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Is it healthy? (16 posts / 6,706 views)
Andydave
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Post #1 18 Oct 2021 13:29
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So flicking through social media and I stumbled across a page that was advertising trips abroad to a lake in Holland, with headlines that their fish are putting on 15lbs in weight in 6 months!! Can that be a healthy grow rate for a carp? Or can we expect to see these all go belly up within 15 years because of health issues??
squeezedfishy
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Post #3 20 Oct 2021 02:25
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It's a staggering growth rate, I did a double take when I saw it. It would be foolish for the owner to put his stock at jeopardy though when he's paid the expense to have them all microchipped and the lake freshly re-done.
From speaking with the company listing the lake the fish see a lot of bait per week and are the euro-aqua strain carp so I assume are capable of taking it. Only time will tell though!
darkoL darkoL
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Post #4 20 Oct 2021 16:56
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Lol people are advertising all sorts of **** but carp gaining 15lb is not that uncommon in europe...
Andy_P Andy_P
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Post #5 20 Oct 2021 18:41
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It's not common to gain 15lb in 6 months, for a carp to add 2.5lb every month for 6 months sounds ludicrous to me. Don't get me wrong a fish can easily put on 2.5lb in a month, but not carry on doing it for six.
Even if it did, what on earth would that fish look like
Old-Cornishman
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Post #6 20 Oct 2021 18:59
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That's exactly my thoughts.
Aside from the health issues I'm sure I can't be alone in hating the look of carp that have a big saggy gut or even the ones that look like they have swallowed a giant rugby ball.

Andydave
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Post #7 20 Oct 2021 19:08
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I've never seen any fishery advertise those sort of weight gains. It's very clear what the owner wants to do, essentially euro aqua 2.0
johnnyfubar johnnyfubar
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Post #8 23 Oct 2021 14:27
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Hi Dave,

Those types of weight gains aren't uncommon at all when you look at Eastern Europe or Eastern Western Europe if that makes sense.
Due to the high temp changes between summer and winter and the shorter seasons the "teenagers" will pack on that kind of weight in a summer, but it's not year on year as your fishery seems to be advertising. I agree with others, somewhat misleading

Best

Jon
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #21 31 Jan 2022 12:46
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Even if it did, what on earth would that fish look like 
Probably like the Fat Lady...
SilureMark
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Post #22 4 Feb 2022 21:04
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So you're saying my UK PB is a minga? Not sure many people who worked so hard to catch that magnificent fish would agree with you on that one
bluebeat13
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Post #23 4 Feb 2022 21:15
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One of the best. The Darrell Peck photo with her is one of my favourite shots. I love the fact she was in a relatively large and low stock pit and looks so huge she could have been hand fed wagyu in a Japanese koi bath. She must have just eaten everything in sight the big old girl.
Andydave
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Post #24 4 Feb 2022 21:27
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I think he's saying it's a big fat fish, which when you look at it, that's exactly what it is
Old-Cornishman
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Post #25 5 Feb 2022 09:41
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Going the other way one of my haunts has been a small lake that the carp used to survive mainly on natural food. When I started there the carp were 9 to 25 ish, long and lean but always in pristine condition.
After 30 years they have grown slowly with weights now being in the 14 to 35 range, so would that growth rate be considered healthy by most on here?
AleksShamles
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Post #26 18 Feb 2022 08:24
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55s 55s
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Post #27 18 Feb 2022 10:09
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They are using the tried and tested Marriage technology. They introduce the females to a male when at a low weight, put a ring on their fins then they go on an unprecedented feeding frenzy for a coup,e of years.
The only downside is off spring, sulking and being very lively when caught
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #28 18 Feb 2022 14:04
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 #24
Going the other way one of my haunts has been a small lake that the carp used to survive mainly on natural food. When I started there the carp were 9 to 25 ish, long and lean but always in pristine condition.
After 30 years they have grown slowly with weights now being in the 14 to 35 range, so would that growth rate be considered healthy by most on here?


Carp can grow for the majority of their lives until they reach the top weight for the strain of fish and the water
It is likely that on the limited amount of natural food they had reached the top weight that they could.
When anglers baits started contributing the fish were able to grow more.

I reckon is healthy.

A lake I have mentioned on another thread was rarely fished by carp anglers, and the carp had a top weight of 20 maybe 22lb. I had a picture of a scale perfect Leney mirror with scattered scales, weighing 17lb. After 3 years of being able to feed on anglers baits it had gone up to 23lb. Another sandy coloured fish had pushed 30lb.
BalanceB BalanceB
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Post #29 8 Apr 2022 13:01
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