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Waterproof & Breathable Outer Layer (44 posts / 4,068 views)
simon66 simon66
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Post #1 28 Oct 2021 19:49
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Hi All

I'm after some advice/recommendations for a waterproof and breathable outer layer to go over my Snugpak SG9. I seem to have lost my last waterproof coat which was a kind of rubberised getup which was totally waterproof, but not breathable and even the slightest activity meant I would be sweating my t*ts off!

I'm all for British made products where I can, but will consider others as long as it's not Far East.

I've read good things about the Tennier ECWCS jackets which may be the one, but not sure I can be doing with hassle of importing one from the US especially as I'd have no clue on sizing. So are there any other top alternatives? I'm happy to pay proper money for right jacket. I've been looking online at the Hilltrek ventile, Mountain Method, Paramo and Fortis, but no experience of any of them. Has anyone got any real life experience in something suitable that would work and fit well over an SG9? I'd say my SG9 which is a large is pretty ‘fitted' on me.
Cheers
yonny yonny
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Post #2 28 Oct 2021 19:59
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All of the US ECWS jackets are decent. The Tennier one is best but pricey and rare and not the only option.
It's SJ9 btw
karmh karmh
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Post #3 28 Oct 2021 20:00
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I have an sj9 and I don't think it's meant to be breathable I'm sweating and red faced after a bit of movement in it, great for sitting in the cold tho. I'm in the same boat as you atm and I've got a dpm army waterproof which I keep in my barrow but it's a bit small to fit over an sj9 so will probably get a bigger one of those.
simon66 simon66
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Post #4 28 Oct 2021 20:07
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👍 should have remembered that as they're my initials😆
yonny yonny
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Post #5 28 Oct 2021 20:22
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oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #6 29 Oct 2021 05:44
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WHICH scores this well unless you want to spend at least another£100 quid for a tiny bit better spec ?
I would give this serious consideration LINKY POO


ME
personally wear German heavy duty Gor-Tex flectarn ex army its snagproof breathable and completely waterproof provided you keep it clean zipped trousers for takin a pee built in braces win win
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #7 29 Oct 2021 08:58
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Have a look on eBay for ‘ECWCS Parka' and don't just narrow it down looking for a Tennier one. There are other companies that got the US military contracts that are made to the exact same designs and spec, Tennessee Apparel and Alpha Industries being two that spring to mind
simon66 simon66
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Post #8 29 Oct 2021 09:10
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Cheers Gerry - I'll take a closer look at the Rohan one. The fabric concerns me a bit on initial look as may not be that robust and prone to snagging etc. I want something that can take a few scrapes through brambles etc. Your German gore-tex army one seems more the ticket. I'm just concerned with sizing when buying stuff remotely as I'd want it to be able to fit over my SJ9 or down jacket in colder wet weather. At same time I don't want it like a tent so can be worn at other times of year.
simon66 simon66
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Post #9 29 Oct 2021 09:15
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Cheers Chuffy - I read before that there were other alternatives to Tennier (I think actually posts you'd written). I'll keep an eye out. As said below my concern if buying something like that particularly if it ends up coming from the US would be sizing and not being able to exchange it. I guess I could always just sell it on if it doesn't fit. It seems the proper ECWCS jackets don't come up often over here and ideally I'd want a new one.
Belch Belch
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Post #10 29 Oct 2021 09:44
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Wouldn't go Paramo - it works in a different way to other fabrics and is better for high exertion activates. . .you need a 3layer fabric - 2/2.5Layer are not as hard wearing and also wet out quicker . . .

Patagonia Torrentshell 3L

simon66 simon66
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Post #11 29 Oct 2021 10:34
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There's a Tennessee Apparel one on ebay atm. Also seller has got a plain green one which I would prob prefer over the camo. So these ones are the real deal then?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224399598873?hash=item343f422519%3Ag%3A%7EFMAAOSw3FZgXIbQ&LH_ItemCondition=3
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #12 29 Oct 2021 13:24
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That looks like the genuine article, bit pricey though, I managed to pick one up on eBay that was practically brand new (you couldn't tell the difference TBH) for about £65 quid when I was over there, if you look at post #115 HERE you will see the one I got. In fact I can put the pictures up here as well



simon66 simon66
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Post #13 29 Oct 2021 13:35
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Looks like you got a right bargain. I want to find one over here though just for ease if it doesn't fit. That one I've posted says can be returned. It's def not cheap but tbh it's far less cost than most jackets I've been considering which were typically starting around £350 for ventile or gore-tex.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #14 29 Oct 2021 13:40
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Yes I think I was bit lucky, it probably helped that I could have it delivered in to an address in the states as they probably weren't prepared to ship overseas. I think mines a Gen II which will be cheaper that the new Gen III
Belch Belch
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Post #15 29 Oct 2021 13:46
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. . .these look good but are they 'heavy' chuffy?
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