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Removing varnish off old rods. (27 posts / 2,331 views)
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #1 3 Aug 2024 13:33
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Been a little bored this morning so started to strip the varnish off the blank of an old rod and can't believe how much there is on there. Took me nearly an hour to do one butt section.

Got me wondering, how much weight varnish adds to a blank and does it stiffen up the action? So without it will the blank be softer?

Baitman Baitman
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Post #2 3 Aug 2024 15:16
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In reply to Post #1
We're you scraping or sanding.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #3 3 Aug 2024 15:57
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Scraping with a bits of heat, top section a whole lot easier nowhere near as much varnish.

Looks pretty good tbh
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #4 3 Aug 2024 18:05
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Wouldn't think they were the same rod

blank
Baitman Baitman
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Post #5 3 Aug 2024 23:47
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Looks good. Are you leaving them unvarnished.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #6 4 Aug 2024 07:10
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Thanks, yes I think so. Would like to find something fine to run over the blanks, remove any little bits I've missed with the blade.

I will seal around the eyes with some nail varnish and find someone to replace them and the reel seat/duplon in the winter
DaveSG DaveSG
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Post #7 4 Aug 2024 10:42
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Ive never built/ rebuilt any rod before - but seems some good tips on here....

Americantackleguiderebuild

TheHandmadefisherman

GuidesandBlanks
jeffire jeffire
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Post #8 4 Aug 2024 13:30
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Why did you strip them the one on the right looks brand new ?
Baitman Baitman
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Post #9 4 Aug 2024 14:46
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There are some helpful hints on guides and blanks site.

Also a few fb rod building groups.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #10 4 Aug 2024 15:47
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Sadly they're not mate, bits of varnish flaking off on both blanks and the reel seats.

The varnished one in the picture was the better of the two, but only because the varnish hadn't yellowed like it had on the other.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #11 4 Aug 2024 15:50
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Thanks for the links, I've been looking at what goes into building rods today too, does seem relatively simple other than making sure everything is in the right place and lines up.

Maybe a winter project for me.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #12 4 Aug 2024 20:15
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I wish i had a pound for the amount of times people phone me and say i thought it would be easy . So much easier to fook them up . Thats the reason i dont like varnished or painted blanks .
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #13 5 Aug 2024 05:47
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I'm using them on the weekend so will see if the carbon is still ok before spending anything on them 👍
jeffire jeffire
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Post #14 5 Aug 2024 10:16
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It will be fine unless you have gouged them with a stanley and that takes some doing , getting the required brand new finish is the hard bit. 👍
55s 55s
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Post #15 5 Aug 2024 14:01
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Hi mate, quick question, I have whipped some really small 3mm collars on my pod, can you recommend a beginners varnish that I can use?
jeffire jeffire
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Post #16 5 Aug 2024 15:18
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Old fashioned way clear waterproof varnish thin coats so you dont have to rotate pod for drying . You will need about 6 coats .
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #17 6 Aug 2024 15:28
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Sigh, seems the varnish was holding it together.

tip
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #18 6 Aug 2024 15:46
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oh no

Need to resize your pic mate, sub 600pix largest measurement
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #19 6 Aug 2024 16:17
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There we go, can't resize on phone or I don't know how to lol

Bit gutted this has happened. The first one came up so well, I'd only just started on the second one.

But they didn't sell on the bay recently because they are in a bit of a mess and the only reason I tried this, so nothing lost.

Seems the fishing gods really do want me to buy new rods
mark1009
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Post #20 6 Aug 2024 16:28
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Turn the rest of the broken rod into a "donking" rod.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #21 6 Aug 2024 17:30
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Someone asked me the other day why rod builders charge so much (alot dont by the way . )They have no idea how much blanks cost for a start (they would be surprised not cheap) my answer was .When you pay for a hand crafted job (not only rod building ) You are getting knowledge,experience,study behind it ,tools,service,time,professionalism,Accountability,Accuracy and reliability . Not all about £.

Im surprised you couldnt see that before taking varnish off as it looks to have blown up on that pic , what would happen on a cast if badly fractured ?
Its given you a bit of experience stripping rods anyway 👍
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #22 6 Aug 2024 18:28
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They'll both go in the shed the one that is whole can be a third pub chuck rod if I'm on a social. The other I'll get an eye on the end eventually and keep it for the never never.

0nslow 0nslow
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Post #23 6 Aug 2024 18:31
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I let out a little squeal of shock as the blank folded in front of me. It literally just bent like candle wax as I pressed to scrape the varnish off. The mess in the picture is after I wiggled it a bit so see if the whole lot would come off and it didn't

Reminded me that a set of MK1's I had donkeys ago went in exactly the same place but that wasn't because I was stripping the varnish off!

I was quite enjoying what I was up to, so may have a go at the old Leeda's I've got in the shed next and see how I get on with them. They've been knocked around for 30 odd years so hopefully they will survive me and my fat fingers
Baitman Baitman
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Post #24 6 Aug 2024 18:53
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Where you using the sharp edge of a stanley blade or the blunt side. Did the edge dig in as you were scraping?
cinisimon cinisimon
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Post #25 6 Aug 2024 19:36
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In reply to Post #17
You can repair it easily, and being close to the ring the whipping come up really well.
I've done one that was broken in the middle of the upper section far from the rings.

There's some videos on youtube that shows how to do it.
0nslow 0nslow
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Post #26 6 Aug 2024 20:09
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Blunt pen knife blade mate. It wasn't me putting pressure one. It folded too easy reckon it was damaged for a while just never known
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #27 7 Aug 2024 17:55
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In reply to Post #15
take a look at gorilla glue clear - I use it for my rod whippings (rings & line clips) - is UV resistant, doesn't need curing, & dries fairly quickly. does a really good job IMO
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