What are peoples thought's on this ingredient within a bait? I was always under the impression that beef liver powder was the best available, however it seems that poultry/ chicken liver is a lot more common. The liver powder that BAF currently sell is chicken. AA Baits offer a hydrolysed liver powder which looks interesting
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I've just got some of the AA Baits hydro liver powder but haven't opened it yet (finishing off another pack first). I'm pretty sure it is poultry liver powder tho?
I've just got some of the AA Baits hydro liver powder but haven't opened it yet (finishing off another pack first). I'm pretty sure it is poultry liver powder tho?
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Beef liver is the one you want
Beef liver is the one you want
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They should be paying you to take away poultry liver.
Waste by product.
They should be paying you to take away poultry liver.
Waste by product.
My advice is to read the data sheet and see if you think it might be of use in your bait. I have used dessicated and hydrolysed liver a lot. I had no idea what type when I started but suspect it was poultry just as the stuff avaible now is. What I do know is that it made a difference to the amount of fish I caught, even more so if combined with a similar quantity of Yeast.
Only thing I would say is I found I needed at least 5% in the bait to achieve any improvement.
Only thing I would say is I found I needed at least 5% in the bait to achieve any improvement.
Liver and yeast are often recommended in combination. What is it about the synergy of these two?
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Vitamins, minerals, salts, a very good combination
Vitamins, minerals, salts, a very good combination
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Add some fenugreek as well. It'll lift it to higher levels
Add some fenugreek as well. It'll lift it to higher levels
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I have seen yeast mentioned before in baits?
Why would it be included in a bait??
I have seen yeast mentioned before in baits?
Why would it be included in a bait??
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Beef liver, yeast, fenugreek.
Basis of Rods original Liver Mix.
Excellent combo.
Beef liver, yeast, fenugreek.
Basis of Rods original Liver Mix.
Excellent combo.
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Yeast gives you a reasonable protein content, aabout 40%, lots of B vitamins, high glutamate content and a very good source of nucleotides. Not many ingredients have such a variety of constituents within there make up.
Yeast gives you a reasonable protein content, aabout 40%, lots of B vitamins, high glutamate content and a very good source of nucleotides. Not many ingredients have such a variety of constituents within there make up.
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Loved the old liver mix.....super fish/liver was my fav bait for several years.
Loved the old liver mix.....super fish/liver was my fav bait for several years.
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Mine too, I would add GLM, and a good hit of MAC ALA SALAR.
Mine too, I would add GLM, and a good hit of MAC ALA SALAR.
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Monster crab and Nodd Oil for me.
I would put that bait above nearly any that are out there now.
Monster crab and Nodd Oil for me.
I would put that bait above nearly any that are out there now.
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Yes, all really good options. Not dissimilar from a version I used back then, Liver Mix/Premier Marine Mix 50/50, with Compound TF, GLM and Scottish McSalmon Oil.
Several years later (about 2003 I think), I bought a 10kg bucket of Liver Mix and it had changed out of all recognition, and was a pale imitation of the brilliant 90's one.
A friend did really well on the original, battered Spinnaker, with 2oz of Robin Red per pound, and cinnamon EO. Reckoned it was one of the best baits ever.
Yes, all really good options. Not dissimilar from a version I used back then, Liver Mix/Premier Marine Mix 50/50, with Compound TF, GLM and Scottish McSalmon Oil.
Several years later (about 2003 I think), I bought a 10kg bucket of Liver Mix and it had changed out of all recognition, and was a pale imitation of the brilliant 90's one.
A friend did really well on the original, battered Spinnaker, with 2oz of Robin Red per pound, and cinnamon EO. Reckoned it was one of the best baits ever.
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I've been looking for some good beef liver powder - bulk have some beef powder but not sure if its liver. I'm trying to avoid Argentinian beef ideally too.
I've been looking for some good beef liver powder - bulk have some beef powder but not sure if its liver. I'm trying to avoid Argentinian beef ideally too.
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Trent baits do beef liver powder that will be good quality and I've come across boiliehub who say theirs is hydrolysed beef liver powder. Never used them before so can't comment on the quality.
Trent baits do beef liver powder that will be good quality and I've come across boiliehub who say theirs is hydrolysed beef liver powder. Never used them before so can't comment on the quality.
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The 'Now' stuff is probably the easiest to obtain... But it is Argentinian, so that might rule it out.
The Bulk Powders product is not liver BTW, it's beef protein.
Edit: I've just looked at boilie hub. That seems very cheap for a hydrolysed beef liver powder, and says it's not for human consumption. The picture also does not look like a hydrolysed liver at all. I'm a little sceptical.
The 'Now' stuff is probably the easiest to obtain... But it is Argentinian, so that might rule it out.
The Bulk Powders product is not liver BTW, it's beef protein.
Edit: I've just looked at boilie hub. That seems very cheap for a hydrolysed beef liver powder, and says it's not for human consumption. The picture also does not look like a hydrolysed liver at all. I'm a little sceptical.
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Thanks mate will check it out. I got some AA Baits hydrolysed liver powder but I doubt it is beef.
Thanks mate will check it out. I got some AA Baits hydrolysed liver powder but I doubt it is beef.
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Liver powder has a high protein content nearly 60%. That's one of the reasons
Liver powder has a high protein content nearly 60%. That's one of the reasons
I haven't used liver powder since the 90's but I remember that at high levels, with yeast and Robin Red it was very effective.
I haven't written down any of my old recipes.
Can anyone recommend a proven recipe with high levels of liver, yeast etc. I will only be making small quantities so can afford to use high percentages of good ingredients
I haven't written down any of my old recipes.
Can anyone recommend a proven recipe with high levels of liver, yeast etc. I will only be making small quantities so can afford to use high percentages of good ingredients
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Besides the taste of the ingredient, at decent levels, it is very recognizable.
Also the content of B Vitamins that I also think is it's biggest plus point.
Combined with some yeast and kelp you have a very good content of B vitamins.
Besides the taste of the ingredient, at decent levels, it is very recognizable.
Also the content of B Vitamins that I also think is it's biggest plus point.
Combined with some yeast and kelp you have a very good content of B vitamins.
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Sounds like Enervite why not recreate that but with modern ingredients?
Sounds like Enervite why not recreate that but with modern ingredients?
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