So the fish finder icon on the screen what size fish are small medium and large if I set it at large nothing set it to medium get a few so I was worried how big does it have to be to show large
In reply to Post #1
For all these fish finders the prime market is the USA sportsfishing scene, small for bait fish, I'd say large anything over 10lb.
I never use mine for fish finding just lake topography and construction.
If I go on a reservoir for big pike and zander they are handy for finding baitfish, that's all imho.
For all these fish finders the prime market is the USA sportsfishing scene, small for bait fish, I'd say large anything over 10lb.
I never use mine for fish finding just lake topography and construction.
If I go on a reservoir for big pike and zander they are handy for finding baitfish, that's all imho.
Are these things any good used with a bait boat? Im trying to go for a more stealthy approach on pressured waters.
In reply to Post #3
Yes mate, though you might want to get a range extender. Search the forum for deeper, loads of info on here including how to make your own range extender for £50 or less, in one of the latest links. Personally I use mine with a range extender from Matt at Fish Eye products, mount bought readily from Ebay around £10.
Yes mate, though you might want to get a range extender. Search the forum for deeper, loads of info on here including how to make your own range extender for £50 or less, in one of the latest links. Personally I use mine with a range extender from Matt at Fish Eye products, mount bought readily from Ebay around £10.
In reply to Post #1
Turn it off, it's as much use as chocolate hooks.
Turn it off, it's as much use as chocolate hooks.
In reply to Post #5
Not sure about that but you have to learn how to recognise things properly and then be open to it being wrong. I had the opportunity to use it on a stock pond with large Cats in, and when they moved up off the bottom they did show as a big arc, if they were stationary on the bottom it appeared as just part of the lake bed contour.
EDIT, personally I don't rely on it for fish location, I think the only thing that can do that 100% is some of the Dragonfly.
I've also had a large shoal of silver fish at 10m confirmed as a large disturbance on the screen of a much cheaper Horizon fish finder..long story involving a wild swimming/free diving neighbour at Sale Water Park!
Not sure about that but you have to learn how to recognise things properly and then be open to it being wrong. I had the opportunity to use it on a stock pond with large Cats in, and when they moved up off the bottom they did show as a big arc, if they were stationary on the bottom it appeared as just part of the lake bed contour.
EDIT, personally I don't rely on it for fish location, I think the only thing that can do that 100% is some of the Dragonfly.
I've also had a large shoal of silver fish at 10m confirmed as a large disturbance on the screen of a much cheaper Horizon fish finder..long story involving a wild swimming/free diving neighbour at Sale Water Park!
In reply to Post #1
forget using a deeper for fish its truly Pony for that turn that bit off
as its far too easily fooled by debris bubbles even weeds etc but showing the topography of the lake /river bed depths etc feature finding they do a very good job
forget using a deeper for fish its truly Pony for that turn that bit off
as its far too easily fooled by debris bubbles even weeds etc but showing the topography of the lake /river bed depths etc feature finding they do a very good job
In reply to Post #4
Ok thanks. Im going to be fishing a pretty weedy lake in france next May and this will be perfect. Its not a very big lake either.
Ok thanks. Im going to be fishing a pretty weedy lake in france next May and this will be perfect. Its not a very big lake either.
In reply to Post #8
Quite possibly boat dependent but with my RT4 as the Deeper sits low to the rear I'd lose signal at around 60 yards on turning the boat when 'exploring' the bottom, the extender sorted that. I was told raising the receiver would help but never got round to it. If you do get it I'd have a play at the distances you expect to fish at in France before getting there
Quite possibly boat dependent but with my RT4 as the Deeper sits low to the rear I'd lose signal at around 60 yards on turning the boat when 'exploring' the bottom, the extender sorted that. I was told raising the receiver would help but never got round to it. If you do get it I'd have a play at the distances you expect to fish at in France before getting there
In reply to Post #9
Early Xmas pressie methinks.
Early Xmas pressie methinks.
In reply to Post #6
I mean the fish icons on a Deeper.
I agree with learning to read the RAW data.
I mean the fish icons on a Deeper.
I agree with learning to read the RAW data.
In reply to Post #7
Exactly, thank you.
Exactly, thank you.
In reply to Post #11
I mean the fish icons on a Deeper.
I've never used mine, it's hard enough to try and work out what the signal return means let alone let ai make a icon of it
hence not talking about icon size but arcs.
I mean the fish icons on a Deeper.
I've never used mine, it's hard enough to try and work out what the signal return means let alone let ai make a icon of it
hence not talking about icon size but arcs.
Not using as a fish finder but having not long getting it my just playing with the options to try and work out how it works bought it as a depth contor finder and anything else is a bonus use it on my shuttle
In reply to Post #13
icon AND arcs. are both the same !!
and of course all the negatives that apply to the Icons apply exactly the same to the Arcs
icon AND arcs. are both the same !!
and of course all the negatives that apply to the Icons apply exactly the same to the Arcs
In reply to Post #15
Oh give over Gerry of course there the same, one of the reasons I replied using the word ARC. We addressed interpreting the raw data before. I also said the arc and by inference the fish icon can also be accurate and it can FACT, especially in winter when there's little to interfere with the actual fish. Naturally in spring/summer there are a lot of factors that can affect the transducers return signal but that doesn't mean it's as useless as a chocolate tea pot, as some have made out.
The return from the winter shoaling fish I mentioned before on the cheap Horizon fish finder did have the fish icon and true to the shoal it showed lots of little fish icons, though I doubt they represented individual fish, it also showed a larger fish symbol at the base of a buoys chain anchor, which again was accurate.
If folk want to take all doubt out of the equation don't buy Chirp, get Dragonfly, then you can watch your lead and bait land on the inch square you wanted, keep your boat there and you can even watch the Carp hook itself, fill your boots
Oh give over Gerry of course there the same, one of the reasons I replied using the word ARC. We addressed interpreting the raw data before. I also said the arc and by inference the fish icon can also be accurate and it can FACT, especially in winter when there's little to interfere with the actual fish. Naturally in spring/summer there are a lot of factors that can affect the transducers return signal but that doesn't mean it's as useless as a chocolate tea pot, as some have made out.
The return from the winter shoaling fish I mentioned before on the cheap Horizon fish finder did have the fish icon and true to the shoal it showed lots of little fish icons, though I doubt they represented individual fish, it also showed a larger fish symbol at the base of a buoys chain anchor, which again was accurate.
If folk want to take all doubt out of the equation don't buy Chirp, get Dragonfly, then you can watch your lead and bait land on the inch square you wanted, keep your boat there and you can even watch the Carp hook itself, fill your boots
In reply to Post #16
Oh YOU give over
PLEASE dont tell me about the capabilities of the Deeper
I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours over 30 odd years of owning and using offshore fishing boats starting out with the sonar that used just register depth the Seafarer spinning echo sounder then progressed to the Eagle paper sounder then along came solid state sealed Furuno and Lowrance Humming bird , Garmin I have owned and used all of these selling and upgrading as newer models came out then got rid of my boats marina fees were getting crazy so stopped Sea fishing
and concentrating back again to Carp fishing I started using bait boats and inflatables with a Garmin Fishfinder on it in my Europe Carping and tried a deeper on the baitboat I have been out in my Inflatable with an Aquascope my bait boat with deeper tied to the boat seeing what the thing is telling me in cold and hot times of the year (as we all know location is key especially of huge lakes)
seeing drifting over some really big carp and Sturgeon and the deeper not picking them up at all and other cases where is saying fish and there was sod all but it certainly does pick out depths holes in weed and hard and soft bottoms
so I stand by my statement as a fish finder the Deeper is not worth a toss ! full stop and **** the temp
Oh YOU give over
PLEASE dont tell me about the capabilities of the Deeper
I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours over 30 odd years of owning and using offshore fishing boats starting out with the sonar that used just register depth the Seafarer spinning echo sounder then progressed to the Eagle paper sounder then along came solid state sealed Furuno and Lowrance Humming bird , Garmin I have owned and used all of these selling and upgrading as newer models came out then got rid of my boats marina fees were getting crazy so stopped Sea fishing
and concentrating back again to Carp fishing I started using bait boats and inflatables with a Garmin Fishfinder on it in my Europe Carping and tried a deeper on the baitboat I have been out in my Inflatable with an Aquascope my bait boat with deeper tied to the boat seeing what the thing is telling me in cold and hot times of the year (as we all know location is key especially of huge lakes)
seeing drifting over some really big carp and Sturgeon and the deeper not picking them up at all and other cases where is saying fish and there was sod all but it certainly does pick out depths holes in weed and hard and soft bottoms
so I stand by my statement as a fish finder the Deeper is not worth a toss ! full stop and **** the temp
In reply to Post #17
I will talk to you about the qualities of the Deeper Gerry as I have quite a bit of experience if it.
I didn't see the need to state all my history of using fish finders as it wasn't and isn't relevant but sering as your trying to use it to infer greater experience (which is true) I will.
You do have greater all round knowledge especially re sea fishing, I knew that. My history goes back to the late 90's, think it was a fish eagle on my inflatable, 2 or 3 trips a year to Europe, so I'm no novice. As you'll probably know from my previous posts I also had a RT4 with Chirp and mapping. I know the limitations of Chirp but there are plus sides, as shown in the Carplounge vids.
None of that means either of us should be having a pop, quotes like useless don't really help anyone and it's less than subjective for those reading these posts
I will talk to you about the qualities of the Deeper Gerry as I have quite a bit of experience if it.
I didn't see the need to state all my history of using fish finders as it wasn't and isn't relevant but sering as your trying to use it to infer greater experience (which is true) I will.
You do have greater all round knowledge especially re sea fishing, I knew that. My history goes back to the late 90's, think it was a fish eagle on my inflatable, 2 or 3 trips a year to Europe, so I'm no novice. As you'll probably know from my previous posts I also had a RT4 with Chirp and mapping. I know the limitations of Chirp but there are plus sides, as shown in the Carplounge vids.
None of that means either of us should be having a pop, quotes like useless don't really help anyone and it's less than subjective for those reading these posts
In reply to Post #16
I have seen the rig and bait dropping when using the Deeper on a baiting pole.
I have seen the rig and bait dropping when using the Deeper on a baiting pole.
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