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   Old Thread  #112 10 Jan 2019 at 0.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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lol... you know what, the desert camo is actually pretty cool. Looks much better in reality than photos.
My trousers are woodland camo, so Iím starting off a new trend. I will pick up another one in woodland camo when I see one at the right price in my size. Medium short are not so easy to find.
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   Old Thread  #111 9 Jan 2019 at 8.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You mean you actually fooled some folk 'Paulie"
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   Old Thread  #110 9 Jan 2019 at 12.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just think, a bit more effort and you could have found a DPM one instead of desert camo






only kidding
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   Old Thread  #109 8 Jan 2019 at 10.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very good, and well worth the effort to find a new or very lightly used one.
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   Old Thread  #108 8 Jan 2019 at 7.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good aren't they Gary.
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   Old Thread  #107 8 Jan 2019 at 5.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't know if this is any use?
Hoggs Strathmoor jacket link

I use on in winter for both carp and pike fishing, along with the matching trousers.
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   Old Thread  #106 7 Jan 2019 at 8.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had good service from these people. It fits over my Sasquatch.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292485839285.
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   Old Thread  #105 7 Jan 2019 at 6.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Evening gents Iím in the market for a new waterproof jacket to wear Iíve the top of a snugpak sj9 has anyone got a link to source some of the below recommendations?
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   Old Thread  #104 7 Jan 2019 at 11.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
After using my Tennier ecwcs gen1, Iíd recommend it to anyone.
You wonít find a better constructed jacket.
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   Old Thread  #103 7 Jan 2019 at 5.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Retape the seams if it is a Gore-Tex or like material & then wash it in NikWax Tech-Wash to reproof it. You can get iron on seam tape from most good outdoor or camping shops, same with the NikWax. This is how I reproof all my Gore-Tex or similar jackets if they start leaking. Much cheaper than going out & buying a brand new Gore-Tex jacket that's for sure! Think I paid £25 delivered for my last Soldier95 patterned DPM Gore-Tex jacket (no pockets & roll away hood) off of eBay, £6 or so for the NikWax Tech-Wash & the tapes didn't need replacing, just reironing down again so the wife done that in 20 minutes. As long as it is kept clean & has the mesh or other membrane lining (required on ALL such materials to stop water wicking through the pores in the breathable material), you will be dry.
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   Old Thread  #102 28 Dec 2018 at 1.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Desert camo is actually not bad.
Very impressive jacket brand new, still had the tags on it.
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   Old Thread  #101 28 Dec 2018 at 1.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You know it makes sense Gary

Desert camo.... Ohhhhhhhh well
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   Old Thread  #100 26 Dec 2018 at 11.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Couldnít resist, just picked up a brand new Tennier gen1 jacket.
Only down side, but itís minor really is itís desert camo and not woodland.
Iím not too worried about that, (Iím sure the carp wonít mind lol) more concerned about keeping warm and dry.
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   Old Thread  #99 20 Dec 2018 at 10.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Get a photo of an ultra cool young thing, sitting cross legged, on a really low bedchair. If he has tattoos and a beard, winner winner, steak for dinner.

This jacket could break all records, sell for £10k.
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   Old Thread  #98 20 Dec 2018 at 10.27am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just call it a carp fishing jacket and double your money. Iím sure some millennial will buy it
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   Old Thread  #97 19 Dec 2018 at 7.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Might put it on with subsurface vol1 in one pocket, TA long baiting needle and trakker water bottle in the other.. buy it now, a grand
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   Old Thread  #96 19 Dec 2018 at 5.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím going over in May, Iíd better bring a few back
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   Old Thread  #95 19 Dec 2018 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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One in the UK (lying about being the real deal) as Gary pointed out, well spotted Gary.

Noj, there is currently no Tennier Industries ECWCS mk1 available on fleabay in the UK. If you have a mint one... It will sell really well.

Put it on at a starting bid of £100- £150, watch the bids fly in. Every time I see some cool young thing recently, they all have one of these jackets on. Word has spread. None on fleabay UK tells a story to. When I bought mine, they had tonnes on there from same seller. Listed as Grade 1 second hand. Mine still had the issue tags on, and had never been worn.

If yours is mint, it will go for very good money.
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   Old Thread  #94 19 Dec 2018 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Mine is literally as new.. canít remember the size but might start an optimistic buy it now ad on the bay
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Having had one for six years... If I ever need one, I will happily pay full US RRP, and all the import taxes if I can't get one in as new condition. And get a new one shipped over. That will probably cost me a fortune, don't care, worth every penny and more.

I'd happily pay £150 for a mint second hand one in my exact size. Worth every penny.
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   Old Thread  #92 19 Dec 2018 at 3.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Depends where you are. If you shop in the states, you can pick up a mint one from 50-100 bucks. Thereís an abundance of them there. Youíll likely pay more or the same for a tatty one in the UK. Sometimes bargains come up. The gen1 are getting old now, but a very good jacket for fishing or outdoors stuff.
You know theyíre good when everyone tries to copy them.
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   Old Thread  #91 19 Dec 2018 at 2.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
How much is a mint genuine issue ecwcs worth then?
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   Old Thread  #90 19 Dec 2018 at 2.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah, he doesnít know what heís selling mate... the label in the photoís says Tennessee Apparel.
They are the same though anyway.
Like you say, better to go with a minter from the states, thereís plenty of them over there, especially in the large size.
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100% GENUINE US ARMY / SOF sf / SOCOM / US NAVY SEAL TEAM DEVGRU NSW UDT ISSUE WITH ISSUE LABEL inside and nsn number on it . made in usa by TENNIER INDUSTRIES

GENUINE ISSUE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH THE RUBBISH COPYS ! 10000% GENUINE ISSUE AND MADE FROM GORETEX A LOT OF THE ISSUE ONES HAVE IT PRINTED ON INSIDE TENNIER ONES DO NOT BUT IT IS REAL GORETEX AND REAL ISSUE ONE !

"THIS IS THE BEST WINTER OUTDOOR JACKET FOR MILITARY USE ANY WERE , ALL THE SAME FEATURES AS A TOP OF THE RANGE MOUNTAIN JACKET ... 2 WAY FRONT ZIP DOUBLE STORM FLAP , INNER DROP LINER WITH INNER SNOW SKIRT , UNDER ARM VENT ZIPS . SLEEVE POCKET , 2 LARGE HAND POCKETS , 2 VELCRO HIDDEN FULL SIZE CHEST POCKETS , RENFORCED ELBOWS , FRONT RANK TAB , LARGE HOOD BIG ENUF TO GO OVER HELMET !

WORN BY US ARMY IN MOUNTAIN & ARCTIC CONDITION'S ..... IDEAL AS MOUNTENEERING JACKET OR ANY OUT DOOR WEAT WEATHER USE ...

CONDITION = IT HAS USE N WEAR AS IN THE 12 PICTURES , THE VELCRO ON POCKET FLAPS IS WORN N PULLED AWAY AT EDGE BUT STILL OOK N GOT STUD BACK UP , THERE IS SOME BUBBLES TO THE GORETEX IN PLACES OVER THE PARKA , ONE SMALL CM SIZE REPAIR ON LOWER BACK AS IN PICTURE 11 ITS BEN GORE SEAM SEALED INSIDE SO FINE NOW AND WILL NOT LET WATER IN . STILL A GOOD PARKA AS IN PICTURES

SIZE = LARGE LONG = LABEL SAYS TO FIT 41" - 45" CHEST ( BUT THEY ARE MADE BIGGER TO GO OVER UNIFORM IN COLD WEATHER ) HEIGHT O 71" TALL PERSON AND TALLER . BUT THEY ARE MADE ON THE LARGER SIZE TO GO OVER A UNIFORM AND WARM KIT PLEASE GO OFF THE MEASUREMENTS

( MEASURES - 26.5 " ARM PIT TO PIT / SLEEVE IS 28" FROM ARM PIT TO CUFF END / 31" BASE OF COLLAR TO HEM )"

That's the description of that link mate. He says it's a Tennier. I got mine brand spanking new from a UK seller for £80. It had never been worn. Them days are long gone now. You will get one from the states though as you say in perfect nick.

So I totally agree about US Ebay. I'd pay the high postage for a mint nick one if I needed one, they sort the customs payment to. Everyone might not have the money like us though. If I only had £50 to spend, I'd buy that jacket hands down. It's so much better than anything else for £50.
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   Old Thread  #88 19 Dec 2018 at 11.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Paulie, That one youíve linked is made by Tennessee Apparel, but yes the same as the Tennier.
I recommend people check out eBay in the US, I bought one in almost new condition for 50dollars.
Yes, thereís a shipping fee, but thereís many more to choose from and a lot of new old stock, or barely used ones.
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   Old Thread  #87 18 Dec 2018 at 4.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-USarmy-ECWCS-USA-woodland-CAMO-gore-tex-goretex-PARKA-COAT-JACKET-L-L/283226164887?hash=item41f1984e97:g:uTAAAOSwc1ZbwJNv:rk:1:pf:0#viTabs_0

No, not really. I've had French, Dutch, and German army Gor-Tex, as well as British. None of them are as good in my opinion.

There's an ECWCS Tennier industries jacket on that link. It looks in okay nick. It's a Large/long. It says it has a proper repair to one seam inside.

If I was looking for a waterproof jacket, and that size fitted me... I'd make them an offer for that one, probably get it for 45 notes. It's the only UK one on there right now. Loads in the US, some look in excellent nick, but expensive postage. Wash it in plain water, in the machine, it will be as good as new. They last forever.
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   Old Thread  #86 18 Dec 2018 at 4.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Are the French Army cce any good?
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   Old Thread  #85 18 Dec 2018 at 2.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Also just picked up a NOS Tennier ecwcs gen1 bear jacket (fleece).
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No that was the customer mate. He was spending a lot of money, so he could do what he wanted basically

I still have no clue why the others were all using the photo. Or even where they got it from. Oh well. As I said, the internet, and fishing, can be quite strange places sometimes.

I'm sure they will be wicked Gary, better than Chuffy's anyway
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   Old Thread  #82 16 Dec 2018 at 7.08am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I just bought ecwcs gen1 trousers and jacket. Couldnít find Tennier in my size (medium short) so went for Tennessee apparel corp, which I hear are also very good, and are made to the exact same spec with same materials are Tenniers gear.
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   Old Thread  #81 16 Dec 2018 at 0.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No probs Chuffy happy to help
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Cool, mine should be here Monday.
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   Old Thread  #79 15 Dec 2018 at 12.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Didn't someone post on your FB work page, and their profile pic was one of yours.....?
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If it's who I think it is (I'm probably wrong), he turned up on my works business page on social media, just after I joined this forum and someone had guessed who I was. I had to delete his comment, he was trying to advertise his own thing you see.

I supposed that it's like dogs a bit, I came to 'his territory' as he saw it, and wee'd on a lamppost. So I suppose he needed to do the same. Thing is, I've made hundreds of posts on his lamppost, not mentioned anything like 'that' about my thing. He made one post on my lamppost, and had to mention his thing. (to get a bit of free advertising).

Ah well, as the kids say... Bothered.

I have another funny story for you. There's a bloke, who used to terrorise forums (this one included I'd bet). He bought some stuff from me years ago, and like a few others, tried to do the same himself, set up a little business. It did not work out for him, so now... He follows me around when I post on social media to do with work. He's always got a funny little quip or comment. Never met the bloke, but he's fixated on me obviously. Fishing is a funny old game, and it attracts all sorts. So does the internet.

Three years ago, there was six different users on Facebook using one of my fishing photographs as a profile photo. Four were English, two were European based blokes. One was a customer of mine it turned out, so i put that down to he must of liked me or something. I have zero clue why the other five had my photo as their profile picture, none at all. Why would you? SSV1 is my only guess, it was mainly a photo from that. But I'm clueless really.

I hope the jacket works out for you Chuffy.
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   Old Thread  #77 15 Dec 2018 at 2.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
had a mk1 ECWS like mark and as he said, they're great. mine is about 12 years old now and has started leaking this year so I need to give it a treatment and stick it in the tumble dryer again.

one of my friends has a set of the canadian breathtex digital waterproof gear and it looks superb. the closest I have seen to the mk 1's .

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tcpcrewontour is still about and catching them everywhere he goes.

he has an excellent account on instagram which is worth a follow.
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Well the Large has turned up and itís perfect 👌

Thanks sunnymead and dickweed for the recommendation
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I think I know who you are on about...
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Thanks mate. The name Mark Casper actually came about because of something in that last post in fact. The bait firm I was using back then wanted some exposure. I'd just caught a lot from Sutton in double quick time. So that was deemed perfect by them. I was asked if they could put the photos in Carp-Talk. I'd never done that sort of thing really, so said he could, but he had to use a different name. My dogs name was picked, as random as you like. Fast forwards to the RMC forum and TCarper. As soon as a photo was seen of me, I was Mark Casper. I never said it to anyone, but everyone assumed obviously that it was my real name. I was winning a lot of money online at the same time, and having accounts shut left right and centre. So Mark Casper stuck. I've been on the front cover of Carpworld, and in Subsurface as Mark Casper. People (anglers) call me Casper all the time. It was my dogs name, my then eight year old son picked it, as he loved the film Casper the friendly ghost. I loved the dog more than anything, hated the name when he picked it. How bloody ironic!

Imagine walking around a supermarket with a woman, who only knows you by your real name ovbiously. When a carper recognises you from where or whatever, and actually spits out the name "Mark Casper". What happens is, said woman is convinced that you are in fact, a massive liar, and leading a double life where you're married to someone else. It's not good anyway. You have to start showing them carp magazines with you in under that name, and explaining things double quickly.
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Yes, an excellent poster. The likes of whom I have not read for a while....at least since the rmc days!
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Keep posting Mark. You have an alternative view of most things, which is damn refreshing.
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Thank you. TCP was nothing to do with me though. I think I know who that was though. TCarper was the first time I ventured onto the internet. I was a late starter (2005 or 6 I think), and was always to busy as a plasterer before that. I had an enforced year at home. Hence TCarper was born. No internet for me before then, and TCP was about long before that. Just two letters the same... And we both fished Sutton at different times. Not me though
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It was the gambling that gave it away for me don't know any other anglers that are successful gamblers
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likes the sound of his own keyboard????
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   Old Thread  #67 11 Dec 2018 at 8.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I bought medium as well. To be fair as an everyday jacket it was probably fine but like you, my.movement was restricted when I put it over my Sleeka. I will swap for a large
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By distinctive style do you mean long and rambling?
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Same here, they seem to be cut more to Ďproperí size than the army ones and definitely shorter in the body. I got a Medium which fitted me fine if I didnít put anything bulky underneath it. I tried it over my SJ9 and immediately noticed it was also a bit short in the arms and too tight, sent it back and exchanged it for a Large, see what thatís like when it turns up, looked like very good quality though
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Dont know if the thread is too far off track now but I bought a Highlander Tempest based on the earlier posts and it came yesterday, looks great but seems a bit short in the body, long enough in the arms though. Will send it back for a larger size
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The best thing about the whole'Mark-Not Mark' thing is he posts on here for the first time in 12 years under another name and secret-agent spots him straight away, very apt

Probably wouldn't remember after 12 years! As Sir B said below, there was a private forum a few years ago that a few of us were members of, sadly closed now. Paulie J let slip quite early on here who he was. People find it hard to hide the way they post. There is a banned member with a distinct style posting regularly on here as well, surprised he hasn't been rumbled yet???
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Seem like only yesterday
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TC and Jazz hands.... The good 'ol days.....
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Wasn't an even early one something like TCP Crew on the old Cemex Forum? Always a good read Mark, garlic hemp, coked tigers and washing lines....
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Secret-agent obviously knows his onions. There were others via PM

I was also addressed as TCarper, for the first time in donkeys years
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Obviously led a sheltered life

The best thing about the whole'Mark-Not Mark' thing is he posts on here for the first time in 12 years under another name and secret-agent spots him straight away, very apt
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One of the funniest actors going Chuffy. I love him. How did you not know that!
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I'm still in shock since my wife pointed out to me some time ago that 'Marky Mark' is actually Mark Wahlberg, never knew that, but then why would I
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Mark Casper, Ken. SSV1 said so, and CW to. It's only a name. It's only fishing. You ovbiously read what i wrote on another post mate.

This is Casper below (the friendly ghost), unfortunately he died a couple of years ago, but he was my best fishing buddy for thirteen years.

Getting money on a horse means far more to me, than being a little bit 'famous' for fishing. Plus I absolutely detest my 'father', why the hell would I use the scum bags name, when as a fisherman, he would hopefully see me using my dogs name instead at some point. Perfick. I hope it made him choke personally. That's just a bonus though, it's because all of my internet activity, will be scoped. Not because I'm a criminal. Everyone who knows me in real life knows my real name, it's no secret. It just can never be linked to my internet activity, because that also involves gambling. Because I'm a bit good maybe sometimes, at relieving bookmakers of money. They have a lot of technology these days, to stop people like me. So it becomes harder and harder to get the money on. Exchanges are no good, they are to last minute.

I have zero criminal record at all. I still hold a valid UK gaming license, in my real name, can't have a record to get one of those anyway, even family counts. It's just not in my interests to use my real name online.

Casper

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Lovely little mover, and now it seems he can catch carp as well!.

Could you get the boss to send me some more of those CRVs?
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Mark=PaulieJ
I suspect it's the same Mark the gambling man who used to frequent Ukkippercaperers
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Mark My Words
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Mark who...
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Just be sly like me Chuffy if you don't go before Summer. Amazon always have a big sale every Summer, when no one in the UK wants, or thinks about Baffin Trappers... They sell them dirt cheap in those sales all of the time on Amazon uk. I got mine for buttons. If you buy them in December when every other sod does... £130-£150.

They are easy to get hold of cheap, the Tennier ECWCS mk1 is not really though mate, not brand new.

Merrell Moab GTX hiking shoes/trainers/boots. Pick up some snazzy ones of those for Summer, if you can pick them up cheap whilst in the states. Like most of this US and Canadian stuff, their UK marked size is not the same as ours. Half or a full size up on marked UK size to what you normally wear.
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   Old Thread  #49 11 Dec 2018 at 10.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm going to have a look for some Baffin Trappers as well, I should start taking orders
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That would definitely be the one Chuffy, or should I say jetsetter.
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****ing jetsetter.
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Well there is that

Iíll have a look when Iím Sateside next
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I bet you hate me a little bit. I mean, I bet you're a tiny little bit tempted to sell that jacket you just got now, aren't you? .

Sell it, send it back, get one of them US ones mate. Go lovely with sallopettes and waders
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I love you too Mark, in a way
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I think you'll find I never once denied who I was, I just never admitted it. It was fun for a bit, the guesses were, Ian Russell, Gary Bayes, Steve Reynard, etc, etc, and there were plenty. I denied every single one of those, but never who I actually am to those who got it right. When you own a business in fishing, everyone presumes you want to subliminal advertise. I don't. You'll never hear me mention it, ever, like you have not since I've been here. Don't need to. I'm only doing it now in any small shape or form to explain to you. I've actually given away some real gems on the bait section of this forum if they were picked up whilst having 'fun'. I'm here as a member same as you.

I love you to Chuffy anyway
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So why all the ĎIím not Mark, Iím not Markí, when you are clearly.........Mark
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   Old Thread  #41 10 Dec 2018 at 4.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have the exact same coat, a tennier one. Canít fault it, shame itís camo
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Minter than me . I was very pleased with it mate. It's actually on a very easy ticket to get (and very busy now, empty when I fished it very briefly).
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I was told no Gary. They both had the licence, but I've been told it's the Tennier stuff that is better, in that it lasts for ever. Six years after being told that i agree totally. I have no experience of this myself, but it's what I was told by someone who knows. It's still real Gor-Tex, and should be real Gor-Tex taped seams. But I was told to get Tennier. If I could not get a Tennier, I'd still get what you said i think.
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No idea mate but it's mint innit
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The tennier and Tennessee industries from the same vintage (gen 1) look identical, with the same seals.
Is there any difference between them? I donít think there is
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Thank you, it's an alright photo, I was pleased with it. And as I said on the post, it's the last time I ever wore a British DPM waterproof jacket.

Where's this one from Yonny? Don't say the name as is, if you know, second part of name will do. I don't fish there no more it's to busy, this is an old photo. But no need to mess it up anymore than it already is for those that do, I'll get hate mail.

I have the ECWCS jacket on in this photo, the one that you should all buy if you don't have one. Sell your wife if you have to. You all have a snugpak/fortis these days... This is what goes over the top. (I make no money from the sale of these jackets at all). I have a white tee shirt on to in this photo, you're not meant to do that. I wear white tee shirts fishing all of the time. Rebel.

Last one anyway, no more photos, I'll only post one which will get me in trouble. I'm a pike fisherman now.

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   Old Thread  #35 10 Dec 2018 at 3.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lol
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   Old Thread  #34 10 Dec 2018 at 3.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah but once you know it, you know it.

Nice colours BTW
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Thanks mate, Rob Hales Monument.



I'm just chuffed I managed to actually post a photo. It was actually making my brain ache. (Yes it is mate).
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What a fish mate. Awesome.

Roach?
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I just worked it out as you posted that mate thank you. I had to join some hosting site to do it, and then use every bit of my little brain to suss it... But I did get there, eventually, it just took a while

But thank you.
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Edit
was going to do it for you but managed it yourself
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Told you I'd mess it up!

Edit... Give the idiot a prize
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I have no clue if this will work or not, I'm not all that computer savvy really, I looked at how to post a pic, but it probably will not work knowing me

This is the last photo taken of me, with a British Army gor-tex on. It's an old photo now, within a few weeks of it being taken, I had purchased a Tennier Industries woodland. The exact same jacket I still have now. I loved this jacket in the photo, it was quality. But it was quality, for only a years hard use, no more really as it started to leak. The same as any one, of the very many I had before did. Great for a year or two, then not great. If you're into buying stuff that lasts forever, get yourself a Tennier US Woodland parka. The MK1 ECWCS. It's an incredible jacket at whatever price. Ten times the jacket I'm wearing in this photo (if it worked). I never buy anything that I'm impressed with as much as I am about one of these jackets for fishing. If they had a fishing name on, they would be £1000. They are made for the US military, you know them crazy mofos who like to have the very best of everything 'war'. Well they got it damn right with that jacket I think. There are so many copies (like the one in this photo), none are anywhere near the real ECWCS.

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They come in different fits mate I'm pretty certain, mine is a standard fit, I'm a short arse. If you get a long fit, they have longer arms and body in the same size. I personally am an expert at buying things online, and finding out mine does not fit me. Then forgetting to send it back most times. I have a cupboard full of the stuff, and a drawer full of unused returns forms. Internet retailers must love people like me. Get another one from him at that sort of price, go for a long fit.

Good jackets are't they. I have tons of old photos, with a British DPM jacket on. I'm the most patriotic person, I love my country. But the US army get better quality gear in my opinion. The jacket I have now, it's as good as new. I'd have needed three Euro versions in the same time. I 'might' never need to buy another waterproof jacket for fishing again, unless I grow out of it
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   Old Thread  #26 8 Dec 2018 at 7.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I got my tennier ecwcs (gor-tex stamped on the seems) for £40. Issued but unused. There's a chap near me who works on one of the American bases and can get his hands on most stuff. He's got a loft full of it. My only complaint is that the sleeves are a bit short when it's worn over a softie.
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Whatís the sizing like with the Gen1 Tennier gear?
Ive seen a set in small and if the fit is generous, could work for me
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Thanks for that Rob. I'm probably not the best at explaining myself. I know the person who bought one from the states got stung right up by the import duty he said. After having one for six years, I'd definitely pay full whack for one I think if they are still available new.

For winter carp fishing, that jacket is the mutts nuts. I never wear the trousers in reality, but purchased them second hand, in as new condition for £75 from fleabay. Probably a bit expensive second hand, but they were mint, and my exact size.

I only need a Sleeka under that jacket, in the very coldest weather.
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Got a virtually unused/unworn Tennier Desert pattern ECWS coat with snow skirt a couple of years ago off the Bay for @£80...Fantastic bit of kit on its own..paired with a heavy fleece jacket it really is the mutts dangly bits Incredibly warm and draught /water proof. Also have some British DPM gore trousers.Again very good.Mine have drawcord waist/velcro fly and zip up half legs.No leaking seams and they have had some serious wear,traipsing thru brambles etc when luring on the rivers etc.The Dutch gore trousers are very similar but a slightly diffrent /darker DPM pattern and they roll up into their own pocket for storage .

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Forces uniforms and kit .co.uk do some dpm jackets very similar to British army.

However if u read the small print they r not Gore-Tex despite the main pic showing the official vortex label.

Bit misleading if u ask me.

They r brand new and not official army stock.
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Ok, I see the confusion.

Your Gen 1 is still available. It is issued to non combat units. It is on the list as $302. The newer models are cheaper as they have been "de-cluttered" to suit operational requirements. You don't need pockets in combat

Over time, designs change and the latest Gen 3 is a light weight packable item, more suited to combat operation than the Gen 1 which is to "fussy".

The British Army have a Gen 1 version that actually came out recently! We do things the other way round, starting with what is required in combat, and then up design to suit more static roles

Ours have all the pockets and liners etc but is only issued for routine wear, not combat. So, drivers, guards, use around camp on the ranges etc. You will recognise it as it has a black liner.

Anyway, you have a good bit of kit and you paid a fair price. Sorry we were at cross purposes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWmTgud0DY

I can't do links Rob. But if you watch this video, it compares a Tennier Industries Gen 1 (my exact jacket), with a Tennier Industries Gen 3, side by side. You can clearly see that the Gor-Tex is much thicker on my jacket mate. The bloke shows it. (I nearly cried when he said he paid $5). The newer versions do not have the Gor-Tex stamped sealed tapes either. And that's a Tennier Industries jacket too. The newer ones do not look as good as my older one I have to my eye. And in actual use, my one is different gravy, over many years hard use.

That's why they are sort after mate I'd say. I'll get another in an instant. If you see one of them exact jackets made by Tennier Industries for £150 brand new in this country, please tell me, I'll buy two.
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That's a different jacket I think Rob, made by someone else. It's not a Tennier Industries one. I paid £80 for mine. A then friend, loved mine and wanted one there and then. He went through the rigmarole of importing one, the same one I had. It cost him the price I quoted, five years ago, that's what he told me. I had an ECWCS before the jacket I had now. It was great, for two years, then leaked like a sieve. It was fake Gor-Tex. There are tonnes of fake Gor-Tex jackets about, copies of what I have.

I have no clue how much a Tennier Industries one would cost brand new now. It might be much cheaper. I doubt it, and there are very many many copies. A good second hand one will go for £100 still on ebay. I watched one a few weeks ago.

I've had the British versions, lots of them, they are gash in reality Rob, great for six months hard use, but then that's it. The Tennier Industries, real Gor-Tex jackets last a life time. Not five minutes, sorry. You're very obviously more expert than me on this issue. But with what i've used, in so many years hard fishing, nothing comes close to the jacket I have now. I've never known Tennier Industries jackets to be sold in this country in shops. If they do, it will be a mssive touch for me when I need another mate!
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Sorry...I have to comment on this...

The cost for the new Generation 3 ECWCS parka is $132.23 according to the NATO stock list. If you want an "outsize" version, it is $145. You say you paid £80 for a woodland version, That is the older Gen 2 and 6 years ago was being phased out so that price would have been about right. The latest version can be found in UK stores for £150 new or about £80-90 used.

I am issued the lightweight hoodless and the hooded "temperate" MVP jackets and I too can easily lay in a puddle ..and regularly do on the ranges. :( To cross a river we wear gaiters to seal off the bottom of the trousers and then wade across. Sorted.

Please do not confuse Goretex, a brand name, with MVP membranes. All British Army MVP jackets use a Gore Industries membrane, but not Goretex.

The jacket you have is for use in snow and ice. The softer outer is more resistant to snow clinging to it. The outer material for standard waterproofs is a hard shell as this is more resistant to mud and rain. The UK issue parka for arctic use is the same as the ECWCS parka, but in MTP camo. It is not marked goretex because the UK military do not allow "advertising" on its kit. The only exception is with boots. This is because current issue boots are a civilian design and therefore available in shops as a new product, not a surplus one.

Snugpak make our thermals and sleep system. No name.
Buffalo and Montane make smocks, no branding
Karrimor make out day sacks, no branding.
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   Old Thread  #17 7 Dec 2018 at 12.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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400 quid! Even the Gen III jackets are about half that price on EBay.
I do agree about the US stuff being very good.
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Sorry, can't help with a Sten gun..lol
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All of the British army Gor-Tex jackets are gash these days. Fake Gor-Tex.

Very few companies actually have a licence to use this material on jackets.

If you want the very best, get a US Army, Tennier Industries made, Gor-Tex woodland Parka. If you get one brand new from the States, with import duty you will pay close to £400/£450. I got a brand spanking new one from fleabay for £80, because I'm a lucky sausage, and they was no where near as sort after then.

I got the trousers too. Both are proper Gor-Tex, I've stood at Walthamstow on the 2/3 on a cold February day, it rained non stop for nine hours, hard. I was bone dry. This gear, you could lay in a puddle.

Even the tapes are all stamped with Gor-Tex (R), the main material too. I've had mine for six years now, it's never been treated, it's been washed with just plain water. I can go lay in a puddle in it right now, and not get wet. It's soft, makes no noise and is comfy. Buy once, buy quality. So many top carpers have this exact jacket now, I smile when I see the photos.... I would never ever buy any other waterproof jacket, not a chance.

I've had roughly 7-8 British Army or other Euro versions. All gash, there is only one. The rest are poor copies.
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   Old Thread  #14 6 Dec 2018 at 3.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Best Jacket I have brought 👍
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   Old Thread  #13 6 Dec 2018 at 2.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks for the offer Rob, I have actually ordered one of the Highlander jackets. Since I was a kid though I have always fancied a Sten Gun......
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   Old Thread  #12 6 Dec 2018 at 1.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No probs. What are you after and I might be able to help

Depends if the Quarter Master is about over Christmas lol
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   Old Thread  #11 6 Dec 2018 at 10.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks Alan, that looks the same as the Highlander then

Also thanks for the info Rob
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   Old Thread  #10 6 Dec 2018 at 8.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cant get anymore . The ones i had were AB- Tex "Gortex" but under another name

If you want another one here's a link

https://www.cadetdirect.com/military-waterproof-jacket-dpm
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   Old Thread  #9 6 Dec 2018 at 8.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hmmmm Are you talking about waterproof ones?

As far as I know, there were three "nylon" waterproofs...possibly what you mean by shiney?

The first were based on the olive green NI jacket. Super bits of kit as long as you did not move!

Next generation were a single skinned jacket with flapped pockets.

Then came the lined version that had a black inner, again with flapped pockets.

The first generation Goretex jackets had no pockets.

Second had a slit pocket under the flap and I think, two front pockets.

Like any jacket, they will require reproofing and any used items are washed before they come on the market, and that can affect the waterproofing. Spray with a proofer and they will be as good as new.
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   Old Thread  #8 5 Dec 2018 at 9.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had one without pockets, leaked after 10 minutes of rain 👎
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   Old Thread  #7 5 Dec 2018 at 8.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looking at the tempest it looks more like the one I had that the mice ruined
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   Old Thread  #6 5 Dec 2018 at 8.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Another vote for the highlander tempest. Had mine ten years. Itís never let a drop of water through in ten years
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   Old Thread  #5 5 Dec 2018 at 8.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thereís is loads of versions, thereís windproof smocks , shower proof , jungle variants and all sorts. Same with softie jackets.

The Shiny ones are also a heavier ripstop type material and really hard wearing.
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   Old Thread  #4 5 Dec 2018 at 8.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just get the highlander tempest jacket,not a lot of money and fully waterproof,I've had the army ones,totally pants
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   Old Thread  #3 5 Dec 2018 at 7.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I found the only way to guarantee the army ones are waterproof is to buy new. Even the A grade ones leak. None of mine have pockets..
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   Old Thread  #2 5 Dec 2018 at 6.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Slightly off track, try using a Poncho in weather like today. Then swap for your gortex once you have set up / sheltered.
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   Old Thread  #1 5 Dec 2018 at 6.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
How many different versions of these are there?

Reason I ask is I originally had one I bought off Flipper_Al on here, that was a shinier material and had pockets on it. That one the mice had though itís still useable and it was totally waterproof. I recently got another one off eBay, slightly different material, not as shiny and no pockets. Anyway, just had this one on for most of the afternoon setting up in the rain and in certain areas itís leaked, bugger!!

So, what am I looking for to make sure I get the proper waterproof version?
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