Just got myself a Daiwa GS4000LTD reel for floater fishing and have noticed it's making a squeaking noise when the handle is turned slowly. Doesn't squeak when turned quickly, like on a retrieve.
Thought the spool might be misaligned and rubbing somehow so undid the drag and took it off, but still squeaks without the spool on, so must be something rubbing inside the reel or on the rotor.
Anyone have any ideas? Wondering whether to return it or whether it will sort itself out after a little bit of use.
Thought the spool might be misaligned and rubbing somehow so undid the drag and took it off, but still squeaks without the spool on, so must be something rubbing inside the reel or on the rotor.
Anyone have any ideas? Wondering whether to return it or whether it will sort itself out after a little bit of use.
In reply to Post #1
Not hard to remove the handle and take the side cover off...Probably lack of lubricant...most new reels I open up seem to have next to none.
Not hard to remove the handle and take the side cover off...Probably lack of lubricant...most new reels I open up seem to have next to none.
In reply to Post #2
What lubricant would you recommend? I have wd40 on hand.
What lubricant would you recommend? I have wd40 on hand.
In reply to Post #3
WD40 will strip your reel of lubricant, use some reel oil on the handle and grease on the insides
WD40 will strip your reel of lubricant, use some reel oil on the handle and grease on the insides
In reply to Post #3
NOT Wd-40 it is not a lubricant - clean a reel with it yes, but then it needs greasing and oiling
buy a proper reel oil and grease daiwa, shimano, Penn, Ardent all do the job if you do a bit of searching there a various marine and other industry types suggested - but the above mentioned are fine
NOT Wd-40 it is not a lubricant - clean a reel with it yes, but then it needs greasing and oiling
buy a proper reel oil and grease daiwa, shimano, Penn, Ardent all do the job if you do a bit of searching there a various marine and other industry types suggested - but the above mentioned are fine
In reply to Post #2
I use 90 weight gear oil in a tiny bottle and automotive grease and something similar to 3 in one for different parts....that's because that's what I have in the garage. I don't deliberately immerse reels and I do dry them after use...It works for me.
I use 90 weight gear oil in a tiny bottle and automotive grease and something similar to 3 in one for different parts....that's because that's what I have in the garage. I don't deliberately immerse reels and I do dry them after use...It works for me.
In reply to Post #5
Stupid q. The oil goes where and the grease goes where?
Stupid q. The oil goes where and the grease goes where?
In reply to Post #7
Err...perhaps you should just send it back as you first planned.
Err...perhaps you should just send it back as you first planned.
In reply to Post #1
Before you take it apart, I would talk to your supplier about the squeak.
If it's just lack of grease and you can put that right then all would be well, however if it's a misalignment of some sort and it needs to go back then they might point the finger of blame your way.
Before you take it apart, I would talk to your supplier about the squeak.
If it's just lack of grease and you can put that right then all would be well, however if it's a misalignment of some sort and it needs to go back then they might point the finger of blame your way.
In reply to Post #11
Got 3 of these and never had a problem in the 3 years I've used them. Lovely reels.
Got 3 of these and never had a problem in the 3 years I've used them. Lovely reels.
In reply to Post #1
I wouldn't even attempt to fix it as you don't know what's causing it, could be something not screwed together right or a miss alignment or a component damaged in transit or when first assembled.
Send it back.
It seems when we buy fishing gear we forget our consumer rights.
I wouldn't even attempt to fix it as you don't know what's causing it, could be something not screwed together right or a miss alignment or a component damaged in transit or when first assembled.
Send it back.
It seems when we buy fishing gear we forget our consumer rights.
In reply to Post #13
More than likely the one way clutch bearing, does the noise persist if you switch the anti reverse off mate
More than likely the one way clutch bearing, does the noise persist if you switch the anti reverse off mate
In reply to Post #14
You've nailed it mate. Turned it off and the squeak is gone. Do I need to grease the bearing to stop it squeaking when it's on?
Tbh I use the reel over the weekend and outdoors in general fishing use I didn't really notice the noise at all.
You've nailed it mate. Turned it off and the squeak is gone. Do I need to grease the bearing to stop it squeaking when it's on?
Tbh I use the reel over the weekend and outdoors in general fishing use I didn't really notice the noise at all.
In reply to Post #15
No unfortunately if you grease it, it may well slip or cease to work properly . It most likely needs a clean which will involve taking the rotor off. There should be a little top cover holding the pinion gear, bearing and antireverse bearing in place. Undo and remove these parts noting the order they came out. The antireverse bearing will have a series of slots and possibly an outer shroud to keep the pins in place.the proper way to do this is to remove all the pins and clean individually but a quicker method but not as thorough as by using a wet wipe, rotate it around the inside of the bearing , you will see the dirt on the wipe, repeat until there's no dirt then using a soft cloth or kitchen towel, dry well don't forget to clean the collar that sits inside this too and reassemble.
No unfortunately if you grease it, it may well slip or cease to work properly . It most likely needs a clean which will involve taking the rotor off. There should be a little top cover holding the pinion gear, bearing and antireverse bearing in place. Undo and remove these parts noting the order they came out. The antireverse bearing will have a series of slots and possibly an outer shroud to keep the pins in place.the proper way to do this is to remove all the pins and clean individually but a quicker method but not as thorough as by using a wet wipe, rotate it around the inside of the bearing , you will see the dirt on the wipe, repeat until there's no dirt then using a soft cloth or kitchen towel, dry well don't forget to clean the collar that sits inside this too and reassemble.
In reply to Post #11
Mine squeak under load from new, I just put it down to daiwa "character"
I don't like them, but since I hate the rods they're mounted on they haven't been used much
Mine squeak under load from new, I just put it down to daiwa "character"
I don't like them, but since I hate the rods they're mounted on they haven't been used much
In reply to Post #17
Mine have also squeaked from new but only just able to hear it and never got worse and I like them for close in work on lite tc rods as they are nicely balanced, have a progressive drag and do all I need and we're cheap when I bought them , they have I think been discontinued so hope they last a lot longer
Mine have also squeaked from new but only just able to hear it and never got worse and I like them for close in work on lite tc rods as they are nicely balanced, have a progressive drag and do all I need and we're cheap when I bought them , they have I think been discontinued so hope they last a lot longer
In reply to Post #18
They're just a bit quick for my taste, most of my fishing is with a centrepin so I get fed up with fixed spools when you have to pump the rod to get three strands of weed moving. I got them for some cheap 10ft rods to use on a park lake after a labrador barely cleared my Harrisons while chasing a ball, but ended up catching all but one of the fish I wanted with my pin rod
I don't think there is such a thing as a small reel with a slow retrieve (4-1 would be nice) or they may have been replaced.
They're just a bit quick for my taste, most of my fishing is with a centrepin so I get fed up with fixed spools when you have to pump the rod to get three strands of weed moving. I got them for some cheap 10ft rods to use on a park lake after a labrador barely cleared my Harrisons while chasing a ball, but ended up catching all but one of the fish I wanted with my pin rod
I don't think there is such a thing as a small reel with a slow retrieve (4-1 would be nice) or they may have been replaced.
In reply to Post #19
I'm not overly surprised by all the comments regarding squeeking as The antireverse bearing is a pretty basic version with no metal shroud and the spring mechanism is little plastic v's set at the appropriate angle to push the pins into position on the collar , although adequate they are not the quickest reacting mechanism and any kind of grease or dirt ingress can make them sound quite ropey, they're not very well toleranced either so it may just be that they are not sitting against the collar particularly well.
I'm not overly surprised by all the comments regarding squeeking as The antireverse bearing is a pretty basic version with no metal shroud and the spring mechanism is little plastic v's set at the appropriate angle to push the pins into position on the collar , although adequate they are not the quickest reacting mechanism and any kind of grease or dirt ingress can make them sound quite ropey, they're not very well toleranced either so it may just be that they are not sitting against the collar particularly well.
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