As per title looking for a liver hydro supplier, a search on the forum suggests beef liver is best.
I have used the baf liver previously although I know this doesn't state the origin.
It is out of stock anyway, so thought I would ask the question.
Regards Tom.
I have used the baf liver previously although I know this doesn't state the origin.
It is out of stock anyway, so thought I would ask the question.
Regards Tom.
In reply to Post #1
Can't help with your main question but can tell you the baf one is chicken
Can't help with your main question but can tell you the baf one is chicken
In reply to Post #2
Thanks Deano, failing a beef hydro a reputable supplier of simply, liver hydro will be my next best bet as both feedstim (who seem to have discontinued the goose liver) and baf were my previous purchases.
Thanks Tom.
Thanks Deano, failing a beef hydro a reputable supplier of simply, liver hydro will be my next best bet as both feedstim (who seem to have discontinued the goose liver) and baf were my previous purchases.
Thanks Tom.
In reply to Post #3
Have you considered the other option of Beef Liver powder and a protease?
I think you will struggle to find a Beef Liver hydro powder unless you are approaching pharma firms, and you will be looking at way in excess of £100 per kilo I'm afraid.
Have you considered the other option of Beef Liver powder and a protease?
I think you will struggle to find a Beef Liver hydro powder unless you are approaching pharma firms, and you will be looking at way in excess of £100 per kilo I'm afraid.
In reply to Post #4
Thanks I hadn't considered that, I have garnered a limited knowledge on bait in the last few years.
And during that time found myself going round in circles with relation to ingredients and ratios etc,
Even that sent me down all sorts of rabbit holes 😝.
Enzymes are another level entirely.
So earlier in the year I just decided to stick to the old school ratios of 50% fishmeal, 25% birdfood and 25% milk.
Add a couple of hydros, bring some ingredients forward in terms of development and not deviate too much from there.
Tom.
Thanks I hadn't considered that, I have garnered a limited knowledge on bait in the last few years.
And during that time found myself going round in circles with relation to ingredients and ratios etc,
Even that sent me down all sorts of rabbit holes 😝.
Enzymes are another level entirely.
So earlier in the year I just decided to stick to the old school ratios of 50% fishmeal, 25% birdfood and 25% milk.
Add a couple of hydros, bring some ingredients forward in terms of development and not deviate too much from there.
Tom.
In reply to Post #5
Somehow failed to include that I would be looking for both a liquid and a powder 😅.
Somehow failed to include that I would be looking for both a liquid and a powder 😅.
In reply to Post #4
Have you considered the other option of Beef Liver powder and a protease?
Done that afew years ago, with pureed fresh beef liver @50*C/2hrs
Made me puke 
Have you considered the other option of Beef Liver powder and a protease?
Done that afew years ago, with pureed fresh beef liver @50*C/2hrs
Made me puke
In reply to Post #1
Although i cant vouch for any beef liver products, the baf powder and liquid liver are excellent 👍 as far as i can see the sticky baits liquid liver is the same as baf's too.
Although i cant vouch for any beef liver products, the baf powder and liquid liver are excellent 👍 as far as i can see the sticky baits liquid liver is the same as baf's too.
In reply to Post #8
Thanks everyone 😃.
Thanks everyone 😃.
In reply to Post #1
I also read somewhere that beef is something carp can't digest. Anyone heard/read that too?
I also read somewhere that beef is something carp can't digest. Anyone heard/read that too?
In regards to a beef liver powder. Many years ago I tried the Now foods Argentine beef liver powder, testing results were inconclusive at the time though. So, in the end dropped the liver, went back to a high level of a GLME product supplied by Trade Ingredients at the time.
In reply to Post #11
And, satisfying results on the GLM?
And, satisfying results on the GLM?
In reply to Post #10
Beef proteins are not easy to digest. We have an acidic digestive system that can break them down. Carp don't even have a stomach let alone acid. However a hydro is predigested to some extent so the aa chains should be shorter and some aa available as free aa
Beef proteins are not easy to digest. We have an acidic digestive system that can break them down. Carp don't even have a stomach let alone acid. However a hydro is predigested to some extent so the aa chains should be shorter and some aa available as free aa
In reply to Post #13
Am I understanding you correctly in saying beef is not a bad option, but better options are available?
Am I understanding you correctly in saying beef is not a bad option, but better options are available?
In reply to Post #13
Isn´t the liver product´s inclusion, just there to enhance palatability and intake, and not a major source of free AAs
Isn´t the liver product´s inclusion, just there to enhance palatability and intake, and not a major source of free AAs