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Power porter lipo battery help (28 posts / 3,719 views)
bondykk
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Post #1 7 Jan 2023 11:20
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I'm after a lipo battery for my power porter can someone point me in the right direction of which battery is best suited regarding what mah ? What discharge rating etc.. I've been looking on Ali express but totally blown by what lipo battery I actually need.. any help greatly appreciated 👍🏻
audiguypaul audiguypaul
Posts: 1,534
Post #2 7 Jan 2023 11:45
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In reply to Post #1
Try these
https://www.altbatteries.co.uk/
carpy09 carpy09
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Post #3 7 Jan 2023 13:26
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In reply to Post #1
The battery masters website sell them
Teddybare
Posts: 994
Post #4 7 Jan 2023 13:52
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In reply to Post #1
There was a bit on the website that tells you not to use Lipo batteries. They don't supply Lipo or offer them as an option in spares and accessories for this reason.
Euroboybobbin Euroboybobbin
Posts: 4,644
Post #5 8 Jan 2023 08:18
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In reply to Post #4
Quite right

The controllers are not designed for Lipo's etc only SLA so although it would work your warranty ‘in theory at least' will be voided.

Probably effect the controller over time IMO


Be carefully also with Lipo's maybe Li Ion or better still LiFe or LifePO4 safer and last much longer also better at low and high temps too.

👍
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
Posts: 1,667
Post #6 8 Jan 2023 10:50
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In reply to Post #5
I've their 24 volt version,4 yrs now, never a problem with the battery......
But when I get to my swim I always unplug it to stop any possible battery drain,also when home...great bit of kit 👍👍
sundance sundance
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Post #7 8 Jan 2023 11:55
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In reply to Post #6
I do the same. Mine is very old. Always take off the
Switch arm, and the battery. Stick them under the bed.
Then stick a waterproof cover over it. Must be over 13 years old now that
Powerporter.
bondykk
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Post #8 8 Jan 2023 14:41
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Many Thanks for the advice but I'm still unsure what MAH or voltage battery size I need ?
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #9 8 Jan 2023 14:57
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In reply to Post #8
go for the highest ah you can carry,or afford, you will get the same voltage, but the higher ah will last go further and longer.
if your carp porter is 12volt [one battery] or 24volt [two batteries] the same applies.
carp porter use lead acid, or gel batteries, lipo apart from being much more expensive are not recommended, and may even damage your components.

obviously all connections need to be clean and secured adequately.
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #10 8 Jan 2023 15:08
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In reply to Post #6
if nothing is drawing power there wont be any more battery drain than having it disconnected.
I take it you don't disconnect your cars battery.
batteries can give off flammable gases when fully charged so be careful with naked flames [cooking,smoking, etc,] when placing them anywhere.
frothey frothey
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Post #11 8 Jan 2023 17:22
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In reply to Post #10
It wont be fully charged if he's just used it to get to the swim?
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #12 8 Jan 2023 23:35
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Recharging, moving, or shaking a lead-acid battery can produce an explosive mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gases that escape through the battery's vents.
Beyonce
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Post #13 9 Jan 2023 06:16
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In reply to Post #12
You are thinking of the old tech vented 12v batteries you had to top up with water. Carp porter use modern sealed lead acid batteries.
frothey frothey
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Post #14 9 Jan 2023 07:35
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Thanks for the reply, you cant beat a good mansplain....

Do you really think a small lead acid battery (even if they weren't sales) would vent enough gas for it to explode in a tent, just from being moved? And it would vent whilst being used, so wouldn't be building up in the battery, plus how would you be charging it in the bivvy?

Apart from that, great point 👍
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
Posts: 1,667
Post #15 9 Jan 2023 09:22
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In reply to Post #10
It's just something I do with the barrow, weather it helps or not,I feel better about it😏
Of course I don't do same with car(bmw) id be looking a t all sorts of probs🤣
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #16 9 Jan 2023 10:10
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In reply to Post #14
what I think has very little to do with it,
it's basic common sense, batteries by their chemical process produce a highly explosive gas,
whether it vents,leaks through damage, or any other means its not a good idea to be close to it, smoking or cooking in proximity to it has pretty dumb, have you ever seen a battery explode? I have, the results were not pretty, it was only the guys spectacles that saved his eyes.
but then people don't always do the sensible thing do they.
a quick search will provide plenty of photos of melted bivvys,etc sometimes with fatal results.
Beyonce
Posts: 1,711
Post #17 9 Jan 2023 10:35
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In reply to Post #16
Show us a link to a bivvy that has burned down after a 12v sealed lead acid battery exploded while not on charge.
Greybeard54
Posts: 310
Post #18 9 Jan 2023 11:18
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In reply to Post #17
show me a forum without it's very own resident thrush.
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
Posts: 1,667
Post #19 9 Jan 2023 15:45
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In reply to Post #18
Taxi........
frothey frothey
Posts: 3,575
Post #20 9 Jan 2023 18:34
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In reply to Post #16
what I think has very little to do with it

Got it in one 👍

The extra size vibrator i take fishing with it uses a 24v lorry battery, and after a few complaints I have to use it with the door down. Never had a problem with gas igniting.
Teddybare
Posts: 994
Post #21 9 Jan 2023 20:28
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In reply to Post #17
There was one knocking about of a melted bivvie caursed by a Ridgemonkey charger going tits up.
Beyonce
Posts: 1,711
Post #22 9 Jan 2023 20:42
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In reply to Post #21
The ridge monkey chargers don't use lead acid batteries.
Teddybare
Posts: 994
Post #23 9 Jan 2023 20:54
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In reply to Post #22
I know. Everything Ridgemonkey make will burn your bivvie down.
JasonM JasonM
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Post #24 9 Jan 2023 21:19
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SLAs are not considered flammable.

If there is a fire they will burn, if you short or overcharge them their is a risk they'll catch fire.

SLAs are used in uninterruptible power supplies (UPS) for computer / IT equipment backup from a power outage. So suitable for indoor usage.

Though I would keep them and all battery packs in a safe place (a box, away from the bivvy) when not in use.
bondykk
Posts: 3,202
Post #25 14 Feb 2023 20:55
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Couid someone with knowledge of power barrow batteries please let me know if this battery size wouid be compatable and give me enough power to run my barrow? Don't want to purchase and it's not the right one .. spec of battery below of what I'm looking to purchase 👍🏻 Thanks in advance

Lithium Battery 6S 22.2V 6000mAh 30C XT90
Euroboybobbin Euroboybobbin
Posts: 4,644
Post #26 15 Feb 2023 09:03
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In reply to Post #25
This will only be suitable if your controller and motor accepts Lithium power source.

If it's for a SLA (old 12-24v) this won't be suitable unless you wanna risk your whole barrow!!

If you have a conversion like Globals do then that battery will defo be ok.




roman
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Post #27 15 Feb 2023 09:12
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bondykk
Posts: 3,202
Post #28 15 Feb 2023 17:19
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In reply to Post #26
Thanks... I have a electric wheel conversion with thumb throttle , brushless motor etc that was off Ali express, barrow was working fine with the previous batteries I had off yourself , however I haven't used the barrow or charged the batteries in over 15mts ..so after another battery just needed to know the one I mentioned previous post is gonna be ok 👍🏻

Lithium Battery 6S 22.2V 6000mAh 30C XT90
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