So my mate has some ponds...and stocked some nice looking carp in one of them.
They bred and now he has loads of little 5" to 6" mirrors/commons...some of which are ghosties.
We've been catching them 30-50 at a time when we get an hour to spare and putting them into a smaller pond, so they don't get in the way of fishing for the bigger originals.
There's loads of them...and they are really pretty fish, every single one of them.
I toyed with the idea of slipping a few into the local river(s) so I can fish for them in 5-10years when they've matured but don't want to break any Enviro Agency rules..SO HAVEN'T done that.
It's a shame not to pass them onto a lake/club that might want them.
Where (other than here!) can I look for people who'd want these fish?
They bred and now he has loads of little 5" to 6" mirrors/commons...some of which are ghosties.
We've been catching them 30-50 at a time when we get an hour to spare and putting them into a smaller pond, so they don't get in the way of fishing for the bigger originals.
There's loads of them...and they are really pretty fish, every single one of them.
I toyed with the idea of slipping a few into the local river(s) so I can fish for them in 5-10years when they've matured but don't want to break any Enviro Agency rules..SO HAVEN'T done that.
It's a shame not to pass them onto a lake/club that might want them.
Where (other than here!) can I look for people who'd want these fish?
In reply to Post #1
I think he'll struggle to find a club or fishery willing to take any without a health check and even then they wouldn't sell for much. There seems to be an abundance of small carp being sold for very little this year. I think having some ornamental strain in them would make any owner even more wary of them. It would me.
I think he'll struggle to find a club or fishery willing to take any without a health check and even then they wouldn't sell for much. There seems to be an abundance of small carp being sold for very little this year. I think having some ornamental strain in them would make any owner even more wary of them. It would me.
In reply to Post #1
Feed them to foxes or similar, the best thing you can do. Unless you can get proper health certificate of course.
Feed them to foxes or similar, the best thing you can do. Unless you can get proper health certificate of course.
We did think that some kind of health certificate would be needed...and that would be a reasonable ask
They're too nice for fox food...and anyway I don't like foxes 😂
With regards to ornamentals, the 11 original fish were purchased from a fish farmer. I'm not sure if they came with certificates or not...they certainly weren't ornamentals from a random pond thrown in 😜
They're too nice for fox food...and anyway I don't like foxes 😂
With regards to ornamentals, the 11 original fish were purchased from a fish farmer. I'm not sure if they came with certificates or not...they certainly weren't ornamentals from a random pond thrown in 😜
In reply to Post #4
I think you need a section 30 certificate to move/stock fish for profit.
Ornamentals make people nervous as rightly or wrongly they are perceived to be more at risk from KHV what then can wipe out the originals.
He'd be better off putting an advert on Facebook and selling them off cheap to people who want them for their own ponds.
I think you need a section 30 certificate to move/stock fish for profit.
Ornamentals make people nervous as rightly or wrongly they are perceived to be more at risk from KHV what then can wipe out the originals.
He'd be better off putting an advert on Facebook and selling them off cheap to people who want them for their own ponds.
In reply to Post #5
My local pond (Victoria Park London) keeps getting stocked up By every Tom dick and Harry after the council removed all the fish a few years ago. Sadly the cormorants get most of the because they are too small..
My local pond (Victoria Park London) keeps getting stocked up By every Tom dick and Harry after the council removed all the fish a few years ago. Sadly the cormorants get most of the because they are too small..
Aquatic shop..?
In reply to Post #7
If the body of water is closed then a health check isnt required.
Most waters would want them. Is it ghostie coming through, or is it spots of orange etc on "normal" coloured carp?
Fisheries management page on FB would be a shout.
If the body of water is closed then a health check isnt required.
Most waters would want them. Is it ghostie coming through, or is it spots of orange etc on "normal" coloured carp?
Fisheries management page on FB would be a shout.
In reply to Post #1
I would be tempted to dig a 2 acre pond - force feed them with tons of high oil pellet, dig 30 swims, some bark chip and fake grass - wait until they are all 40s (hopefully in a year) then charge £80 a day. Keep or two back get them to a British record weight then charge £120 per 24 hours and plaster the pictures on social media saying old estate lake grown from babies real UK carp.
#winning
I would be tempted to dig a 2 acre pond - force feed them with tons of high oil pellet, dig 30 swims, some bark chip and fake grass - wait until they are all 40s (hopefully in a year) then charge £80 a day. Keep or two back get them to a British record weight then charge £120 per 24 hours and plaster the pictures on social media saying old estate lake grown from babies real UK carp.
#winning
In reply to Post #9
Wouldn't make enough money to tolerate the type of people that would be fishing there.
Wouldn't make enough money to tolerate the type of people that would be fishing there.
It's a closed off venue that was dug 3 years ago from scratch.
Here's an example of the carp....hundreds of these...
Here's an example of the carp....hundreds of these...
In reply to Post #11
Very nice
Very nice
so many people are dumping these blooming poxy Sturgeon in our rivers that have grown too big for their ponds it would be nice to see these lovely Carp ending up in our rivers instead
In reply to Post #11
That is a stunner...
I hope these babies find a good home, it's a shame you don't have a stock pond as sounds like you have a perfect succession plan scenario.
That is a stunner...
I hope these babies find a good home, it's a shame you don't have a stock pond as sounds like you have a perfect succession plan scenario.
Have you approached any angling clubs?
In reply to Post #16
No, not yet. Thought I'd put this post up in case people had any experience doing this sort of thing.
There are a few local clubs, would be good to find a club with some stock ponds so they could bring these fish on themselves...
No, not yet. Thought I'd put this post up in case people had any experience doing this sort of thing.
There are a few local clubs, would be good to find a club with some stock ponds so they could bring these fish on themselves...
In reply to Post #17
I was recommended 'Angling Projects' by a member here when I enquired about donating excess kit, they're legitimate and have their own water,Les Webber (MBE) is the main man .
https://www.angling-projects.org
I was recommended 'Angling Projects' by a member here when I enquired about donating excess kit, they're legitimate and have their own water,Les Webber (MBE) is the main man .
https://www.angling-projects.org
In reply to Post #13
I know of several 'well known' anglers who've moved small fish like those into the thames from waters with a good blood line. I know this because they've told me when i was discussing it with them. These fish are now being caught and will help offset the losses from seals and otters
I know of several 'well known' anglers who've moved small fish like those into the thames from waters with a good blood line. I know this because they've told me when i was discussing it with them. These fish are now being caught and will help offset the losses from seals and otters
In reply to Post #1
Bound to be some local club/match lakes that would benefit from them even if they were given/donated to them rather than have no outsource for them a bit like Mark Bryant of Baitworks donating a load of small carp to Bitterwell lake in Bristol giving back to a match lake he started his fishing on.
Its a lot easier these days to get a site permit to stock fish into your fishery, moving them out for resale like a carp farm is a bit more involved, resale of course fish some use the like's of Ian Welby of Blueroof an independent fish health specialist to examine a percentage of the fish to see if he can give them a clean bill of health for resale, if approved the certificate is then lodged with the EA at Huntingdon and are then used in a Section 30 stocking consent process.
Bound to be some local club/match lakes that would benefit from them even if they were given/donated to them rather than have no outsource for them a bit like Mark Bryant of Baitworks donating a load of small carp to Bitterwell lake in Bristol giving back to a match lake he started his fishing on.
Its a lot easier these days to get a site permit to stock fish into your fishery, moving them out for resale like a carp farm is a bit more involved, resale of course fish some use the like's of Ian Welby of Blueroof an independent fish health specialist to examine a percentage of the fish to see if he can give them a clean bill of health for resale, if approved the certificate is then lodged with the EA at Huntingdon and are then used in a Section 30 stocking consent process.
I belong to a Northern club that spent a ton of money on carp only for the otters to eat them its a sickening
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