DMPT was developed for crustacean farming in the sea. What tells us that its attractive for carp?
In reply to Post #1
There are papers done on carp too.
Try to google "A New Feeding Attractant, Dimethyl-β-propiothetin, for Freshwater Fish"
There are papers done on carp too.
Try to google "A New Feeding Attractant, Dimethyl-β-propiothetin, for Freshwater Fish"
In reply to Post #1
Just try it. Hookbaits only. Dissolve some in Minamino and mix that solution with liquid liver and glug some hookbaits
Just try it. Hookbaits only. Dissolve some in Minamino and mix that solution with liquid liver and glug some hookbaits
In reply to Post #3
Im using it already but havent noticed any differences to my bait without it.
Why not using it in smaller doses in my feeding bait the exckusively in my hookbaits?
Im using it already but havent noticed any differences to my bait without it.
Why not using it in smaller doses in my feeding bait the exckusively in my hookbaits?
In reply to Post #4
Legislation. It's not allowed lol.
Keep trying it, very easy to over and under do. It's a worth while inclusion when you find the right levels
Legislation. It's not allowed lol.
Keep trying it, very easy to over and under do. It's a worth while inclusion when you find the right levels
In reply to Post #1
I played with it in a few mixes, going from almost trace amounts up to blow your socks off absolutely ridiculously overdone. I didn't find it made a whole heap of difference. I suspect it's not that temperature tolerant, and was possibly boiling off, so I now prefer to just use it as an overspray on the finished dried baits.
Edit: I don't actually mean I boil my baits, but simmers off of stews off doesn't sound right but you get my drift
I played with it in a few mixes, going from almost trace amounts up to blow your socks off absolutely ridiculously overdone. I didn't find it made a whole heap of difference. I suspect it's not that temperature tolerant, and was possibly boiling off, so I now prefer to just use it as an overspray on the finished dried baits.
Edit: I don't actually mean I boil my baits, but simmers off of stews off doesn't sound right but you get my drift
In reply to Post #3
How much per 1 egg mate ?
How much per 1 egg mate ?
Im already including it in my bait i dont have a jewelrs scale so im using a measuring spoon i got with the dmpt at the moment im using half a measuring spoon per 1,5kg and then a full measuring spoon after boiling and drying for apr. 8-9kg of bait but i havent noticed any difference in catch rate or anything tbh
In reply to Post #8
Hookbaits only in the EU I believe, maybe don't spout about putting it in feed baits lol
Hookbaits only in the EU I believe, maybe don't spout about putting it in feed baits lol
In reply to Post #9
i make hookbaits in large quantities 😉
i make hookbaits in large quantities 😉
In reply to Post #10
Don't want to come across as the morality police, however if there's a E.U.ban then it's for a good reason, and shouldn't be ignored. Even if it's not punishable by law or ever likely to be inspected or enforced.
Don't want to come across as the morality police, however if there's a E.U.ban then it's for a good reason, and shouldn't be ignored. Even if it's not punishable by law or ever likely to be inspected or enforced.
Hugely overrated, like so many 'wonder' attractors these days.
In reply to Post #11
Do you know the reason it's banned in the EU and only for hookbaits in the UK?
Do you know the reason it's banned in the EU and only for hookbaits in the UK?
In reply to Post #12
that was my opinion on it too i still was curious about other people experiences with it.
that was my opinion on it too i still was curious about other people experiences with it.
In reply to Post #13
No. I don't and don't have the time to read the scientific papers to back it up. I'm sure they wouldn't bother to ban something most people have never heard of without a good reason.
No. I don't and don't have the time to read the scientific papers to back it up. I'm sure they wouldn't bother to ban something most people have never heard of without a good reason.
In reply to Post #14
That was my opinion too. Bought a pot after all the blurb, never had an improve in catch rates whatsoever or something that suggests it. The pot is still half empty now, I'm sure that it will take a long time to use it all, if I will ever do it.
That was my opinion too. Bought a pot after all the blurb, never had an improve in catch rates whatsoever or something that suggests it. The pot is still half empty now, I'm sure that it will take a long time to use it all, if I will ever do it.
In reply to Post #12
“Cough” Robin red “cough”
“Cough” Robin red “cough”
It's effective but it's sensitive. Absolutely pointless pre cooking. And a lot of what's sold despite being pretty crystals isn't pure, it's much better in a soak. And it's one of those that doesn't have a lot of room for error between not enough and too much.
Carp are very very sensitive creatures bear in mind
Carp are very very sensitive creatures bear in mind
In reply to Post #18
mine smells kinda like sauerkraut or something similar?
mine smells kinda like sauerkraut or something similar?
In reply to Post #17
"Cough" Spectrum Baits "cough"
"Cough" Spectrum Baits "cough"
In reply to Post #20
IMHO, DMPT isn´t worth the hassle
Too much faffing around, chasing your own tail, in order to get it right, and when you finally do, the rewards aren´t worth the initial trials. 
Best to keep it simple, and forget about "wonder ingredients" that will get carp crawling up ye lines
Ain´t happening, mate 
Use the basic tried and tested attractors that´ve been around for ages, that do the job. Learn to use and maximize their effectiveness, FIRST, under the right conditions. Then again, if you choose to experiment, then go ahead by all means, till the next "wonder attractor" enters the scene, and leads you astray, once again.
No-one that has already extensively tested DMPT, so far, has given a definitive answer to your question, for some reason or another Served on a silver platter OR put the work in & learn from your mistakes, come to mind
As far as i´m aware, DMPT is best used, in a liquid mixture in which the minor component (DMPT) is uniformly distributed within the major component (water etc), then your hookbaits are soaked in this solution. No heat treatment involved. As to the exact ratio of DMPT to solvent, i have no idea, and have personally chosen not to pursue. I have heard mentioned, half a teaspoon to a liter of water, if memory serves me right, but could be way off. I tend to be VERY cautious, when dealing with certain ingredients that require "minute" doses. 
IMHO, DMPT isn´t worth the hassle
Too much faffing around, chasing your own tail, in order to get it right, and when you finally do, the rewards aren´t worth the initial trials. Best to keep it simple, and forget about "wonder ingredients" that will get carp crawling up ye lines
Ain´t happening, mate Use the basic tried and tested attractors that´ve been around for ages, that do the job. Learn to use and maximize their effectiveness, FIRST, under the right conditions. Then again, if you choose to experiment, then go ahead by all means, till the next "wonder attractor" enters the scene, and leads you astray, once again. No-one that has already extensively tested DMPT, so far, has given a definitive answer to your question, for some reason or another
Served on a silver platter OR put the work in & learn from your mistakes, come to mind As far as i´m aware, DMPT is best used, in a liquid mixture in which the minor component (DMPT) is uniformly distributed within the major component (water etc), then your hookbaits are soaked in this solution. No heat treatment involved. As to the exact ratio of DMPT to solvent, i have no idea, and have personally chosen not to pursue. I have heard mentioned, half a teaspoon to a liter of water, if memory serves me right, but could be way off.
I tend to be VERY cautious, when dealing with certain ingredients that require "minute" doses.
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