Hi guys
Following the forum for some years now, lurking in the background I guess you could say
I have just finished a year session on a new syndicate in the lovely "in-parts" Maldon, Essex. I won't name the syndicate let's just use it's self proclaimed title of.. Home of the 30's & 40's..
Met some real nice people along the way, I'd say 90% of the people on the ticket just want a quiet time fishing with the odd cuppa and chig wag about life in general. 5% want to sit around the bank looking moody because remember the more moody you are the better angler you are, the other 5% I'm pretty sure just go for a few nights camping
QUESTION TIME: Anyhow.. my problem and what I want your advice on, I was sold the ticket in 2019/20 on the premise a 40 had come out. It become evident half way through my membership this was far from the truth, in fact I think it was a 36/37lb absolute max! and the lake doesn't actually hold 40's at all.
Sure so it's partly my fault, I should of done my homework a little bit more but the problem is I don't know to many people in the area to be fair but it feels like they're making a killing on tickets based off of lies.
What would you do? would you of confronted the owner? or would you just leave it all behind and move on. Because at the end of the day, it's not a nice feeling being sold a £400-500 quid ticket and I know has left some feeling quite bitter.
Thanks!
Following the forum for some years now, lurking in the background I guess you could say
I have just finished a year session on a new syndicate in the lovely "in-parts" Maldon, Essex. I won't name the syndicate let's just use it's self proclaimed title of.. Home of the 30's & 40's..
Met some real nice people along the way, I'd say 90% of the people on the ticket just want a quiet time fishing with the odd cuppa and chig wag about life in general. 5% want to sit around the bank looking moody because remember the more moody you are the better angler you are, the other 5% I'm pretty sure just go for a few nights camping
QUESTION TIME: Anyhow.. my problem and what I want your advice on, I was sold the ticket in 2019/20 on the premise a 40 had come out. It become evident half way through my membership this was far from the truth, in fact I think it was a 36/37lb absolute max! and the lake doesn't actually hold 40's at all.
Sure so it's partly my fault, I should of done my homework a little bit more but the problem is I don't know to many people in the area to be fair but it feels like they're making a killing on tickets based off of lies.
What would you do? would you of confronted the owner? or would you just leave it all behind and move on. Because at the end of the day, it's not a nice feeling being sold a £400-500 quid ticket and I know has left some feeling quite bitter.
Thanks!
In reply to Post #1
I'd have a word with myself and re-join if I'd enjoyed fishing there or walk away if I hadn't.
I'd have a word with myself and re-join if I'd enjoyed fishing there or walk away if I hadn't.
In reply to Post #2
Thanks, Is it common practice for venue's to do this? I must admit I haven't come across it in the 20 or so years of fishing I've experienced, maybe I've been lucky.
Thanks, Is it common practice for venue's to do this? I must admit I haven't come across it in the 20 or so years of fishing I've experienced, maybe I've been lucky.
In reply to Post #3
If you've never heard about a lake owner romancing the weights of their stock I'd say you've lived a pretty sheltered life in angling.
If you've never heard about a lake owner romancing the weights of their stock I'd say you've lived a pretty sheltered life in angling.
In reply to Post #3
No it's not common practise mate and they shouldn't advertise a 40 if there is none, but I honestly don't think +/- 3lb in the weight of one single fish should be the measure against which ticket value is determined. It's really no big deal imo.
Weight is not the be-all-and-end-all. If you just want any old 40 there are countless waters round those parts that fit the bill
No it's not common practise mate and they shouldn't advertise a 40 if there is none, but I honestly don't think +/- 3lb in the weight of one single fish should be the measure against which ticket value is determined. It's really no big deal imo.
Weight is not the be-all-and-end-all. If you just want any old 40 there are countless waters round those parts that fit the bill
In reply to Post #5
I totally agree with everything yonny had said there particularly if you enjoy fishing there although the only additional thought i would add is do you feel your paying a premium price for the imaginary 40lber as its quiet common to see ticket price hikes in line with fish sizes unfortunately.
I totally agree with everything yonny had said there particularly if you enjoy fishing there although the only additional thought i would add is do you feel your paying a premium price for the imaginary 40lber as its quiet common to see ticket price hikes in line with fish sizes unfortunately.
In reply to Post #1
Personal answer, I may be a little bit frustrated at being lied to, however if I had enjoyed the fishing and got on with most of the syndicate then I wouldn't cause too much of a fuss.
Most lake owners are adamant there is more in there or bigger in there than has actually been caught. You always here about the monster that has never seen a hook 🤣🤣
The question I suppose has to be why you joined the syndicate. If you just joined it for somewhere to fish and weight isn't your be all and end all, then stay 🙂 if you are there for that opportunity to catch a 40lber, then maybe moving on would be your best bet.
Personal answer, I may be a little bit frustrated at being lied to, however if I had enjoyed the fishing and got on with most of the syndicate then I wouldn't cause too much of a fuss.
Most lake owners are adamant there is more in there or bigger in there than has actually been caught. You always here about the monster that has never seen a hook 🤣🤣
The question I suppose has to be why you joined the syndicate. If you just joined it for somewhere to fish and weight isn't your be all and end all, then stay 🙂 if you are there for that opportunity to catch a 40lber, then maybe moving on would be your best bet.
In reply to Post #1
if its a nice place to angle and you like the other members then I would rejoin.
You could pay a lot more money to join another water with proven 40lbers and it could be poorly maintained, busy and full of w*nkers
Phil
if its a nice place to angle and you like the other members then I would rejoin.
You could pay a lot more money to join another water with proven 40lbers and it could be poorly maintained, busy and full of w*nkers
Phil
If you joined it specifically to catch that one fish, maybe you'd been shown pics of it etc then I'd probably have the hump. If you joined just to be a nice place to fish then rejoin. Look at it this way, you could have joined the water, it might have had a genuine 40 in it which goes belly up week after you hand over your cash.
I wouldn't take any notice of stupid names like “home of 40s” or “30s runs water” etc. It's normally horse**** as you well know if you've been around the scene 20 years.
I wouldn't take any notice of stupid names like “home of 40s” or “30s runs water” etc. It's normally horse**** as you well know if you've been around the scene 20 years.
In reply to Post #1
The way I would look at it like .. angling pleasure before pounds and ounces.
If you have enjoyed your fishing there, who cares? Those mid and upper 30's will more than likely be 40 plus in a year or two.
If you want proven 40 waters, save your money, put your name down, do your research and hopefully a ticket will come up that isn't silly expensive, rammed out and full of bounty hunters
The way I would look at it like .. angling pleasure before pounds and ounces.
If you have enjoyed your fishing there, who cares? Those mid and upper 30's will more than likely be 40 plus in a year or two.
If you want proven 40 waters, save your money, put your name down, do your research and hopefully a ticket will come up that isn't silly expensive, rammed out and full of bounty hunters
In reply to Post #1
That fish could have been a 40lb in the past, fish can lose or gain a few pound's each season, but if its one of your target fish and the reason you joined for that fish the weight shouldnt matter, but i know some just go for the weights and would bug them and take it up with the owner.
That fish could have been a 40lb in the past, fish can lose or gain a few pound's each season, but if its one of your target fish and the reason you joined for that fish the weight shouldnt matter, but i know some just go for the weights and would bug them and take it up with the owner.
Do you enjoy your fishing?
Are you able to fish on your terms?
If yes, then rejoin.
If you are after a 40, then go elsewhere.
As for fish weights, sadly a few get inflated, and NOT always by the fishery.
I can think of one water that an angler had 'caught a 40'. Yet next week before they spawned, that same fish was caught at 36, and weighed using a tripod and scales, so I am positive 36 was the correct weight. Don't get me wrong, I know fish can go up and down, but 36/37 was the particular fishes usual weight.
I can think of a few syndicates where the price is between £300-400 yet there are fish nowhere near 40lb. You are fishing in a nice, numpty free environment. That to me is worth the money.
Are you able to fish on your terms?
If yes, then rejoin.
If you are after a 40, then go elsewhere.
As for fish weights, sadly a few get inflated, and NOT always by the fishery.
I can think of one water that an angler had 'caught a 40'. Yet next week before they spawned, that same fish was caught at 36, and weighed using a tripod and scales, so I am positive 36 was the correct weight. Don't get me wrong, I know fish can go up and down, but 36/37 was the particular fishes usual weight.
I can think of a few syndicates where the price is between £300-400 yet there are fish nowhere near 40lb. You are fishing in a nice, numpty free environment. That to me is worth the money.
In reply to Post #3
Some fisheries will stock a forty and then advertise the water as having fish to 40+, but that fish just drops in weight. Sometimes by quite a bit.
I'm in your area and know that this has happened locally.
As others have said, if you enjoy it there and can put the perceived deception behind you, just rejoin and continue to enjoy.
Maybe worth bearing in mind that £400 is quite a cheap ticket in this area.
Some fisheries will stock a forty and then advertise the water as having fish to 40+, but that fish just drops in weight. Sometimes by quite a bit.
I'm in your area and know that this has happened locally.
As others have said, if you enjoy it there and can put the perceived deception behind you, just rejoin and continue to enjoy.
Maybe worth bearing in mind that £400 is quite a cheap ticket in this area.
Like others have said it depends what your looking for in a syndicate, I have two I'm a member of one of them has high 40s In but busier and a few idiots on there who don't care about the rest of us but then My other one the biggest fish is low 30lbs this one is actually more expensive to fish each year but a lot better place to go with a very limited number of members and all very nice blokes.
In reply to Post #14
Give me the second one any day
Give me the second one any day