaye
Posts: 1,010
Post #6 17 Jan 2023 15:18
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In reply to Post #5
What happened to PAG and the Angling Trusts initial foray into the world of otter predation?

Things have gone very quiet. Including those who immersed themselves with PAG's early days.

No mention from Tim, Ali etc.

Martin Bowler mentioned the above on the Nash podcast, and he wasn't exactly full of praise.
wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #7 17 Jan 2023 16:19
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In reply to Post #6
Very good point .I have not heard a dicky bird for a long time personally..

I don't know..?
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #8 17 Jan 2023 16:44
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In reply to Post #7
not watched it yet, but will do very soon.

There's another Nash one regarding this subject coming out soon also

Re the PAG, as most of you are aware, i was part of it for sometime. quite a few of the members when i was in there have moved on, as i did/have. No idea what or if they are still running.
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #9 17 Jan 2023 17:10
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In reply to Post #8
Same...I contacted Tim back along,never heard anymore,normally he'd reply ASAP,I just left it to be honest as he's no spring chicken..

Was proud of the work I did do for the PAG ,...but nothing seems to have changed over this emotive subject...I just do what I did before and that is talk to people and lake owners ,hoping they'll take it on board..

I guess ,it's out there now...!
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #10 17 Jan 2023 17:15
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In reply to Post #9
It was a thankless task hey.

But, i'm glad i sat on it, i also feel i left at the right time.

TP doesn't hold the chair there anymore, Tony Gibson does, i might give him a buzz, he's a good bloke.

wandle1 wandle1
Posts: 7,469
Post #11 17 Jan 2023 17:24
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In reply to Post #10
Probably right there Josh...I'm glad I did it ,was very cathartic for me ,plus I felt I could help others ,or at least talk about it..

You did a good job, and so did I...we did our little bit for the passion of angling ..

Learnt a lot as well...
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #12 17 Jan 2023 18:10
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In reply to Post #11
indeed mate and thank you.

i continue to help those who wish to listen and or take on advice, if they dont, im sadly no longer willing to waste my spare time
Baitman Baitman
Posts: 5,233
Post #13 17 Jan 2023 18:50
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In reply to Post #9
Plenty of information on fencing and predator prevention in the fishery management group.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
Post #14 17 Jan 2023 18:56
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In reply to Post #1
I must admit I did really enjoy this video infact I loved it and that's saying a lot seeing I can't stand Alan Blair really don't like watching him BUT this really shown him in another light, hopefully they bring more of these out
suffokandy
Posts: 1,431
Post #15 17 Jan 2023 19:16
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Another for this offering. AB definitely more reflective than usual and rather philosophical about the issue. Words chosen carefully but the underlying message is things look bleak .. Re the PAG it became very politicised rapidly due to the hoops all concerned were having to continually jump through, just to be heard at levels that may have one ear open on a good day. When you consider raw effluent discharge is a far more visible issue and water authorities get away with blue murder, the issue of otters (seen by fewer people) hardly registers.... besides which the fluffy bunny tree hugging fraternity outnumber those affected by predation.
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