Which is best 
In reply to Post #1
Xtreme big boy , way more powerful, Nash struggles with hills
Xtreme big boy , way more powerful, Nash struggles with hills
In reply to Post #2
Is that fact or just on a video you've seen based on a biased test
Is that fact or just on a video you've seen based on a biased test
In reply to Post #3
Nash is only 150 watts ... imo you are better off with buying a Nash trax evo mk2, buy 2 extra wheels and a diy +250 watt wheel barrow, will save you a lot of money too.
Nash is only 150 watts ... imo you are better off with buying a Nash trax evo mk2, buy 2 extra wheels and a diy +250 watt wheel barrow, will save you a lot of money too.
In reply to Post #1
. . .no experience of the Big Boy but to be honest I never will . . .its ridiculously huge and looks like a tractor . . .I only carry enough gear for 48hrs, not 3 weeks!
Wait for my next Nash Metro Power instalment (when I actually get to go fishing / use it) in the reviews section . . .will be testing it on a hill so you'll know!
. . .no experience of the Big Boy but to be honest I never will . . .its ridiculously huge and looks like a tractor . . .I only carry enough gear for 48hrs, not 3 weeks!
Wait for my next Nash Metro Power instalment (when I actually get to go fishing / use it) in the reviews section . . .will be testing it on a hill so you'll know!
Use the barrow of your choice (Fox seems popular) and put a 350 watt wheel hub on it. Plenty of videos detailing ebike controllers plus you can decide on your battery power size. I've got 2 x 15Ah batteries on charge as I write this. Totalling £380 for the conversion.
I'll have the usual ignition, throttle and battery display plus cruise control, regenerative breaks, reverse and lights (may even put under light neon tubes on it). I may even use the anti-theft alarm and keyed ignition. The Bluetooth remote control and dash board and automated gun turrets seem a little ott.
A few are upgrading their jaggernaughts using alternatives motor arrangements.
I'll have the usual ignition, throttle and battery display plus cruise control, regenerative breaks, reverse and lights (may even put under light neon tubes on it). I may even use the anti-theft alarm and keyed ignition. The Bluetooth remote control and dash board and automated gun turrets seem a little ott.
A few are upgrading their jaggernaughts using alternatives motor arrangements.
In reply to Post #1
I have the Nash power barrow and although not steep hills, it's been brilliant so far.
I was toying between the two earlier in the year and following various feedbacks/comments I got the Nash one rather than waiting on the new Porter. As stated below, it looks MASSIVE! The Nash one packs down really well and the front when isn't any bigger than a normal barrow.
I have the Nash power barrow and although not steep hills, it's been brilliant so far.
I was toying between the two earlier in the year and following various feedbacks/comments I got the Nash one rather than waiting on the new Porter. As stated below, it looks MASSIVE! The Nash one packs down really well and the front when isn't any bigger than a normal barrow.
In reply to Post #1
I've been using the Nash power metro for a few months now, since before Christmas, and it's brilliant, I've not had to take it up any extreme hills, but fairly steep inclined banks, and it handles it with ease, great for loading onto the back of vans too, just drags itself on haha, battery life is unreal too, aside from the initial full charge I still haven't needed to charge it! And I go every weekend, it's actually only just recently gone down to halfway of the battery
I've been using the Nash power metro for a few months now, since before Christmas, and it's brilliant, I've not had to take it up any extreme hills, but fairly steep inclined banks, and it handles it with ease, great for loading onto the back of vans too, just drags itself on haha, battery life is unreal too, aside from the initial full charge I still haven't needed to charge it! And I go every weekend, it's actually only just recently gone down to halfway of the battery
who's going to be the first company to produce a stand on barrow,little step at the back and away ya go
In reply to Post #1
I'm in a privileged position with this question my old man owns the big boy and my brother owns the Nash metro...
If your the type to take everything and the kitchen sink get the big boy, it won't struggle at all with hills even with two people worth of gear on it.
If you want a power barrow with a footprint and pack down size akin to the fox explorer barrow get the Nash metro it can cope with hills just fine with 1 persons worth of gear.
If I was to buy one myself after seeing both I would purchase the Nash metro due to it being just as compact as my fox explorer.
I'm in a privileged position with this question my old man owns the big boy and my brother owns the Nash metro...
If your the type to take everything and the kitchen sink get the big boy, it won't struggle at all with hills even with two people worth of gear on it.
If you want a power barrow with a footprint and pack down size akin to the fox explorer barrow get the Nash metro it can cope with hills just fine with 1 persons worth of gear.
If I was to buy one myself after seeing both I would purchase the Nash metro due to it being just as compact as my fox explorer.
£900 is a ridiculous amount of money for a barrow. £180 for a standard metro barrow, making the power element £720. Why is it that much more?
In reply to Post #11
More like 480, around 300 for a diy kit
More like 480, around 300 for a diy kit
In reply to Post #8
You must be fishing a very small water, not taking hardly anything and not going a lot to have not even charged your battery with power still left in it.
You must be fishing a very small water, not taking hardly anything and not going a lot to have not even charged your battery with power still left in it.
I've got the new Power Porter, the thing is fantastic, literal life saver. I don't get why people keep yabbering on about how big they think they are, they're not that big. The only difference between my old MkII porter and this is the larger wheels, they both pack down to the same size with the handle all bundled together.
I only take what I need; I'm not a bivvy table type of guy. What I do take does weigh a fair bit which I'll easily estimate is over 100kg... bedchair 15kg, bivvy 15kg, water 20kg, rod bag 10kg, big bag 30kg possibly, unhooking mat with gear inside it, 5 to 10kg, bait 5 to 10kg, more if I'm baiting up plus food for either a weekend or a week.
I fish a 100+ acre pit currently, I reckon I could lap it twice. Yeah I'm sure I could lighten the load, but with anything like that there's comprimises, when all I have to do is just buy more batteries if I wanna keep lapping the place. I've fished hardcore before, just a rucksack with my essentials, bivvy bag/sleeping bag/Thermarest, army poncho to keep the rain at bay and a rod bag and living like that on the bank for two weeks at a time, to be perfectly honest, it's s-hit fishing like that, instead, I'm happy with my electric tractor loader up.
A mate of mine bought the Nash barra and sent it back as he takes similar to me and found it wouldn't even move after loading it up, he had the non metro [sexual] one. He bought the same barra as mine and now says he's golden.
I only take what I need; I'm not a bivvy table type of guy. What I do take does weigh a fair bit which I'll easily estimate is over 100kg... bedchair 15kg, bivvy 15kg, water 20kg, rod bag 10kg, big bag 30kg possibly, unhooking mat with gear inside it, 5 to 10kg, bait 5 to 10kg, more if I'm baiting up plus food for either a weekend or a week.
I fish a 100+ acre pit currently, I reckon I could lap it twice. Yeah I'm sure I could lighten the load, but with anything like that there's comprimises, when all I have to do is just buy more batteries if I wanna keep lapping the place. I've fished hardcore before, just a rucksack with my essentials, bivvy bag/sleeping bag/Thermarest, army poncho to keep the rain at bay and a rod bag and living like that on the bank for two weeks at a time, to be perfectly honest, it's s-hit fishing like that, instead, I'm happy with my electric tractor loader up.
A mate of mine bought the Nash barra and sent it back as he takes similar to me and found it wouldn't even move after loading it up, he had the non metro [sexual] one. He bought the same barra as mine and now says he's golden.
In reply to Post #14
If your mate takes the same as you that's why the Nash barrow wouldn't move it's rated to 100kg...
It's not a sh*t barrow it's just not for guys who haul 20L of water around, one huge flaw with the Carp Porter is the frame it's sh*t paper thin aluminium that will bend if your barrow falls over. (Happened to my old man first outing)
I can take all my gear + 10L of water + 10kg of bait and still not reach 100kg no idea why your gear is so heavy did you used to carry 20L of water before you got the power barrow?
If your mate takes the same as you that's why the Nash barrow wouldn't move it's rated to 100kg...
It's not a sh*t barrow it's just not for guys who haul 20L of water around, one huge flaw with the Carp Porter is the frame it's sh*t paper thin aluminium that will bend if your barrow falls over. (Happened to my old man first outing)
I can take all my gear + 10L of water + 10kg of bait and still not reach 100kg no idea why your gear is so heavy did you used to carry 20L of water before you got the power barrow?
In reply to Post #15
I didn't know aluminium rusted like steel colour rust? New one on me.
I've always taken 10lt water; got two dogs. 10lt of water = 20kg. I don't take 20lt on the barra with me.
I've no idea how much kit my mates weighs, all I know is he said the Nash gash couldn't shift it and the Prestige does it easy peasy.
Nash Evo - 4-5 miles dependant on terrain and load 100kg load
Power Porter Extreme Big Boy 2021 - 6-8 miles mixed terrain 100kg load
Question, why would you buy the Nash for £50 less than the Prestige number considering the Prestige goes further, doesn't wheelspin and can climb hills, why would you do that? By the way, the Nash is apparently rated to 110kg.
I didn't know aluminium rusted like steel colour rust? New one on me.
I've always taken 10lt water; got two dogs. 10lt of water = 20kg. I don't take 20lt on the barra with me.
I've no idea how much kit my mates weighs, all I know is he said the Nash gash couldn't shift it and the Prestige does it easy peasy.
Nash Evo - 4-5 miles dependant on terrain and load 100kg load
Power Porter Extreme Big Boy 2021 - 6-8 miles mixed terrain 100kg load
Question, why would you buy the Nash for £50 less than the Prestige number considering the Prestige goes further, doesn't wheelspin and can climb hills, why would you do that? By the way, the Nash is apparently rated to 110kg.
In reply to Post #16
On Earth 1 litre of water weighs 1kg.
On Earth 1 litre of water weighs 1kg.
In reply to Post #17
Thanks for the correction 👍
Thanks for the correction 👍
In reply to Post #16
That barrow looks enormous. If you session last as long as 10l of water takes to drink, between you and 2 dogs, they aren't really going to be long sessions. No way you need that much gear.
Why not just get panniers for the dogs?
That barrow looks enormous. If you session last as long as 10l of water takes to drink, between you and 2 dogs, they aren't really going to be long sessions. No way you need that much gear.
Why not just get panniers for the dogs?
In reply to Post #19
Hang on a minute, who are you to decide what is or what isn't excessive and what someone needs or doesn't need, what are you, the fishing police or something, like seriously? What is it with some people deciding in their heads what other people should or shouldn't do. I'm not you, you know? I'll do as I please. If I want to take two barras with me, I will. If I want to take 10 or 100lt of water with me, I'll do that too.
I don't care what you do, you can take as little or as much as you like for all I care, just don't think you can judge and attempt to decide what others should or should not take, ya feel me?
Hang on a minute, who are you to decide what is or what isn't excessive and what someone needs or doesn't need, what are you, the fishing police or something, like seriously? What is it with some people deciding in their heads what other people should or shouldn't do. I'm not you, you know? I'll do as I please. If I want to take two barras with me, I will. If I want to take 10 or 100lt of water with me, I'll do that too.
I don't care what you do, you can take as little or as much as you like for all I care, just don't think you can judge and attempt to decide what others should or should not take, ya feel me?
In reply to Post #20
Alright precious, keep your knickers on. It was only an observation.
But appreciate your input, the nash barrow is gash cause it doesnt carry half a tackle shop
Alright precious, keep your knickers on. It was only an observation.
But appreciate your input, the nash barrow is gash cause it doesnt carry half a tackle shop
In reply to Post #21
It literally isn't half a tackle shop. My main bag: my tackle box for instance is one of those old Thinking Anglers things that they don't make any more, very small in comparison and not extravagant to what's about. The biggest excess is a 78,000 Ridgemonkey power pack. The rest of my bag is made up of cooking gear, brew kit, binos, DSLR, tripod etc, nothing mental.
A decent bed and bivvy works out a lot in weight. I've fished just under a poncho as I've said previously, even if I wanted to, I couldn't as I've dogs and have to contain them inside a bivvy, one of my dogs will and does escape so I have to use a groundsheet; too many times he's slipped out in the middle of the night with me having to search for him, that's all stopped with a groundsheet.
It literally isn't half a tackle shop. My main bag: my tackle box for instance is one of those old Thinking Anglers things that they don't make any more, very small in comparison and not extravagant to what's about. The biggest excess is a 78,000 Ridgemonkey power pack. The rest of my bag is made up of cooking gear, brew kit, binos, DSLR, tripod etc, nothing mental.
A decent bed and bivvy works out a lot in weight. I've fished just under a poncho as I've said previously, even if I wanted to, I couldn't as I've dogs and have to contain them inside a bivvy, one of my dogs will and does escape so I have to use a groundsheet; too many times he's slipped out in the middle of the night with me having to search for him, that's all stopped with a groundsheet.
In reply to Post #16
The carp Porter is defo not steel and if I'm wrong it the thinnest walled steel (cheapest) they could get their hands on maybe the rust is from the bolts and steel parts like the wheel assembly... ?
10L of water = 10kg... what crazy water are you taking with you
It's rated to 100kg its written on the box it's comes packaged in (metro barrow)
I've already outlined who would choose the Nash over the Carp Porter...
Nash metro = fox explorer type angler who has streamlined their gear
Carp Porter = kitchen sink / crazy physics breaking water hauls
The carp Porter is defo not steel and if I'm wrong it the thinnest walled steel (cheapest) they could get their hands on maybe the rust is from the bolts and steel parts like the wheel assembly... ?
10L of water = 10kg... what crazy water are you taking with you
It's rated to 100kg its written on the box it's comes packaged in (metro barrow)
I've already outlined who would choose the Nash over the Carp Porter...
Nash metro = fox explorer type angler who has streamlined their gear
Carp Porter = kitchen sink / crazy physics breaking water hauls
In reply to Post #23
If you re-read my post, I was referring to the Evo vs The 2021 Porter version and asking the question... why would you buy the Nash number, £50 difference and the Nash just isn't as powerful and can go as far as the Porter, or climb hills. Maybe people fishing canals, brand loyalty?
From what I can make out, the Porters main frame is made of steel, and the handles and folding side wings are ally.
If you re-read my post, I was referring to the Evo vs The 2021 Porter version and asking the question... why would you buy the Nash number, £50 difference and the Nash just isn't as powerful and can go as far as the Porter, or climb hills. Maybe people fishing canals, brand loyalty?
From what I can make out, the Porters main frame is made of steel, and the handles and folding side wings are ally.
Nash trax evo mk2 plus 2 extra wheels and a + 250watt DIY kit ore a Carp porter mk4s evo barrow + a +250w Diy kit,
which would be the best looking at the quality of material?
which would be the best looking at the quality of material?
In reply to Post #24
No brand loyalty here the Carp Porter is more powerful yes but that comes at the cost of it being heavier and no where near as compact and the setup and disassemble is lot longer than the Nash metro.
You already said your friend takes the same as you and your gears weight is more than 100kg, so you saying the Nash metro can't climb hills & is for canals is wrong 😑 when you've only seen it used over the stated capacity.
We fish a lake on are club that is one continuous steep hill about 1.5miles to the lake both barrows performed perfectly with it.
No brand loyalty here the Carp Porter is more powerful yes but that comes at the cost of it being heavier and no where near as compact and the setup and disassemble is lot longer than the Nash metro.
You already said your friend takes the same as you and your gears weight is more than 100kg, so you saying the Nash metro can't climb hills & is for canals is wrong 😑 when you've only seen it used over the stated capacity.
We fish a lake on are club that is one continuous steep hill about 1.5miles to the lake both barrows performed perfectly with it.
In reply to Post #24
You say you have a power porter, but the photo in your post shows a Tri-porter and what looks like a power kit? Theres a bit of a difference size wise between a proper power porter and a tri-porter with a power kit.
You say you have a power porter, but the photo in your post shows a Tri-porter and what looks like a power kit? Theres a bit of a difference size wise between a proper power porter and a tri-porter with a power kit.
In reply to Post #27
My mate has a power Porter and I reckon you could use it as a scaffolding truck, it's huge!
My mate has a power Porter and I reckon you could use it as a scaffolding truck, it's huge!
In reply to Post #26
I said similar, not the same as me. I've no idea weight wise other than guessing his stuff weighs less, could be wrong, might even take more, all the same, the Nash jobby failed, so he got one that could.
I said similar, not the same as me. I've no idea weight wise other than guessing his stuff weighs less, could be wrong, might even take more, all the same, the Nash jobby failed, so he got one that could.
In reply to Post #27
Yeah, it's the 1k one which I bought from Johnson Ross not a power kit. Can't remember if that foam bit came with it or was part of the handle upgrade for my old unpowered one which I put on the new one. My old one was a bulk standard MKII just with an upgraded handle and back wheels. The powered wheel won't fit on those types.
Yeah, it's the 1k one which I bought from Johnson Ross not a power kit. Can't remember if that foam bit came with it or was part of the handle upgrade for my old unpowered one which I put on the new one. My old one was a bulk standard MKII just with an upgraded handle and back wheels. The powered wheel won't fit on those types.
In reply to Post #30
In reply to Post #29
No mate... your mate failed to read the instruction manual and you came on a forum to slate a product your mate misused therefore your opinion means jack about the product.
No mate... your mate failed to read the instruction manual and you came on a forum to slate a product your mate misused therefore your opinion means jack about the product.
In reply to Post #32
Kool beans, you keep running with that 👍
Kool beans, you keep running with that 👍
In reply to Post #33
Okily dokily
Okily dokily
In reply to Post #34
. . .as a Gash Metro owner I'm inclined to agree with gazzua - there does seem to be an 'instant' anti Nash sentiment based on heresy / biased noddy youtube vids and not real world experience . .
I've been a Prestige user since year dot and normally wouldn't go near Nash for barrows . . .however as stated for 'normal' short to medium session anglers who favour compact kit, other than self builds (and if you can stomach the price point) the Metro is the only off the shelf, small(ish) footprint powered barrow out there.
When I eventually get to use it in anger (still cant get on the lake with work commitments) I'll feedback! Until then stop bickering like girls . . .
. . .as a Gash Metro owner I'm inclined to agree with gazzua - there does seem to be an 'instant' anti Nash sentiment based on heresy / biased noddy youtube vids and not real world experience . .
I've been a Prestige user since year dot and normally wouldn't go near Nash for barrows . . .however as stated for 'normal' short to medium session anglers who favour compact kit, other than self builds (and if you can stomach the price point) the Metro is the only off the shelf, small(ish) footprint powered barrow out there.
When I eventually get to use it in anger (still cant get on the lake with work commitments) I'll feedback! Until then stop bickering like girls . . .
I bought the triporter big boy barrow (non powered) when it first came out. Kept it for a year or so and decided its just too big ... Its a crazy size for a bit of fishing and just shows the ridiculous amount of stuff
In reply to Post #13
I go every week, it's loaded with what I need and more, I don't use the power facility every second it's in motion, just when I want to, the lake I'm on at the moment isn't huge, not miles from the car park either, I'd say all in all it is still very impressive battery life
I go every week, it's loaded with what I need and more, I don't use the power facility every second it's in motion, just when I want to, the lake I'm on at the moment isn't huge, not miles from the car park either, I'd say all in all it is still very impressive battery life
In reply to Post #1
I have the triporter extreme 24v for me I load in a van complete and having powered reverse on it is a god send for getting out of van.
I have the triporter extreme 24v for me I load in a van complete and having powered reverse on it is a god send for getting out of van.
In reply to Post #16
NO 1 litre of water is a kilo. ITS easy to research these things.
NO 1 litre of water is a kilo. ITS easy to research these things.
Anyway I'm busy at present with catch up teaching, upgrading my Hi-Fi... modding a power amp, sorting out a crap plumbing job, modding my barrow and down time. Once I've done my barrow I'd happily share my docs (excel, word and pics) probably be around September.
I get why some would want to get off the shelf kit, I also know that a far better job can be done.
Functions I plan on having
throttle
Battery indicator
Ignition (can be keyed)
Regenerative breaking (ie there is a force acting against it rolling forward due to back EMF so not just removal of power).
Cruise control (essential imo when hitting rough ground as if your kit bounces your response could lead to oscillation and create a bouncing fed back loop )
And of course a light system just in case.
I get why some would want to get off the shelf kit, I also know that a far better job can be done.
Functions I plan on having
throttle
Battery indicator
Ignition (can be keyed)
Regenerative breaking (ie there is a force acting against it rolling forward due to back EMF so not just removal of power).
Cruise control (essential imo when hitting rough ground as if your kit bounces your response could lead to oscillation and create a bouncing fed back loop )
And of course a light system just in case.
In reply to Post #40
. . are you building a golf cart . .?
. . are you building a golf cart . .?
In reply to Post #41
Part 2 of my Nash Trax Metro Power in the reviews section . . . .make your own minds up mofos!
Part 2 of my Nash Trax Metro Power in the reviews section . . . .make your own minds up mofos!
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