Hi I am after some light weight waterproofs to go over my winter gear. I have seen the vass tex ones but I read they are not 100% waterproof? Any other suggestions.
Thanks
Thanks
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Castle clothing fortex flex 220 jacket and 920 trousers both 100% waterproof and under £50
For both the jacket and trousers . I use them both for work and fishing and can't fault them
Castle clothing fortex flex 220 jacket and 920 trousers both 100% waterproof and under £50
For both the jacket and trousers . I use them both for work and fishing and can't fault them
Highly recommend tribord sailing waterproofs from decathlon. Use for work and are best I've used.
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Korda Drykore for me. Never let me down and wear mind over the Snugpak bib and brace and jacket.
Korda Drykore for me. Never let me down and wear mind over the Snugpak bib and brace and jacket.
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When I worked at Heathrow Airport in all weather we got issued with FLEXOTHANE clothing 100% water proof an breathable quality
LINKY POO
When I worked at Heathrow Airport in all weather we got issued with FLEXOTHANE clothing 100% water proof an breathable quality
LINKY POO
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Flexothane
1,000's of hill farmers can't be wrong.
https://www.google.com/search?q=flexothane&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB885GB885&oq=Flexothan&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDQ5NzVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Flexothane
1,000's of hill farmers can't be wrong.
https://www.google.com/search?q=flexothane&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB885GB885&oq=Flexothan&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBEAAYgAQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDQ5NzVqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Have you ever worn these out of curiosity ? they look like they would be fully waterproof unlike most other things available but looking at them dont look like they would be breathable really ?
Maybe ok for fishing / milling about but presumably wouldnt want to go for a walk with these on ?
Only ask as I am a dog walker and always on the lookout for waterproofs that actually work !!
Have you ever worn these out of curiosity ? they look like they would be fully waterproof unlike most other things available but looking at them dont look like they would be breathable really ?
Maybe ok for fishing / milling about but presumably wouldnt want to go for a walk with these on ?
Only ask as I am a dog walker and always on the lookout for waterproofs that actually work !!
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I got the fortis marine set, haven't let me down so far. Packs down small, great fit for me too.
I got the fortis marine set, haven't let me down so far. Packs down small, great fit for me too.
Just buy a British army goretex jacket. They cost about £30 on ebay. There's absolutely no reason to spend more for a hobby where the main activity is sitting/standing around. Even if it only lasts a year, it has cost you just over 8 pence a day to own.
Also, the entire concept of breathability is a bit of a con anyway. As soon as the outer layer is saturated, the "breathability" will become almost non-existent. If you're bothered about breathability then buy a Paramo and prepared to get wet but remain warm. However, buying a Paramo for low intensity activities such as carp fishing or dog walking is pointless as you will not be working hard enough to properly make use of the mechanics of the jacket.
Also, the entire concept of breathability is a bit of a con anyway. As soon as the outer layer is saturated, the "breathability" will become almost non-existent. If you're bothered about breathability then buy a Paramo and prepared to get wet but remain warm. However, buying a Paramo for low intensity activities such as carp fishing or dog walking is pointless as you will not be working hard enough to properly make use of the mechanics of the jacket.
In reply to Post #9
Got to agree,
When my old jacket became less waterproof than a PVA bag I invested in a lightweight Goretex army jacket for around £35 and it was brand new, unbelievable value!
Bought it big so I can wear my old buffalo smock or a couple of fleeces underneath in the colder months, it spot on, rolls up small enough to go inside my bag and does exactly what it was designed to do!
Keeps me dry, the undergarments keep me warm!
If my ageing ESP salopettes ever give up the ghost I'll be getting a lightweight Goretex set from the same place.
Tel
👍👍
Got to agree,
When my old jacket became less waterproof than a PVA bag I invested in a lightweight Goretex army jacket for around £35 and it was brand new, unbelievable value!
Bought it big so I can wear my old buffalo smock or a couple of fleeces underneath in the colder months, it spot on, rolls up small enough to go inside my bag and does exactly what it was designed to do!
Keeps me dry, the undergarments keep me warm!
If my ageing ESP salopettes ever give up the ghost I'll be getting a lightweight Goretex set from the same place.
Tel
👍👍
Must admit I'd never considered the Flexothane range of waterproofs. Seen lots of farmers with them and as a group farmers are not known for throwing there very hard earned cash about for something crap.
If they are as good as they claim the the prices are very low.
Think I may buy a pair of the trousers as at that price if they don't meet expectations then it's not a big deal. If they are as good as claimed I'll follow with a jacket.
If they are as good as they claim the the prices are very low.
Think I may buy a pair of the trousers as at that price if they don't meet expectations then it's not a big deal. If they are as good as claimed I'll follow with a jacket.
In reply to Post #11
Anyone know how the sizing comes up on the Flexothane ? Look perfect for the money
Anyone know how the sizing comes up on the Flexothane ? Look perfect for the money
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In my spare time I help the in-laws on the farm and we use the flexothane gear it's one down fall is it's not as breathable as your led to believe, it is waterproof and wind proof and well made the material has a slight stretch to it too. Sizing wise I'm a 36 waist and a large top and large pants and large jacket fit me, If you were wanting to put them over a thicker under or mid layer I would size up as with a hoodie on my jacket can be a bit snug at times and probably not great to try and cast out in.
There is a company on Amazon that sell copies of the flexothane gear and I use the bib and brace they make as I prefer the fit when I'm going to be knee deep in wet sheep for the day as I'm not forever pulling my pants back up. And they last just as well if not longer than the flexothane have in the past.
In my spare time I help the in-laws on the farm and we use the flexothane gear it's one down fall is it's not as breathable as your led to believe, it is waterproof and wind proof and well made the material has a slight stretch to it too. Sizing wise I'm a 36 waist and a large top and large pants and large jacket fit me, If you were wanting to put them over a thicker under or mid layer I would size up as with a hoodie on my jacket can be a bit snug at times and probably not great to try and cast out in.
There is a company on Amazon that sell copies of the flexothane gear and I use the bib and brace they make as I prefer the fit when I'm going to be knee deep in wet sheep for the day as I'm not forever pulling my pants back up. And they last just as well if not longer than the flexothane have in the past.
Army gortex for me after trying all sorts over the years
The flexothane look interesting though. I once had a PU coated jacket but it was cheap and didn't last long but for fishing it was great, 100% waterproof and could be shaken off, and that's the problem with a lot of materials, for me, it soaks the water in, takes ages to dry and is not ideal in a tent, brilliant at contributing to condensation!
Said it before, look at trawler men, PVC with wool undergarments. For fishing, sat around, I can't see a problem with this gear other than its lack of breathability, wet from the inside but let's face it, how many people sit out in the rain all day, it's out for a fish, a recast or to bait up really and coat off
The flexothane look interesting though. I once had a PU coated jacket but it was cheap and didn't last long but for fishing it was great, 100% waterproof and could be shaken off, and that's the problem with a lot of materials, for me, it soaks the water in, takes ages to dry and is not ideal in a tent, brilliant at contributing to condensation!
Said it before, look at trawler men, PVC with wool undergarments. For fishing, sat around, I can't see a problem with this gear other than its lack of breathability, wet from the inside but let's face it, how many people sit out in the rain all day, it's out for a fish, a recast or to bait up really and coat off
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Exactly the same for me👍
Happy with my army Goretex but it's the drying off of it which is the bugbear. I was hoping the Flexothane would wipe off on the outside easily.
However I have been warned by an outdoors working man that they aren't as breathable as stated and do have their own drawbacks.
Hmmmm.......maybe stick with what I have.
Exactly the same for me👍
Happy with my army Goretex but it's the drying off of it which is the bugbear. I was hoping the Flexothane would wipe off on the outside easily.
However I have been warned by an outdoors working man that they aren't as breathable as stated and do have their own drawbacks.
Hmmmm.......maybe stick with what I have.
British army goretex for me
I use the lightweight version with no hood as a veteran I hate hoods but that's a long story
Brilliant stuff and always keeps me dry
I use the lightweight version with no hood as a veteran I hate hoods but that's a long story
Brilliant stuff and always keeps me dry
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when we were issued with Flexothane clothing it said breathable QUALITYS
now all I can tell you is I worked at Heathrow Airport refuelling aircraft for up to 18 hours (double shift) often in torrential rain when your refilling a plane you are just stuck there no hiding place often you had to turn your back as with the winds the rain is horizontal
and the Flexothane waterproofs truly are 100% waterproof full stop
Prior to these we had a different manager and we had super expensive Gore Tex suits but new manager cost cutting switched us to the Flexothane and to be honest I prefered the Flexothane in the end I suppose if you were doing lots of activity you may get wet on the inside but I never noticed it in the 3 years I wore them
when we were issued with Flexothane clothing it said breathable QUALITYS
now all I can tell you is I worked at Heathrow Airport refuelling aircraft for up to 18 hours (double shift) often in torrential rain when your refilling a plane you are just stuck there no hiding place often you had to turn your back as with the winds the rain is horizontal
and the Flexothane waterproofs truly are 100% waterproof full stop
Prior to these we had a different manager and we had super expensive Gore Tex suits but new manager cost cutting switched us to the Flexothane and to be honest I prefered the Flexothane in the end I suppose if you were doing lots of activity you may get wet on the inside but I never noticed it in the 3 years I wore them
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Cannot beat the army gear.
Cannot beat the army gear.
In reply to Post #17
I've had a set of Flexothane for years. I've got other waterproofs but they are by far the best.
I've had a set of Flexothane for years. I've got other waterproofs but they are by far the best.
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I use the Aqua F12 torrent's top and bottoms at the moment, and having just done 72 hours last week I can attest they worked brilliantly - as you'd expect kept me dry and no sweating as they're extremely breathable.
That said - every breathable fabric has its limits - if you're humping a barrow around our even just setting up, then you're going to sweat - in that scenario I tend to just resign to getting wet, and once setup I'll dry off and change into my clothes I intend to wear on the bank.
As another curve-ball but worth considering. I ride a motorbike and commute on it 2-3 days a week in all weather. Ive just bought the SCOTT ERGONOMIC PRO DP RAIN JACKET and trousers. I have to say Im really impressed. Usually for motorbikes the options are limited, and invariably non-breathable plastic to keep the wet out at motorway+ speeds. I do wear decent Rukka laminates, but, if you commute you know its better to have "disposable" outer layers as they get ruined with all the muck off the road in a very short space of time. Anyway, this Scott gear is brilliant. It feels like a plastic kind of outer layer, but, its really breathable - Im not sweating in it at all - completely different story with the usual Oxford bike gear where its like wearing a tarpaulin and you get just as wet from your own sweat as you would from the rain. Just thought Id mention it as they do the Scott gear in Olive green too. But trust me, if it keeps you dry in torrential rain at speeds in excess of 70mph it's going to keep you bone dry on the bank. Only down side I can see is no hood.
I use the Aqua F12 torrent's top and bottoms at the moment, and having just done 72 hours last week I can attest they worked brilliantly - as you'd expect kept me dry and no sweating as they're extremely breathable.
That said - every breathable fabric has its limits - if you're humping a barrow around our even just setting up, then you're going to sweat - in that scenario I tend to just resign to getting wet, and once setup I'll dry off and change into my clothes I intend to wear on the bank.
As another curve-ball but worth considering. I ride a motorbike and commute on it 2-3 days a week in all weather. Ive just bought the SCOTT ERGONOMIC PRO DP RAIN JACKET and trousers. I have to say Im really impressed. Usually for motorbikes the options are limited, and invariably non-breathable plastic to keep the wet out at motorway+ speeds. I do wear decent Rukka laminates, but, if you commute you know its better to have "disposable" outer layers as they get ruined with all the muck off the road in a very short space of time. Anyway, this Scott gear is brilliant. It feels like a plastic kind of outer layer, but, its really breathable - Im not sweating in it at all - completely different story with the usual Oxford bike gear where its like wearing a tarpaulin and you get just as wet from your own sweat as you would from the rain. Just thought Id mention it as they do the Scott gear in Olive green too. But trust me, if it keeps you dry in torrential rain at speeds in excess of 70mph it's going to keep you bone dry on the bank. Only down side I can see is no hood.
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They are simply brilliant. I'm 6ft and 14 1/2 -15 stone and have the large in bib 'n' brace and jacket.
Note, if it's pouring down, water will run off the jacket and soak your legs unless you have got the trousers/bib 'n' brace on
They are simply brilliant. I'm 6ft and 14 1/2 -15 stone and have the large in bib 'n' brace and jacket.
Note, if it's pouring down, water will run off the jacket and soak your legs unless you have got the trousers/bib 'n' brace on
Maybe it's just me, but I've never had much luck with the army gortex stuff. They keep you dry for a while. But it always seems like the water just soaks in, goes round the bend and up the sleeves. If you take it off wet, it stays wet, and seems to soak through to the inside around the cuffs and collar.
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Not just you mate. The army stuff is cheap enough but not all Goretex is equal. If you haven't tried already then a machine wash with soap and tumble dry helps.
There is much better out there at a reasonable price. The Berghaus Maitland Goretex stuff is twin layer and doesn't cost the earth.
Not just you mate. The army stuff is cheap enough but not all Goretex is equal. If you haven't tried already then a machine wash with soap and tumble dry helps.
There is much better out there at a reasonable price. The Berghaus Maitland Goretex stuff is twin layer and doesn't cost the earth.
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Whatever you do don't use ordinary washing powder/liquid and softener - you'll destroy Gortex and similar fabric if you do. You can use pure soap, but, better to stick with something made for the purpose - Nikwax tech wash to clean it, and tx direct to re-proof it. You can get the stuff anywhere - and loads of instructions of YouTube, but, make sure you clean out the washing machine detergent drawer etc and run a full 60 degree cycle with the machine empty before you use the tech wash and tx direct.
All breathable fabrics need to be re-proofed - as soon as you see the fabric wetting and water not beading off - time to re-proof it.
Whatever you do don't use ordinary washing powder/liquid and softener - you'll destroy Gortex and similar fabric if you do. You can use pure soap, but, better to stick with something made for the purpose - Nikwax tech wash to clean it, and tx direct to re-proof it. You can get the stuff anywhere - and loads of instructions of YouTube, but, make sure you clean out the washing machine detergent drawer etc and run a full 60 degree cycle with the machine empty before you use the tech wash and tx direct.
All breathable fabrics need to be re-proofed - as soon as you see the fabric wetting and water not beading off - time to re-proof it.
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