Hi - I'm looking for a straight comparison between the two sets of rods, from someone who has or who has had a seyt of both, I've got the 3¾ Infinity DF X45's and love them, great casting and playing rods - and I'll be honest, until i picked one up and had a play around with it, thought that they'd be rubbish - however after using them for over a year, I'm hooked on them, which has got me thinking - how much better the Basia rods could actually be - I've read the blurb about them, but could do with knowing from someone who has had both sets that can give an honest opinion...
I'm not looking to start a Danny Fairbrass slagging competition or start a row about how expensive the Basia rods or how you can cast further on your 10 year old Fox Warrior rods - just out of interest, are the Basia's THAT different???
Thanks in advance...
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I'm not looking to start a Danny Fairbrass slagging competition or start a row about how expensive the Basia rods or how you can cast further on your 10 year old Fox Warrior rods - just out of interest, are the Basia's THAT different???
Thanks in advance...
PM's welcome also
In reply to Post #1
I've got the same infinities as u and love them as well. Wish u hadn't put that thought in my head
I've got the same infinities as u and love them as well. Wish u hadn't put that thought in my head
In reply to Post #1
Not sure how many answers you will get, I think most people would get customs built if spending that kind of money
Not sure how many answers you will get, I think most people would get customs built if spending that kind of money
In reply to Post #3
I've had quite a few sets of customs, but to be fair, if I had the option to have them custom built, the only things I'd change would be to have a matt finish to the blank and and abbreviated handle.. but I've got used to the Infinty's now so am relaxed about it..
I've had quite a few sets of customs, but to be fair, if I had the option to have them custom built, the only things I'd change would be to have a matt finish to the blank and and abbreviated handle.. but I've got used to the Infinty's now so am relaxed about it..
Never used the carp rods but had the infinity barbel rods and now the basia x45 barbel rods both in 2.25lb and the basias feel lighter and more responsive and has a much quicker recovery, they are a superb blank and much nicer than the torrix and hi s barbel rods i have owned which felt a bit dead in comparison. I would imagine the blanks are the same as the carp rods only in a lighter test curve.
In reply to Post #3
Have you ever used an Infinity blank? They are pretty awesome and better than a lot of the stuff people are getting customs made on. If these blanks were more available to build then they would be far more common place.
Have you ever used an Infinity blank? They are pretty awesome and better than a lot of the stuff people are getting customs made on. If these blanks were more available to build then they would be far more common place.
In reply to Post #6
I really wanted a set of infinity's, but the build quality wasnt all that when i looked at them. Would definitely have been my first choice if i could have had them custom made
I really wanted a set of infinity's, but the build quality wasnt all that when i looked at them. Would definitely have been my first choice if i could have had them custom made
In reply to Post #6
Exactly this
Exactly this
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Whilst I can't comment from my own experience, I have 2 good friends who have used pretty much the entire daiwa rod range. Both of them prefer the infinity to the basia. As do a lot of the korda lads.
Whilst I can't comment from my own experience, I have 2 good friends who have used pretty much the entire daiwa rod range. Both of them prefer the infinity to the basia. As do a lot of the korda lads.
In reply to Post #6
Not for many years no, not likely to Tbh. No need to look past the Harrison range imo. My current set are built exactly how I want them for £100 per rod less than the daiwa off the shelf models hence my comment.
Not for many years no, not likely to Tbh. No need to look past the Harrison range imo. My current set are built exactly how I want them for £100 per rod less than the daiwa off the shelf models hence my comment.
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I have 2 sets of infinities. One set built by Tackle Fanatics with full cork and minima rings. The other older set built by Bankside with full duplon and sic rings. Both sets are still excellent after several years use. A friend has basias and one rod has softened considerably. I dont think there is much difference in performance between the 2. Basia may be slightly slimmer ?
I have 2 sets of infinities. One set built by Tackle Fanatics with full cork and minima rings. The other older set built by Bankside with full duplon and sic rings. Both sets are still excellent after several years use. A friend has basias and one rod has softened considerably. I dont think there is much difference in performance between the 2. Basia may be slightly slimmer ?
In reply to Post #11
Johnson Ross used to offer infinity custom builds as well. I've owned free spirit, Century, sportex, northwestern and Harrison including torrix and aviator. Own original infinity xld, infinity df and basia df and the infinity df x45 in 13ft 3.75tc or the 4.25tc and still my favourite distance rods.
Johnson Ross used to offer infinity custom builds as well. I've owned free spirit, Century, sportex, northwestern and Harrison including torrix and aviator. Own original infinity xld, infinity df and basia df and the infinity df x45 in 13ft 3.75tc or the 4.25tc and still my favourite distance rods.
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A friend of mine used to work for Korda and he said that they got a big enough discount on Daiwa Tackle that they could resell it a couple of years later for the sa,e price they paid - I.e. it was essentially free (if you had cash in the bank).
He said that with money no object, the people buying tackle pretty much all upgraded from DF Infinities to X45, but did not buy Basia rods. They also bought Longbow spod Rods not Infinity spod rods as they preferred them.
For me that answered the question!
A friend of mine used to work for Korda and he said that they got a big enough discount on Daiwa Tackle that they could resell it a couple of years later for the sa,e price they paid - I.e. it was essentially free (if you had cash in the bank).
He said that with money no object, the people buying tackle pretty much all upgraded from DF Infinities to X45, but did not buy Basia rods. They also bought Longbow spod Rods not Infinity spod rods as they preferred them.
For me that answered the question!
In reply to Post #13
Exactly the same as my mate said who was in the same position working for korda. To the letter.
Exactly the same as my mate said who was in the same position working for korda. To the letter.
In reply to Post #13
Because daiwa never offered them the discount on the basia rods, personally I would love to see a 13ft infinity x45 in 3.75tc with the grey finish and subtle screen print of the basia and k series titanium guides in 40mm advanced pattern.
Because daiwa never offered them the discount on the basia rods, personally I would love to see a 13ft infinity x45 in 3.75tc with the grey finish and subtle screen print of the basia and k series titanium guides in 40mm advanced pattern.
Slight change of subject: how do the infinity's compare to Century C2 Masters?
I'm looking to invest soon but keep toying between these two, C2 & Infinity's, but with the stores currently closed and no shows I'm unable to see them in person
I'm looking to invest soon but keep toying between these two, C2 & Infinity's, but with the stores currently closed and no shows I'm unable to see them in person
In reply to Post #16
The c2s are an all round rod, prob best there is or close, costs around 500 and the infinity are a fast taper casting rod mate. Costs a lot less
Iv owned infinities and they're great rods, if U like stiff rods, but way over priced imo, big mark Up, poor fittings, get more with other brands.
Alternatives to a infinity 3.75 would be the new - C2 SP, treb light, etc
Alternatives to the C2 master would be - hi s, aviator/torrix etc
The c2s are an all round rod, prob best there is or close, costs around 500 and the infinity are a fast taper casting rod mate. Costs a lot less
Iv owned infinities and they're great rods, if U like stiff rods, but way over priced imo, big mark Up, poor fittings, get more with other brands.
Alternatives to a infinity 3.75 would be the new - C2 SP, treb light, etc
Alternatives to the C2 master would be - hi s, aviator/torrix etc
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Hi mate have been using the 12 ft infinity x rods for the last 22 years time for an upgrade. What I loved about the infinity x was how light they felt and having repeated casts was a breeze. Supposed to be a fast tapered broom handle in there day at 2.75lb test curve, but now look at the test curves available. Anyway question is how do the newer x45 infinity's and basia's compare to the old infinity x for lightness and casting potential.
I am looking to replace the old infinity x with a casting rod but also one that is not impossible to compress properly.
Can't make my mind up between the basia and the infinity x45 in 3,75 test curve, and have convinced myself a stiffer rod would be better in 13ft any advice you can give cheers
Hi mate have been using the 12 ft infinity x rods for the last 22 years time for an upgrade. What I loved about the infinity x was how light they felt and having repeated casts was a breeze. Supposed to be a fast tapered broom handle in there day at 2.75lb test curve, but now look at the test curves available. Anyway question is how do the newer x45 infinity's and basia's compare to the old infinity x for lightness and casting potential.
I am looking to replace the old infinity x with a casting rod but also one that is not impossible to compress properly.
Can't make my mind up between the basia and the infinity x45 in 3,75 test curve, and have convinced myself a stiffer rod would be better in 13ft any advice you can give cheers
In reply to Post #17
Hi mate are you saying the infinity's compare to the treb lights money wise or the stiffness and casting potential.
I would have guessed the trebs would be a stiffer blank and harder to compress. Although I think they are a fantastic looking rod
Hi mate are you saying the infinity's compare to the treb lights money wise or the stiffness and casting potential.
I would have guessed the trebs would be a stiffer blank and harder to compress. Although I think they are a fantastic looking rod
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I've got the 12' infinity x45 in 33/4, IMHO, they are the best rods that I have handled, very light, responsive and are a dream to play fish on, I had the treb lights and in comparison they are broomsticks, I've got a set of the 13's for distance fishing but because of lockdown, haven't used them as yet, I've had them on a field and they feel just as responsive as the 12's, once I've had proper use with them i'll Come back and let you know..
I've got the 12' infinity x45 in 33/4, IMHO, they are the best rods that I have handled, very light, responsive and are a dream to play fish on, I had the treb lights and in comparison they are broomsticks, I've got a set of the 13's for distance fishing but because of lockdown, haven't used them as yet, I've had them on a field and they feel just as responsive as the 12's, once I've had proper use with them i'll Come back and let you know..
In reply to Post #20
Theres no way a 3.75 infinity is a dream to play fish on. I watched danny fairbrass land a 50lb carp in one of the thinking tackle episodes and only the top 12” of the rod were bent, thats definitely not a rod thats even remotely nice to play fish on.
Theres no way a 3.75 infinity is a dream to play fish on. I watched danny fairbrass land a 50lb carp in one of the thinking tackle episodes and only the top 12” of the rod were bent, thats definitely not a rod thats even remotely nice to play fish on.
In reply to Post #21
I thought that, i haven't used them for fishing but have had a cast with one.
I had the original infinities in 2 3/4 which i thought were quite good for playing fish on and then had the original 3.5's i didn't particularly like them for playing fish on a bit to tippy for me
I thought that, i haven't used them for fishing but have had a cast with one.
I had the original infinities in 2 3/4 which i thought were quite good for playing fish on and then had the original 3.5's i didn't particularly like them for playing fish on a bit to tippy for me
In reply to Post #18
If going for the 3.75tc I would definitely go 13ft,as I've said infinity is still one of favourite rods for fishing at range. The choice between these and basia rods is purely personal taste as I don't think there is much if any difference in performance but I do like the grey finish and subtle screen print finish of the basia but there used to be a big difference in price and again personally I don't think it was justified. If I were fishing a large venue and often casting over a hundred yards I would go 13ft 3.75tc infinity x45 with lite weight reels like basia, ci4 1400 ultegra, tech mags or power aero for a lite weight balanced settup. The only other rod I would consider is the 13ft treb lite but this is a heavier blank and most stock it with kigan 50mm ringing and I would prefer to go custom build with k series titanium guides in 40mm advanced pattern but this works out expensive and would be a gamble as I've never tried this configuration so would probably stick to the infinity unless money was no object as I know that combo works for me.
If going for the 3.75tc I would definitely go 13ft,as I've said infinity is still one of favourite rods for fishing at range. The choice between these and basia rods is purely personal taste as I don't think there is much if any difference in performance but I do like the grey finish and subtle screen print finish of the basia but there used to be a big difference in price and again personally I don't think it was justified. If I were fishing a large venue and often casting over a hundred yards I would go 13ft 3.75tc infinity x45 with lite weight reels like basia, ci4 1400 ultegra, tech mags or power aero for a lite weight balanced settup. The only other rod I would consider is the 13ft treb lite but this is a heavier blank and most stock it with kigan 50mm ringing and I would prefer to go custom build with k series titanium guides in 40mm advanced pattern but this works out expensive and would be a gamble as I've never tried this configuration so would probably stick to the infinity unless money was no object as I know that combo works for me.
In reply to Post #21
I've not had a problem with them at all, you know that the tip does the work - just let it do it and if you need some ooomph to stop a fish getting into a snag or heading off down a channel then there's more than enough power to stop them... I'm 6' tall and the rod fits perfectly into my armpit and casts further than I've ever been able to cast previously, that is more than enough for me but opinions on rods and reels are like ********s really, everyone's got one...
I've not had a problem with them at all, you know that the tip does the work - just let it do it and if you need some ooomph to stop a fish getting into a snag or heading off down a channel then there's more than enough power to stop them... I'm 6' tall and the rod fits perfectly into my armpit and casts further than I've ever been able to cast previously, that is more than enough for me but opinions on rods and reels are like ********s really, everyone's got one...
The daiwa infinity blank is very light, because it's design is a thin walled rod, this makes it slightly thicker in the hand (for strength needed) then others but obv way lighter then similar rods.
In reply to Post #19
Hello bud it's closer to the action then the other. The 3,75 infinity is stiff rod sim casting action and same tc as the treb light.
The infinities are poor nowadays imo. Older design and huge mark up. I would honestly look at Harrison's or if money allows century, free spirit all 3 would be way better rods then the basias - 500 plus a rod with steel rings is a joke mate.
Also if I shop about you can get some custom
Made for less then RRP or with better fitting same cash- having them fit your arms is worldly and will really help you get the most outta of it
Hello bud it's closer to the action then the other. The 3,75 infinity is stiff rod sim casting action and same tc as the treb light.
The infinities are poor nowadays imo. Older design and huge mark up. I would honestly look at Harrison's or if money allows century, free spirit all 3 would be way better rods then the basias - 500 plus a rod with steel rings is a joke mate.
Also if I shop about you can get some custom
Made for less then RRP or with better fitting same cash- having them fit your arms is worldly and will really help you get the most outta of it
In reply to Post #23
💯 any casting fast taper rod is way better in 13 ft
Look at the 12ftmcentury's, 12 ft his I've etc not gd all rmd blanks
The 12ft 3.75 infinity is poker
💯 any casting fast taper rod is way better in 13 ft
Look at the 12ftmcentury's, 12 ft his I've etc not gd all rmd blanks
The 12ft 3.75 infinity is poker
What you guys gotta remember is if your level line casting no leader can you get the power outta the butt with normal line? If you buy a 3.75 rod and need a 4/4.5 to compress it you need lines of .36 plus or more which is going to cut u down
Cast further with a aviator or whatever, 3/3.5 ounce and lighter line straight through.
Cast further with a aviator or whatever, 3/3.5 ounce and lighter line straight through.
In reply to Post #28
I have got a set of 3.25 Basia rods and I love them, I had so me Longbows before and I thought they where superb and still do, these 3.25 are fishing rods, cast great, accurate and superb playing fish on, for me they tick all the boxes I want out of a rod
I have got a set of 3.25 Basia rods and I love them, I had so me Longbows before and I thought they where superb and still do, these 3.25 are fishing rods, cast great, accurate and superb playing fish on, for me they tick all the boxes I want out of a rod
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I have had both infinities and now the basia rods. The change for me was purely cosmetic as wanted cork handles and basia rods sounded nice with my basiairs. Both sets were 3.25tc
For me not much in it, basia rods little bit lighter nothing worth noting feels slightly softer on the tip playing fish but that could just be my imagination. Either way excellent rod and ticks all the boxes for me (as did the infinities).
One thing I can say is I have had a top section snap on me on 1 x basia rod which never happened to any other daiwa rod I have owned. Wasn't even under much force chucking it 130y clean snap with no damage to the section prior casting the eye could see. Cost me £220 for new top section
Apart from that love them and don't see any reason to change them for anything else on the market.
I have had both infinities and now the basia rods. The change for me was purely cosmetic as wanted cork handles and basia rods sounded nice with my basiairs. Both sets were 3.25tc
For me not much in it, basia rods little bit lighter nothing worth noting feels slightly softer on the tip playing fish but that could just be my imagination. Either way excellent rod and ticks all the boxes for me (as did the infinities).
One thing I can say is I have had a top section snap on me on 1 x basia rod which never happened to any other daiwa rod I have owned. Wasn't even under much force chucking it 130y clean snap with no damage to the section prior casting the eye could see. Cost me £220 for new top section
Apart from that love them and don't see any reason to change them for anything else on the market.
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