What do you know....?
Educate me..!
Educate me..!
In reply to Post #1
Made a ****load of cash from the test and trace debacle
Fingers in lots of underhand / dodgy / nasty tory pies... immigration and border control, refugee housing, NHS contracts, rail services... government contracts awarded to a company that has a history of serious fraud and falsifying data..
That SERCO?
Made a ****load of cash from the test and trace debacle
Fingers in lots of underhand / dodgy / nasty tory pies... immigration and border control, refugee housing, NHS contracts, rail services... government contracts awarded to a company that has a history of serious fraud and falsifying data..
That SERCO?
In reply to Post #1
https://stevelawsreport.co.uk/serco-landlord-scheme/
https://stevelawsreport.co.uk/serco-landlord-scheme/
I know they're the home office security contractor now, they've just arrived in a hotel in Hereford that the Government have done a deal with the owners for 120 migrant asylum seekers and never bothered with a representative turning up to the Parish council meeting called last Friday following the news being given locally a week or two before, the meeting was called for by the Parish council as locals were voicing their opinions/concerns online, the two local councilors for this area never turned up either.
Herefordshire councils frequently asked questions
Herefordshire councils frequently asked questions
In reply to Post #4
Great link Carpstar40...
Cheers...
Ps,it's interesting that two parish councillors never turned up ,
Great link Carpstar40...
Cheers...
Ps,it's interesting that two parish councillors never turned up ,
In reply to Post #4
Interesting that our lovely home secretary and Co are on the 'stop the boats' 'reclaim our borders' PR mantra.... promising no pesky asylum seekers for their particular chosen audience....
Whilst at the same time awarding lucrative contracts to fraudulent companies like serco who then promise landlords guarantees of rent for thousands of asylum seekers...
Someone is lying eh?
Almost like a government trying to appeal to a certain demographic as they did with brexit
Interesting that our lovely home secretary and Co are on the 'stop the boats' 'reclaim our borders' PR mantra.... promising no pesky asylum seekers for their particular chosen audience....
Whilst at the same time awarding lucrative contracts to fraudulent companies like serco who then promise landlords guarantees of rent for thousands of asylum seekers...
Someone is lying eh?
Almost like a government trying to appeal to a certain demographic as they did with brexit
In reply to Post #4
They did the same in a Luton hotel or somewhere else like that a couple of months ago
Cancelled weddings funerals christenings the lot as this contract was worth more to the hotel than The bookings allegedly
They did the same in a Luton hotel or somewhere else like that a couple of months ago
Cancelled weddings funerals christenings the lot as this contract was worth more to the hotel than The bookings allegedly
In reply to Post #6
"nteresting that our lovely home secretary and Co are on the 'stop the boats' 'reclaim our borders' PR mantra.... promising no pesky asylum seekers for their particular chosen audience...."
LOL, you mean the majority of the country.
"Almost like a government trying to appeal to a certain demographic as they did with brexit"
Its what all governments and oposition do, Labour under Corbyn appealed to a certain demographic which is why they/you lost so badly !!!!
Just not reading the room are you
"nteresting that our lovely home secretary and Co are on the 'stop the boats' 'reclaim our borders' PR mantra.... promising no pesky asylum seekers for their particular chosen audience...."
LOL, you mean the majority of the country.
"Almost like a government trying to appeal to a certain demographic as they did with brexit"
Its what all governments and oposition do, Labour under Corbyn appealed to a certain demographic which is why they/you lost so badly !!!!
Just not reading the room are you
In reply to Post #8
I see your ban didn't cure your obsession then spinbowler...
And I'm very much reading the room...
How did Johnny Rotten put it?
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
I see your ban didn't cure your obsession then spinbowler...
And I'm very much reading the room...
How did Johnny Rotten put it?
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
In reply to Post #9
Not sure who your cricket bloke is??
the forums virtue signaller 
never been cheated either
Not sure who your cricket bloke is??
the forums virtue signaller never been cheated either
In reply to Post #9
He also said never trust a hippy
He also said never trust a hippy
In reply to Post #11
That's because he never met any of the nice ones
That's because he never met any of the nice ones
In reply to Post #7
Same in this instance in Hereford, although the failure of this Hotel has been on the cards for a longtime there have been a few planning applications put in for use of the ground, one was for a Lidl store to be built.
Obviously they say in the link that it takes approximately 12 months for their application for asylum to be processed the problem is the Home office is failing this target then you have the new asylum seekers being housed when rooms become available with the new asylum seekers entering the country taking their place, add to that those that get lost in the system/disappear opening up further vacancy so how long will the hotel actually be used for? this could be years with the backlogs and more arriving daily and if the asylum seekers then take up residence in the City the infrastructure of a small city like Hereford just will not cope, a few years ago they merged about 5 doctors surgery's into one super surgery built for the purpose of a growing city population one being my surgery where getting an appointment was never an issue, within 18 months of being open and well before the asylum seekers arrival it went from calling reception for an appointment to logging your health issue on the online HSG group website where some one will review in the next 5 days and then asses if you need to see a doctor, this same surgery has just taken on the responsibility of taking the 120no asylum seekers on their books, yes we have to be charitable but when were struggling to cope as a country looking after those already a citizen it kind of smarts with some, nothing to do with being racist just a case of looking after number one and my own.
Same in this instance in Hereford, although the failure of this Hotel has been on the cards for a longtime there have been a few planning applications put in for use of the ground, one was for a Lidl store to be built.
Obviously they say in the link that it takes approximately 12 months for their application for asylum to be processed the problem is the Home office is failing this target then you have the new asylum seekers being housed when rooms become available with the new asylum seekers entering the country taking their place, add to that those that get lost in the system/disappear opening up further vacancy so how long will the hotel actually be used for? this could be years with the backlogs and more arriving daily and if the asylum seekers then take up residence in the City the infrastructure of a small city like Hereford just will not cope, a few years ago they merged about 5 doctors surgery's into one super surgery built for the purpose of a growing city population one being my surgery where getting an appointment was never an issue, within 18 months of being open and well before the asylum seekers arrival it went from calling reception for an appointment to logging your health issue on the online HSG group website where some one will review in the next 5 days and then asses if you need to see a doctor, this same surgery has just taken on the responsibility of taking the 120no asylum seekers on their books, yes we have to be charitable but when were struggling to cope as a country looking after those already a citizen it kind of smarts with some, nothing to do with being racist just a case of looking after number one and my own.
In reply to Post #13
Isn't serco owned by the husband of that old bag teresa may, who was prime minister at the time of the Olympics. And serco was awarded the security contract for that, and was unable to supply the man power, and the army needed to be called in to assist.
Isn't serco owned by the husband of that old bag teresa may, who was prime minister at the time of the Olympics. And serco was awarded the security contract for that, and was unable to supply the man power, and the army needed to be called in to assist.
In reply to Post #13
I'm not sure an asylum seeker is someone who travels across continents, through numerous safe countries, to jump in a boat and cross the channel to get here. Those are national security risks, and should be treated as so.
You can fly anywhere in Europe for £30. These people pay £5000+ to be smuggled in. Why is that?
A real asylum seeker is someone fleeing war etc, in their own country, and is seeking a safe place to live. Most asylum seekers here should be ones we are going and getting and bringing here. Like those from Ukraine for a recent example.
I'm not sure an asylum seeker is someone who travels across continents, through numerous safe countries, to jump in a boat and cross the channel to get here. Those are national security risks, and should be treated as so.
You can fly anywhere in Europe for £30. These people pay £5000+ to be smuggled in. Why is that?
A real asylum seeker is someone fleeing war etc, in their own country, and is seeking a safe place to live. Most asylum seekers here should be ones we are going and getting and bringing here. Like those from Ukraine for a recent example.
In reply to Post #15
Thank you Suella
Just checked easyjet website and unfortunately they don't do many budget flights from Damascus. Especially if you cant book online because your WiFi hasn't worked since your house got blown up...
And of course you just need to keep your fingers crossed that there are no missile strikes closing the airport while you're in the duty free shop...
Thank you Suella
Just checked easyjet website and unfortunately they don't do many budget flights from Damascus. Especially if you cant book online because your WiFi hasn't worked since your house got blown up...
And of course you just need to keep your fingers crossed that there are no missile strikes closing the airport while you're in the duty free shop...
In reply to Post #16
Just checked an atlas, and no parts of Damascus are in europe.
And how many safe countries do you pass through on your journey from damascus, to the french coast, before jumping in the dinghy? Maybe they want to come here for the weather?
Just checked an atlas, and no parts of Damascus are in europe.
And how many safe countries do you pass through on your journey from damascus, to the french coast, before jumping in the dinghy? Maybe they want to come here for the weather?
In reply to Post #17
Or maybe for the delightful locals...
Or maybe for the delightful locals...
In reply to Post #18
Rwanda is lovely this time of year, load them up fly them out 👍🏼
Accor hotels, French owned doing very well out of the asylum seekers and the British tax payer, so well the home office want to put them in ships....
Rwanda is lovely this time of year, load them up fly them out 👍🏼
Accor hotels, French owned doing very well out of the asylum seekers and the British tax payer, so well the home office want to put them in ships....
In reply to Post #19
What a surprise
As I mentioned earlier, Johnny had it right. While you lot are worrying about the lie that it's those nasty illegals that are to blame for all the problems in the country, companies like serco and their tory mates are laughing all the way to their offshore accounts...
What a surprise
As I mentioned earlier, Johnny had it right. While you lot are worrying about the lie that it's those nasty illegals that are to blame for all the problems in the country, companies like serco and their tory mates are laughing all the way to their offshore accounts...
In reply to Post #20
Look it's not my fault the Tory government won't give you the pay rise you feel you deserve 🥱
Clearly it's left you bitter & twisted but hey ho.
Look it's not my fault the Tory government won't give you the pay rise you feel you deserve 🥱
Clearly it's left you bitter & twisted but hey ho.
In reply to Post #21
His life is so bad he's thinking of paying someone to take him across the chanel in a little rubber dinghy, would they have him though🤔🙄
His life is so bad he's thinking of paying someone to take him across the chanel in a little rubber dinghy, would they have him though🤔🙄
Not sure why these threads, always turn into petty squabbles between the 2 extreme sides of the fence. Rather than try and understand everyone has opinions, and they are entitled to said opinions, it results in having little swipes at anyone who isnt in their camp.
In reply to Post #23
To be fair it's right what you are saying but it's not been so bad lately since some members were banned. Seemed to me they only came on here to be experts with superiorly complexes in Non Carp with nothing to say about fishing.
Now they are gone it's more to do with banter and micky taking and I'm sure both sides can both give it and take it. If it constantly goes beyond that then I'm sure there will be another thinning down of memberships.
To be fair it's right what you are saying but it's not been so bad lately since some members were banned. Seemed to me they only came on here to be experts with superiorly complexes in Non Carp with nothing to say about fishing.
Now they are gone it's more to do with banter and micky taking and I'm sure both sides can both give it and take it. If it constantly goes beyond that then I'm sure there will be another thinning down of memberships.
In reply to Post #23
Maybe because instead of posting about serco you felt the need to start commenting on what a 'Proper asylum seeker' is and the silly comment about £30 flights.
Pot, kettle etc. ...
I'm in agreement with you that we should be doing more for asylum seekers and war refugees. It seems I'd go further than you and that's a difference of opinion.
Tinhead is right. There are some who will use non carp as an excuse for other agendas. Maybe people would see me as that because I choose to challenge what I see as some nasty underlying attitudes. I can ignore the repeated personal digs. There's a line and if it's crossed then the mods can take appropriate action. These threads all too often become an echo chamber for the 'bloody immigrants ' comments and that quickly turns into more unsavoury posts.
Let's stick to serco and the fact that they're clearly a company with some serious questions to be asked, but still being given lucrative government contracts. Currently its tory government contracts so thats what i refer to. Im under no illusion that a different government could do the same. I think we are in agreement on that too.
Maybe because instead of posting about serco you felt the need to start commenting on what a 'Proper asylum seeker' is and the silly comment about £30 flights.
Pot, kettle etc. ...
I'm in agreement with you that we should be doing more for asylum seekers and war refugees. It seems I'd go further than you and that's a difference of opinion.
Tinhead is right. There are some who will use non carp as an excuse for other agendas. Maybe people would see me as that because I choose to challenge what I see as some nasty underlying attitudes. I can ignore the repeated personal digs. There's a line and if it's crossed then the mods can take appropriate action. These threads all too often become an echo chamber for the 'bloody immigrants ' comments and that quickly turns into more unsavoury posts.
Let's stick to serco and the fact that they're clearly a company with some serious questions to be asked, but still being given lucrative government contracts. Currently its tory government contracts so thats what i refer to. Im under no illusion that a different government could do the same. I think we are in agreement on that too.
In reply to Post #25
The asylum seeker conversation was underway, commented on by yourself, before i joined in. The discussion had gone that way. I didnt realise that the conversations werent allowed to evolve and that only the subject matter in the title was allowed to be discussed.
And questioning why someone pays £5000 to be smuggled in a dinghy from france, rather than pay £30 to fly, is a valid question, not a silly comment.
And im sure if you look, i did comment on serco aswell.
The asylum seeker conversation was underway, commented on by yourself, before i joined in. The discussion had gone that way. I didnt realise that the conversations werent allowed to evolve and that only the subject matter in the title was allowed to be discussed.
And questioning why someone pays £5000 to be smuggled in a dinghy from france, rather than pay £30 to fly, is a valid question, not a silly comment.
And im sure if you look, i did comment on serco aswell.
In reply to Post #26
Ok
Ok
In reply to Post #25
And i have no doubt you would go further for “asylum seekers” than i would. I have no doubt that you, along with gary lineker, have offered rooms in your house, to these unknowns taken out of the boats after their channel crossings.
And i have no doubt you would go further for “asylum seekers” than i would. I have no doubt that you, along with gary lineker, have offered rooms in your house, to these unknowns taken out of the boats after their channel crossings.
Plenty of cheap flights from Albania ( where a large percentage are coming from ), yet they choose to fork out £000s. No passports or documentation needed via a boat. Must have something to hide to choose that route. 🤔
In reply to Post #29
Absolutely these individuals clearly have a chequered past.
I see the plan to use a barge to house 500 male migrants off Dorset coast, a sensible precaution.
Absolutely these individuals clearly have a chequered past.
I see the plan to use a barge to house 500 male migrants off Dorset coast, a sensible precaution.
In reply to Post #30
A barge to house 500 people when there are 160000 waiting to be processed? Almost as if the government are just clutching at straws and desperate to get anything on the TV to make it look like they're doing something.
Wouldn't the money be better spent increasing their capacity to process folk, so they'd either get refused asylum, or like the vast majority, be granted asylum and be free to go about their business, find a job, pay taxes and generally contribute to society?
A barge to house 500 people when there are 160000 waiting to be processed? Almost as if the government are just clutching at straws and desperate to get anything on the TV to make it look like they're doing something.
Wouldn't the money be better spent increasing their capacity to process folk, so they'd either get refused asylum, or like the vast majority, be granted asylum and be free to go about their business, find a job, pay taxes and generally contribute to society?
In reply to Post #31
Don't forget Rwanda.
I don't know know if throwing more money at something will speed things up if there are processes to go through, I can imagine it's challenging when folk have no passports.
All into work ?.
Look how many Syrian refugees whom came to Germany during the Middle East conflict, some 800,000 less than 40% are not supported by the state so it's clearly a tough economic challenge.
Don't forget Rwanda.
I don't know know if throwing more money at something will speed things up if there are processes to go through, I can imagine it's challenging when folk have no passports.
All into work ?.
Look how many Syrian refugees whom came to Germany during the Middle East conflict, some 800,000 less than 40% are not supported by the state so it's clearly a tough economic challenge.
In reply to Post #31
Ah - the 'talking sense' approach.
It'll never work.
The barge / distraction tactic is in addition to the hotels that serco (trying to keep things thread related) are sourcing. It's just this week's appeal to the easily duped. And another one with immediate numerous objections. As you say, if they actually sorted out the system rather than increasingly making it inaccessible then they might stop the boats as people wouldn't need to resort to that option.
It would appear that 1 - the government are employing another 'but look at this' policy and 2 - serco are again being paid for not doing the job they're supposed to be doing effectively. Who'd have thought it after their huge pandemic success?
Ah - the 'talking sense' approach.
It'll never work.
The barge / distraction tactic is in addition to the hotels that serco (trying to keep things thread related) are sourcing. It's just this week's appeal to the easily duped. And another one with immediate numerous objections. As you say, if they actually sorted out the system rather than increasingly making it inaccessible then they might stop the boats as people wouldn't need to resort to that option.
It would appear that 1 - the government are employing another 'but look at this' policy and 2 - serco are again being paid for not doing the job they're supposed to be doing effectively. Who'd have thought it after their huge pandemic success?
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