In reply to Post #1
They are deathtraps . All threads go the same way. Get good quality clothing, decent shelter, a good bed and bag, and plenty of hot food and drink.
They are deathtraps . All threads go the same way. Get good quality clothing, decent shelter, a good bed and bag, and plenty of hot food and drink.
In reply to Post #2
Thanks, I'll avoid.
Thanks, I'll avoid.
In reply to Post #1
I dunno - this one looks pretty good!
Gasmate Camping Heater
No idea why you'd need such a device in the bleedin outback though . . .not sure why they're not marketed over here?
I dunno - this one looks pretty good!
Gasmate Camping Heater
No idea why you'd need such a device in the bleedin outback though . . .not sure why they're not marketed over here?
In reply to Post #1
Warm clothing, and a hot water bottle for bed and a thermal cover, please don't bother with a bivvy heater!
Warm clothing, and a hot water bottle for bed and a thermal cover, please don't bother with a bivvy heater!
Carbon Monoxide is a silent killer, the only good part is that death is relatively painless.
Heaters inside a bivvy are a recipe for disaster. I've seen some with chimneys that are supposed to help, fancy cutting a hole in yours?
If it's cold enough to need one, the fish ain't feeding, go home, simples!
Heaters inside a bivvy are a recipe for disaster. I've seen some with chimneys that are supposed to help, fancy cutting a hole in yours?
If it's cold enough to need one, the fish ain't feeding, go home, simples!
In reply to Post #6
Not again... People will try to tell you you dont need one because they never been out in - 10, - 15C... CO will not kill you... Being stupid will... Just as gun doesnt kill people... Stupid people do... Get hpv or similar and CO meter for your piece of mind if you wish so and enjoy winter sessions...
Not again... People will try to tell you you dont need one because they never been out in - 10, - 15C... CO will not kill you... Being stupid will... Just as gun doesnt kill people... Stupid people do... Get hpv or similar and CO meter for your piece of mind if you wish so and enjoy winter sessions...
In reply to Post #7
CO will not kill you...
What?????
Why do you think that people who were suicidal used to run a hose from the exhaust into a car? With the advent of catalytic converters, this has made death a more drawn out procedure! Carbon Monoxide latches onto the blood 400 times stronger than Oxygen and prevents the Oxygen getting into your bloodstream. Once your blood is saturated enough, death is inevitable.
Guns don't kill? Play Russian Roulette six times and you'll find out!
CO will not kill you...
What?????
Why do you think that people who were suicidal used to run a hose from the exhaust into a car? With the advent of catalytic converters, this has made death a more drawn out procedure! Carbon Monoxide latches onto the blood 400 times stronger than Oxygen and prevents the Oxygen getting into your bloodstream. Once your blood is saturated enough, death is inevitable.
Guns don't kill? Play Russian Roulette six times and you'll find out!
In reply to Post #8
Put gun on the table and leave it there for 1 month and see how many people the gun will kill... use heater smart and see how many people will be killed... CO and guns dont kill people... stupid people kill people!
Put gun on the table and leave it there for 1 month and see how many people the gun will kill... use heater smart and see how many people will be killed... CO and guns dont kill people... stupid people kill people!
In reply to Post #9
Not worth the risk,with the clothing and bags available now
Not worth the risk,with the clothing and bags available now
In reply to Post #1
As most people have already said ....please don't use heaters in your bivvy overnight
A friend of mine is severly scarred across 1 side of his face down his neck chest and 1 arm think ...Simon Weston
all because he fell asleep in his bivvy with the door closed with his stove on and somehow it was knocked over or something fell on the stove and the bivvy caught fire and literally melted on him luckilly he managed to dive in the lake and this probably saved his life ...20 yrs on and he is still having treatment for this and is on very strong meds to allieviate the pain for the rest of his life ....it really isnt worth it
just out of curiosity are bivvy's sleeping bags etc fire retardent nowadays ?
As most people have already said ....please don't use heaters in your bivvy overnight
A friend of mine is severly scarred across 1 side of his face down his neck chest and 1 arm think ...Simon Weston
all because he fell asleep in his bivvy with the door closed with his stove on and somehow it was knocked over or something fell on the stove and the bivvy caught fire and literally melted on him luckilly he managed to dive in the lake and this probably saved his life ...20 yrs on and he is still having treatment for this and is on very strong meds to allieviate the pain for the rest of his life ....it really isnt worth it just out of curiosity are bivvy's sleeping bags etc fire retardent nowadays ?
Avid do a heated bag
That's got to be a safer way
That's got to be a safer way
In reply to Post #11
Because he used stove stupidly people shouldnt use bivvy heaters designed for heating? Maybe people should stop using stoves when fishing? After all there are thermos for hot water...
Because he used stove stupidly people shouldnt use bivvy heaters designed for heating? Maybe people should stop using stoves when fishing? After all there are thermos for hot water...
In reply to Post #9
Put a gun on the table and it is in nobody's hands, it is not in use.
Put a bivvy heater on, and it is immediately being used.
With a bivvy heater it may not be stupidity, it could be down to being cold.
Too many intelligent people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning.
The sensible answer is always get good clothing and a good sleeping bag that suits you.
The part of me that gets cold is my feet, normally because i forget to get out of damp socks and put clean on.
Even in the middle of winter though the most I wear in the sleeping bag is combat trousers, t-shirt and a light fleece, maybe with a wooly hat as I hate my head being undercover.
Daytime clothing wise, combat trousers, t-shirt with fleece on top then a full zip up fleece and if still cold a jacket and overtrousers.
Boots are TFG Primal Extreme boots for sitting still, Nitehawk combat boots if I'm walking around
Put a gun on the table and it is in nobody's hands, it is not in use.
Put a bivvy heater on, and it is immediately being used.
With a bivvy heater it may not be stupidity, it could be down to being cold.
Too many intelligent people have died from carbon monoxide poisoning.
The sensible answer is always get good clothing and a good sleeping bag that suits you.
The part of me that gets cold is my feet, normally because i forget to get out of damp socks and put clean on.
Even in the middle of winter though the most I wear in the sleeping bag is combat trousers, t-shirt and a light fleece, maybe with a wooly hat as I hate my head being undercover.
Daytime clothing wise, combat trousers, t-shirt with fleece on top then a full zip up fleece and if still cold a jacket and overtrousers.
Boots are TFG Primal Extreme boots for sitting still, Nitehawk combat boots if I'm walking around
In reply to Post #13
A bivvy heater will cause carbon monoxide poisoning, just like a stove.
A bivvy heater will set your bivvy on fire if knocked over, just like a stove.
A stove however is used for a few minutes to boil some water or heat some food. The problem with the heaters is it's too easy to fall asleep with it on. So easy to carelessly kick it over or for something to fall on or near it while you're asleep. That's the difference.
A bivvy heater will cause carbon monoxide poisoning, just like a stove.
A bivvy heater will set your bivvy on fire if knocked over, just like a stove.
A stove however is used for a few minutes to boil some water or heat some food. The problem with the heaters is it's too easy to fall asleep with it on. So easy to carelessly kick it over or for something to fall on or near it while you're asleep. That's the difference.