Hi Gents,
Last week my Trakker Summit Jacket let me down big time in a downpour. I was soaked through! It's only about a year old, so thought it should still be fairly waterproof, but I remember my aqua F12 losing its effectiveness quite quickly. Is it a throw away job, or is it worth trying to reproof it with Nikwax or similar?
Any advice appreciated, thanks.
Last week my Trakker Summit Jacket let me down big time in a downpour. I was soaked through! It's only about a year old, so thought it should still be fairly waterproof, but I remember my aqua F12 losing its effectiveness quite quickly. Is it a throw away job, or is it worth trying to reproof it with Nikwax or similar?
Any advice appreciated, thanks.
In reply to Post #1
Forget nikwax - use Fabsil Gold in a pump sprayer - job done
Forget nikwax - use Fabsil Gold in a pump sprayer - job done
In reply to Post #1
Here's a link to the Nikwax page on cleaning.
If you just add waterproofer on top of the grime that builds up after a year of use, it won't work particularly well. You have to use the cleaner first to remove everything and then use the proofer after. If you do it in the washing machine, clean out the drawers first as in the video as normal washing powders hinder the process.
I've had "whatever-tex" jackets for years and after about a year they do start to lose their repellency but the Nikwax treatment keeps them going. Try running a tap over the jacket before and the water does tend to cling. Repeat after the treatment and it just runs off and a quick flick removes the rest.
Here's a link to the Nikwax page on cleaning.
If you just add waterproofer on top of the grime that builds up after a year of use, it won't work particularly well. You have to use the cleaner first to remove everything and then use the proofer after. If you do it in the washing machine, clean out the drawers first as in the video as normal washing powders hinder the process.
I've had "whatever-tex" jackets for years and after about a year they do start to lose their repellency but the Nikwax treatment keeps them going. Try running a tap over the jacket before and the water does tend to cling. Repeat after the treatment and it just runs off and a quick flick removes the rest.
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Agree with the cleaning aspect but in my experience Nikwax needs constant reapplication - preferably sprayed direct and not the wash in treatment. Personally wouldnt use Fabsil with high end Goretex / breathable technical fabrics but with a fishing type product (like the Trakker Summit stuff which I've owned) Fabsil is a much more long lasting and effective solution - breathability may be compromised but its not like your climbing up or skiing down a mountain - your sitting on your arse in the rain - therefore you need the most effective water barrier . . .
Agree with the cleaning aspect but in my experience Nikwax needs constant reapplication - preferably sprayed direct and not the wash in treatment. Personally wouldnt use Fabsil with high end Goretex / breathable technical fabrics but with a fishing type product (like the Trakker Summit stuff which I've owned) Fabsil is a much more long lasting and effective solution - breathability may be compromised but its not like your climbing up or skiing down a mountain - your sitting on your arse in the rain - therefore you need the most effective water barrier . . .
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I haven't tried Fabsil on my coats but did revive my brolly system with it after first cleaning with their solution. The brolly wasn't actually leaking but was getting heavy and taking ages to dry as the dampness was clinging to it. After doing it, a quick shake flung off all the beaded water droplets.
I haven't tried Fabsil on my coats but did revive my brolly system with it after first cleaning with their solution. The brolly wasn't actually leaking but was getting heavy and taking ages to dry as the dampness was clinging to it. After doing it, a quick shake flung off all the beaded water droplets.
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Disagree Gerry I'm afraid - the Repel X (with additional fluorocarbons) was brilliant but has been discontinued which is a shame . . the new 'environmentally friendly' variants are nowhere near as good IME
Disagree Gerry I'm afraid - the Repel X (with additional fluorocarbons) was brilliant but has been discontinued which is a shame . . the new 'environmentally friendly' variants are nowhere near as good IME
Thanks for the replies men. I think I'll give Fabsil Gold a go, cheers 👍
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yes you can disagree of course
but I used it on a couple of coats when it first came out and its been brilliant and I will continue to use it Grangers are not idiots and when they bring out a product specifically for modern clothing IMO it makes sense to use it
LINKY POO
yes you can disagree of course
but I used it on a couple of coats when it first came out and its been brilliant and I will continue to use it Grangers are not idiots and when they bring out a product specifically for modern clothing IMO it makes sense to use it
LINKY POO
In reply to Post #1
Nikwax tech wash - works brilliantly to get the dwr back. Another option, just get a better jacket - nothing Trakker make is very waterproof - had a right laugh watching a mate get soaked through in his brand new Trakker one piece... just get a decent Gortex jacket, never get wet again. I have a couple of Simms jackets for fishing, just awesome. Most carp gear is crap, look at what people use to fish from boats if you want decent...
Nikwax tech wash - works brilliantly to get the dwr back. Another option, just get a better jacket - nothing Trakker make is very waterproof - had a right laugh watching a mate get soaked through in his brand new Trakker one piece... just get a decent Gortex jacket, never get wet again. I have a couple of Simms jackets for fishing, just awesome. Most carp gear is crap, look at what people use to fish from boats if you want decent...
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Fishing clothing, sat about or tents, Fabsil for me, super water repellant
Nikwax and Grainger's, walking or active pastimes for me
Fishing clothing, sat about or tents, Fabsil for me, super water repellant
Nikwax and Grainger's, walking or active pastimes for me
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just get a decent Gortex jacket, never get wet again. I have a couple of Simms jackets for fishing, just awesome. Most carp gear is crap, look at what people use to fish from boats if you want decent...
Agree
One thing I never get though is why people have an obsession with waterproof clothing for fishing. It's a pastime where we are sat on our arses most of the time and under some kind of shelter. If people sit out in the rain all day more the fool them. Look at what trawler men wear, PVC, 100% water proof, no fancy treatments or membranes etc. Let's face it, we get a fish, it's raining, chuck a shell on, do the business, take it off, give it a shake, sit in your base layers, breathable and comfortable
Shelter or nylon brolly for me, I have an army poncho if I am travelling really light and sat out in it
just get a decent Gortex jacket, never get wet again. I have a couple of Simms jackets for fishing, just awesome. Most carp gear is crap, look at what people use to fish from boats if you want decent...
Agree
One thing I never get though is why people have an obsession with waterproof clothing for fishing. It's a pastime where we are sat on our arses most of the time and under some kind of shelter. If people sit out in the rain all day more the fool them. Look at what trawler men wear, PVC, 100% water proof, no fancy treatments or membranes etc. Let's face it, we get a fish, it's raining, chuck a shell on, do the business, take it off, give it a shake, sit in your base layers, breathable and comfortable
Shelter or nylon brolly for me, I have an army poncho if I am travelling really light and sat out in it
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Agree with this - biggest problem with fishing gear wetting out is all the sh*t / slime / oils / dirt that gets engrained - this affects its water repellence - actually washing it regularly with a grangers type product and them simply tumble drying on a v low heat will return it to its former glory nine times out of ten . . . personally with the cheaper fishing kit (eg Korda Drykore) I feel Fabsil gives it a greater dirt resistance and lasts longer
Agree with this - biggest problem with fishing gear wetting out is all the sh*t / slime / oils / dirt that gets engrained - this affects its water repellence - actually washing it regularly with a grangers type product and them simply tumble drying on a v low heat will return it to its former glory nine times out of ten . . . personally with the cheaper fishing kit (eg Korda Drykore) I feel Fabsil gives it a greater dirt resistance and lasts longer
Little trick I do is only wear my Goretex jacket
When absolutely necessary. At all other times it stays in
It's mesh bag.
I bought it in Canada about 14 years ago and it still
Beads like its new. Its not just the dirt, the friction of wearing a waterproof, rubbing on chairs etc removes the DWR.
So no insulated coats with a waterproof outer that need washing or wearing all day in the cold.
When absolutely necessary. At all other times it stays in
It's mesh bag.
I bought it in Canada about 14 years ago and it still
Beads like its new. Its not just the dirt, the friction of wearing a waterproof, rubbing on chairs etc removes the DWR.
So no insulated coats with a waterproof outer that need washing or wearing all day in the cold.
In reply to Post #1
I use Gtechniq i1 smart fabric. It's actually for waterproofing convertible car roofs, fabric seats etc but works a treat on coats. Just spray it on, leave to dry and job done. It's breathable too.
I use Gtechniq i1 smart fabric. It's actually for waterproofing convertible car roofs, fabric seats etc but works a treat on coats. Just spray it on, leave to dry and job done. It's breathable too.
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That looks interesting - can you use it on bivvies too?
That looks interesting - can you use it on bivvies too?
In reply to Post #16
I don't see why not, you can use it on any fabric. I'm actually going to give my brolly a coat of it soon.
I don't see why not, you can use it on any fabric. I'm actually going to give my brolly a coat of it soon.
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