Hi all,
can anyone recommend some heavyish PTFE bobbins which i can put an isotope in, with a ball clip at the top and attach to a solar chain? 2ozs or more I guess. Custom tackle have some but are on the light side.
thanks in advance,
Dave
can anyone recommend some heavyish PTFE bobbins which i can put an isotope in, with a ball clip at the top and attach to a solar chain? 2ozs or more I guess. Custom tackle have some but are on the light side.
thanks in advance,
Dave
In reply to Post #1
Keith at defiant will make you some in any size you like.
Keith at defiant will make you some in any size you like.
In reply to Post #2
that's an option - thanks.
that's an option - thanks.
In reply to Post #1
I had some custom made PTFE bobbins made by Dobbins Bobbins on FB, I went with the ball bearing clip integral to the head (like slap heads). You can contact him through FB/Messenger and disscuss your requirements, I am pleased with mine well made can have isotope slot milled in mine fit MCF chains but can be made to fit other threads.
Michael
I had some custom made PTFE bobbins made by Dobbins Bobbins on FB, I went with the ball bearing clip integral to the head (like slap heads). You can contact him through FB/Messenger and disscuss your requirements, I am pleased with mine well made can have isotope slot milled in mine fit MCF chains but can be made to fit other threads.
Michael
In reply to Post #1
Cygnet do some heavy ptfe bobbins
Cygnet do some heavy ptfe bobbins
In reply to Post #5
The cygnet ones are tricky to find tbh, although we'll made bobbins
The cygnet ones are tricky to find tbh, although we'll made bobbins
Buy some PTFE Teflon White Round Rod off Ebay, a drill bit to fit the size of isotope your using along with a 2BA or M5 tap depending on what chains you are using, you would need a drill bit to fit the size of tap your using, but buy one a bit bigger for the isotope and that would suffice, and the World is your "Oyster" and you can make a great range of them to suit your requirements.
Its all I have done for years, just make my own indicators.
Its all I have done for years, just make my own indicators.
In reply to Post #7
thanks Zack, slightly beyond my technical skill or inclination I'm afraid!
thanks Zack, slightly beyond my technical skill or inclination I'm afraid!
In reply to Post #1
Custom Tackle do a 50 grm PTFE
Custom Tackle do a 50 grm PTFE
In reply to Post #9
custom will also scale up in weight a bit more to c80 grams.
custom will also scale up in weight a bit more to c80 grams.
In reply to Post #6
the cygnet ones look pretty interesting, but do come with chains and clips which isn't the end of the world. However as mentioned they are a bit thin on the ground, and cygnet don't appear to be easily contacted through traditional means!
the cygnet ones look pretty interesting, but do come with chains and clips which isn't the end of the world. However as mentioned they are a bit thin on the ground, and cygnet don't appear to be easily contacted through traditional means!
In reply to Post #4
You mean a copy of an inferior copy of Keith's original
You mean a copy of an inferior copy of Keith's original
In reply to Post #13
I actually contacted keith first who told me he did not work with PTFE as in his opinion the thread for the chain in PTFE was easily stripped. I chose to look for an alternative producer cant see the problom with that? As the paying customer surely I should get what I want copy or not?
Inferior? I think not.
Michael
I actually contacted keith first who told me he did not work with PTFE as in his opinion the thread for the chain in PTFE was easily stripped. I chose to look for an alternative producer cant see the problom with that? As the paying customer surely I should get what I want copy or not?
Inferior? I think not.
Michael
Gardner do a 2oz stainless bobbin.
In reply to Post #14
The fact Keith declined the work because the material has been made obsolete would suggest they were inferior before they started
Noj
The fact Keith declined the work because the material has been made obsolete would suggest they were inferior before they started
Noj
In reply to Post #16
Your opinion not mine
Michael
Your opinion not mine
Michael
In reply to Post #14
yes, fair to say that Keith isn't a fan of PTFE! As ever he has been a great help in my deliberations though.
yes, fair to say that Keith isn't a fan of PTFE! As ever he has been a great help in my deliberations though.
In reply to Post #14
Ptfe isn't ideal for threads, if tapping it you need to drill undersized. Keith is right the threads can strip easily. I use his mk2 mag heads and they are fantastic. Better than the inferior copies out there.
Ptfe isn't ideal for threads, if tapping it you need to drill undersized. Keith is right the threads can strip easily. I use his mk2 mag heads and they are fantastic. Better than the inferior copies out there.
In reply to Post #17
Your entitled to reject expert opinion in any realm of endeavor. However such people with experience don't tend to hand out bad advice.
Your entitled to reject expert opinion in any realm of endeavor. However such people with experience don't tend to hand out bad advice.
In reply to Post #1
Have you thought about using white delrin instead i think its better than ptfe for bobbins etc
Have you thought about using white delrin instead i think its better than ptfe for bobbins etc
To be honest, thinking about it, why do we use PTFE to make indicators, I have not made any out of that material for years now as I have a preference to polycarbonate tubing or rod and I can add screw on weights if I need them. I have only ever ruined the thread in one PTFE indicator in about 20 years and just repaired it using PTFE tape.
It makes me wonder if PTFE became the "Vogue" after Gardners "Grease Monkeys" in the 80's when the PTFE reduced friction on a teflon coated stainless steel rod to slide up and down, but for any indicator made from PTFE mounted on chains etc, its non important to have the friction free.
It makes me wonder if PTFE became the "Vogue" after Gardners "Grease Monkeys" in the 80's when the PTFE reduced friction on a teflon coated stainless steel rod to slide up and down, but for any indicator made from PTFE mounted on chains etc, its non important to have the friction free.
In reply to Post #22
there is probably some nostalgia on my part for wanting PTFE, but have been informed of the error of my ways by Keith so all sorted now. many thanks for all of your suggestions. much appreciated.
there is probably some nostalgia on my part for wanting PTFE, but have been informed of the error of my ways by Keith so all sorted now. many thanks for all of your suggestions. much appreciated.
In reply to Post #21
Delrin is a good shout, its appearance is similar to PTFE but has better strength. Another option for both would be to use a thread insert such as a helicoil or timesert. Although I am not sure what size they go too.
Delrin is a good shout, its appearance is similar to PTFE but has better strength. Another option for both would be to use a thread insert such as a helicoil or timesert. Although I am not sure what size they go too.
In reply to Post #22
I think your bang on there.
I think your bang on there.
In reply to Post #24
we have metric timeserts down to m4 at work and helicoils to 3mm i know they do ba sizes in helicoils but helicoils are not very good for continual use and are better for single use repair.
I haven't seen or heard of any issues with threads stripping with delrin or acetal when used in bobbins.
we have metric timeserts down to m4 at work and helicoils to 3mm i know they do ba sizes in helicoils but helicoils are not very good for continual use and are better for single use repair.
I haven't seen or heard of any issues with threads stripping with delrin or acetal when used in bobbins.
Custom reel king do white pfte bobbins
When I searched online for the Cygnet ones a few days ago on EBAY, they was all out of stock.
Tonight I went on EBAY to look for something different that I wanted and this flashed up, Cygnet Clinga XXL Kit 75 gr, 10 available:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254215902633?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dfc32e96451944a60b592350a31b0aaf1%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D174705904780%26itm%3D254215902633%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Afd20c73b-fc7c-11eb-8af3-8a865757ac4f%7Cparentrq%3A4167dfc617b0acf382297d74ffd32688%7Ciid%3A1
Tonight I went on EBAY to look for something different that I wanted and this flashed up, Cygnet Clinga XXL Kit 75 gr, 10 available:-
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254215902633?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dfc32e96451944a60b592350a31b0aaf1%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D174705904780%26itm%3D254215902633%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Afd20c73b-fc7c-11eb-8af3-8a865757ac4f%7Cparentrq%3A4167dfc617b0acf382297d74ffd32688%7Ciid%3A1
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