Im not going to make out i can cast 120yards because i dont think i can, but can anyone give me or others any tips/tricks on improving distance.
I know a lot of it is down to pratice but ill be doing that this winter when my club lake is quiet as its about 30acres so can get some pratice in then but any pointers to help improve would be greatful.
Grolly
I know a lot of it is down to pratice but ill be doing that this winter when my club lake is quiet as its about 30acres so can get some pratice in then but any pointers to help improve would be greatful.
Grolly
In reply to Post #1
Lots of vids on you tube. Terry Edmonds and mark Hutchinson and several others too. Most of them give similar advice on technique. There are others with a different style such as Frank Warwick and Nick Helleuer. But most people follow T.E or M.H.
Lots of vids on you tube. Terry Edmonds and mark Hutchinson and several others too. Most of them give similar advice on technique. There are others with a different style such as Frank Warwick and Nick Helleuer. But most people follow T.E or M.H.
You need suitable equipment to hit the distances you require, including line and leaders for safety. Lots on previous threads here about all aspects of distance casting, gear and combinations etc.
Watch the YouTube vids for technique and practise, and enjoy 👍
Watch the YouTube vids for technique and practise, and enjoy 👍
Try this stance for maximum power... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEQOXSv0z9Y
It feels odd at first, once you get used to it, it gets you hips moving correctly and works a treat
It feels odd at first, once you get used to it, it gets you hips moving correctly and works a treat
Decent rods, suitable reels, suitable line diameter ( tapered 12lb 0.33 korda line for example) and watch some vids on youtube for the correct action. Cheap rods that cast well are Shimano intensity TX2', a rod well recommended by TE himself.. 
Agreed with all that has been mentioned.
The key for me was confidence. Having the confidence to really compress and crank up the rod with power, you can have all the technique in the world but ultimately it's the power that you put through that blank gets you the distance.
My mate went on the TE tuition for half a day. What Terry taught in a few hours was gold dust, you really have to see that guy in the flesh to see how much power he generates, youtube vis doesn't do it justice. If you have a few quid to spare, get yourself onto one those.
The key for me was confidence. Having the confidence to really compress and crank up the rod with power, you can have all the technique in the world but ultimately it's the power that you put through that blank gets you the distance.
My mate went on the TE tuition for half a day. What Terry taught in a few hours was gold dust, you really have to see that guy in the flesh to see how much power he generates, youtube vis doesn't do it justice. If you have a few quid to spare, get yourself onto one those.
In reply to Post #6
Will echo that - I had a session with TE a couple of weeks ago . . .
I'm a self confessed sh*te caster but first chuck with my own 12ft 3.25 TX2 (not my normal day to day rods - use these for beachcaster floater fishing only) with 0.37 straight through I hit 110yards with a 3oz lead!
Managed to hit 145yds with his budget eastern european 13ft rod and my bigpit with 0.37 and a 4oz by the end of the session . . .the technique was a little alien at first and def room for further improvement - the man is a genius!
Will echo that - I had a session with TE a couple of weeks ago . . .
I'm a self confessed sh*te caster but first chuck with my own 12ft 3.25 TX2 (not my normal day to day rods - use these for beachcaster floater fishing only) with 0.37 straight through I hit 110yards with a 3oz lead!
Managed to hit 145yds with his budget eastern european 13ft rod and my bigpit with 0.37 and a 4oz by the end of the session . . .the technique was a little alien at first and def room for further improvement - the man is a genius!
In reply to Post #7
Did TE teach using the technique in the earlier video on this thread?
Did TE teach using the technique in the earlier video on this thread?
In reply to Post #8
One guy on here mentioned that Terry had taught him the linked stance. Terry taught me his normal stance when I went to see him. I could never get on with it even though I was hitting 150yds or so with 16lb mono straight through. Tried the stance I linked to, much better, added 20yds to my cast with a shock leader, think I'd changed line to 15lb Syncro XT. Don't know how much a difference the two lines made it all as they were the same dia.
One thing I will say about fishing at range, anything over say an arbitrary 120yds is a serious pain in the arse. For fishing singles at showing fish it's a great tool in your armoury, putting a decent bed of bait around three or four rods can be a proper c.nt, and then there's the wind that ball's it all up. You might have been pre baiting at 150yds and got 20kg in during the week...good times, and then when you come to fish you get a 30mph side wind, so much sadface, no cigar 🤬
One guy on here mentioned that Terry had taught him the linked stance. Terry taught me his normal stance when I went to see him. I could never get on with it even though I was hitting 150yds or so with 16lb mono straight through. Tried the stance I linked to, much better, added 20yds to my cast with a shock leader, think I'd changed line to 15lb Syncro XT. Don't know how much a difference the two lines made it all as they were the same dia.
One thing I will say about fishing at range, anything over say an arbitrary 120yds is a serious pain in the arse. For fishing singles at showing fish it's a great tool in your armoury, putting a decent bed of bait around three or four rods can be a proper c.nt, and then there's the wind that ball's it all up. You might have been pre baiting at 150yds and got 20kg in during the week...good times, and then when you come to fish you get a 30mph side wind, so much sadface, no cigar 🤬
In reply to Post #8
. . .kind of - he takes you through several steps (after looking at your 'regular' carpers cast) and then works towards the step.
Hand/Body position and rocking / weight forward is the initial thing to master, together with snap and releasing at the right moment . . .I found the resting feet position very unbalanced at first.
He then works on handspeed and the push pull movement in conjunction with weight transfer . . .
Its a bit like a golf swing lesson . . .most of us can hit it but when body mechanics (and bad habits) are adjusted it feels totally alien at first . . .
. . .kind of - he takes you through several steps (after looking at your 'regular' carpers cast) and then works towards the step.
Hand/Body position and rocking / weight forward is the initial thing to master, together with snap and releasing at the right moment . . .I found the resting feet position very unbalanced at first.
He then works on handspeed and the push pull movement in conjunction with weight transfer . . .
Its a bit like a golf swing lesson . . .most of us can hit it but when body mechanics (and bad habits) are adjusted it feels totally alien at first . . .
In reply to Post #1
Hi Oliver,
A "named" angler where I was living once told me that the best money he ever spent on fishing was casting lessons. Rods, reels, line etc have a finite life, but the lessons he took were a lifetime investment
Something to ponder maybe
Best
Jon
Hi Oliver,
A "named" angler where I was living once told me that the best money he ever spent on fishing was casting lessons. Rods, reels, line etc have a finite life, but the lessons he took were a lifetime investment
Something to ponder maybe
Best
Jon
All well and good getting lessons with a tutor using high end kit as you'll have the technique but unless you have adequate equipment you won't be able to utilise your skills.
I'd suggest ensuring your kit is adequate and practice yourself first, if you feel you still need help then tutor away.
This does not mean getting a set of £400+ ea high end rods and mags either. A decent casting rod can be brought for less than £100 and just about any large spooled pit reel will suffice used with a tapered line or a leader. The korda 12lb 0.33 diameter tapered mainline or similar diameter tapered lines cast well and are strong enough for all but extreme location's/conditions.
Using 0.40 line straight through limits everybody's range.
I'd suggest ensuring your kit is adequate and practice yourself first, if you feel you still need help then tutor away.
This does not mean getting a set of £400+ ea high end rods and mags either. A decent casting rod can be brought for less than £100 and just about any large spooled pit reel will suffice used with a tapered line or a leader. The korda 12lb 0.33 diameter tapered mainline or similar diameter tapered lines cast well and are strong enough for all but extreme location's/conditions.
Using 0.40 line straight through limits everybody's range.
In reply to Post #12
Most places that give tutorials you can take your own stuff so what your learning with is what your use
Most places that give tutorials you can take your own stuff so what your learning with is what your use
In reply to Post #13
If your not using kit suitable for long distance casting then what's the point of getting tuition on high end kit casting long distances?.....
Waste of money IMO. Get some suitable kit and take it from there.. If you then need tuition then go for it Tuition can't overcome unsuitable equipment.. 
If your not using kit suitable for long distance casting then what's the point of getting tuition on high end kit casting long distances?.....
Waste of money IMO. Get some suitable kit and take it from there.. If you then need tuition then go for it
Tuition can't overcome unsuitable equipment..
Casting isn't just about out and out distance though, having tuition will also teach you how to put it where you want it accurately. No point having all the gear for casting distance if you put it 10 or 20 yards away from where you want it half the time.
I would also be willing to bet that someone with great technique will be able to put their bait out further and with greater accuracy with a 2.75 TC rod, 3oz lead and 0.35 mono straight through than someone with wonky technique and a big rod.
I would also be willing to bet that someone with great technique will be able to put their bait out further and with greater accuracy with a 2.75 TC rod, 3oz lead and 0.35 mono straight through than someone with wonky technique and a big rod.