If anybody wants a laugh....have a look of the price of these bivvies Trakker are now releasing! £1200 for a 1 man and £1400 for a 1.5man! Don't forget to buy your accessories on top! 
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Absolute crazy prices for a glorified tent
Absolute crazy prices for a glorified tent
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I seen it advertised yesterday saying grab a bargain £1400 I'm still looking for it lol apparently it's a limited addition as well
I seen it advertised yesterday saying grab a bargain £1400 I'm still looking for it lol apparently it's a limited addition as well
Yeah, yeah, you lot might scoff but it's got *Adaptive Ventilation® Technology*
"Brawndo, it's got electrolytes, it's what plants crave".
"Brawndo, it's got electrolytes, it's what plants crave".
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Yeah limited edition....how many they got? 1?
Yeah limited edition....how many they got? 1?
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They will sell them some people gotta have the next new thing and if people ain't going on holiday or anything else they have spare cash kicking around they won't b able help them selves
They will sell them some people gotta have the next new thing and if people ain't going on holiday or anything else they have spare cash kicking around they won't b able help them selves
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They will have better re-sale values too.
They will have better re-sale values too.
They'll sell I bet.
They've gone for the premium end of the market, which by its nature will always be out of reach and therefore seem outrageous to the mass market. There are people who go fishing who have a lot of money and £1500 to them is pocket change, I very much doubt that these products were released without research to see if there was a market.
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Which shops are selling them?
Which shops are selling them?
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Farlows of Pall Mall, ask for Gregor
Farlows of Pall Mall, ask for Gregor
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It comes with the wrap and magnet mozzie window,makes it an absolute bargain.Im thinking of getting one of each
It comes with the wrap and magnet mozzie window,makes it an absolute bargain.Im thinking of getting one of each
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Me too, although my current bivvy has adaptive ventilation as I can open and close the vents these will be better for the dog to live in and cook in the other while I sleep in the new super duper pioneer when it comes out.
Me too, although my current bivvy has adaptive ventilation as I can open and close the vents these will be better for the dog to live in and cook in the other while I sleep in the new super duper pioneer when it comes out.
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It could be, or they might be seeing how far they can push things price wise to see what the market will accept. Something else worth considering is that just like any really expensive thing, say an Apple computer for example, these things are seen as aspirational to some, and even skint people will pony up to have the latest must have.
Personally, I'd expect it to come with someone on hand 24/7 to put it up and take it down for me for that kinda lolly with the occasional nosh thrown in for good measure.
It could be, or they might be seeing how far they can push things price wise to see what the market will accept. Something else worth considering is that just like any really expensive thing, say an Apple computer for example, these things are seen as aspirational to some, and even skint people will pony up to have the latest must have.
Personally, I'd expect it to come with someone on hand 24/7 to put it up and take it down for me for that kinda lolly with the occasional nosh thrown in for good measure.
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No need for someone to take it down it will probably do that all by its self after it has been used a few times.
No need for someone to take it down it will probably do that all by its self after it has been used a few times.
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I'm certain that they could go a lot higher, £2/3/4K just isn't a lot of money for some people. As the hobby expands more of these people take it up and there becomes a market for exclusive and expensive equipment. It doesn't matter if it's any better or worse than the cheaper stuff, people will buy it if they can afford to.
I'm certain that they could go a lot higher, £2/3/4K just isn't a lot of money for some people. As the hobby expands more of these people take it up and there becomes a market for exclusive and expensive equipment. It doesn't matter if it's any better or worse than the cheaper stuff, people will buy it if they can afford to.
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A sprinkle of sarcasm I detect?
A sprinkle of sarcasm I detect?
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No, you're absolutely right. There will always be those types about for sure
No, you're absolutely right. There will always be those types about for sure
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Pioneer is out soon in this new ev aquatexx
Pioneer is out soon in this new ev aquatexx
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Maybe a manufacturer could offer a bespoke service allowing customers to design their own or modify existing designs to their requirements.
Maybe a manufacturer could offer a bespoke service allowing customers to design their own or modify existing designs to their requirements.
Purchased one another for a spare 
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Pauper. I've pre ordered 3, one for me, one for my dogs and the other for my Carp Porter...
Pauper. I've pre ordered 3, one for me, one for my dogs and the other for my Carp Porter...
I suspect Trakker are just chancing their arm one final time. They were stupid to allow their tie in with Korda to end. What's the phrase about keeping your friends close but your enemies closer? Whilst they had close links to Korda to some extent they were protected from the juggernaut. But now they are very firmly in their headlights. It's started with Korda eating into their luggage market share. Pretty soon round two will appear, unhooking mats, slings etc. Once Korda release their bivvy, Trakker/Aqua are ****ed. Ridgemonkey have been very clever in marketing their shelters at long stay euro anglers and not getting into a scrap with the over nighter/tempest market share.
My guess is you won't see Aqua as a brand within two years and unless Trakker have a serious rethink they won't be fair behind them. Korda is a monster with big feet and they are slowly going to tread on a lot of the competition. Diawa, mainline and Delkim are probably safe. Everyone else is in their sights I reckon. Beds, bivvys, sleeping bags, luggage, barrows, landing nets, bivvys etc etc.
Just like nash, Korda is gonna be a one stop shop.
My guess is you won't see Aqua as a brand within two years and unless Trakker have a serious rethink they won't be fair behind them. Korda is a monster with big feet and they are slowly going to tread on a lot of the competition. Diawa, mainline and Delkim are probably safe. Everyone else is in their sights I reckon. Beds, bivvys, sleeping bags, luggage, barrows, landing nets, bivvys etc etc.
Just like nash, Korda is gonna be a one stop shop.
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Do you think Korda will do a bivvy,I asked the question and they said there is no plan to make one 🤔
Do you think Korda will do a bivvy,I asked the question and they said there is no plan to make one 🤔
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Yep. I have no doubt.
I read the strategic reports section of their company accounts each year, including the bit about research and development. The latest 2019 filing details their intention to move into other product lines, particularly electronic and the associated issues with water ingress and circuit boards. So basically digital scales and probably alarms.
Yep. I have no doubt.
I read the strategic reports section of their company accounts each year, including the bit about research and development. The latest 2019 filing details their intention to move into other product lines, particularly electronic and the associated issues with water ingress and circuit boards. So basically digital scales and probably alarms.
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I can't see them leaving Daiwa and Delkim,Korda get alot of money to promote their gear.
I can't see them leaving Daiwa and Delkim,Korda get alot of money to promote their gear.
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Anyone remember the limited edition black one they brought out?
Anyone seen one lately?
You may as well give me the £1500 quid, i'll do more with it than Trakker will. Judging by the quality of their bedchairs lately, they will fade into insignificance within the next ten years unless they either A) go back to producing quality union jack products again (people will buy it) or they come up with some innovative ideas and sort out their non existant marketing. Unless you have a huge interactive instagram and youtube presence, you will struggle.
Sadly, the same goes with Aqua. There is a reason why people are buying the old Manifold gear for loads more than it's mark up price...
Anyone remember the limited edition black one they brought out?
Anyone seen one lately?
You may as well give me the £1500 quid, i'll do more with it than Trakker will. Judging by the quality of their bedchairs lately, they will fade into insignificance within the next ten years unless they either A) go back to producing quality union jack products again (people will buy it) or they come up with some innovative ideas and sort out their non existant marketing. Unless you have a huge interactive instagram and youtube presence, you will struggle.
Sadly, the same goes with Aqua. There is a reason why people are buying the old Manifold gear for loads more than it's mark up price...
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Korda bivvies sold with 8 pegs when they need 10?
Korda bivvies sold with 8 pegs when they need 10?
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Ridgemonkey may have been clever about their marketing, but they are marketing it to bods on insta who go to Elphicks for the weekend. They need to crack the European market which I believe is under the grips of Nash and Fox.
As for Korda breaking into the luggage market, I've heard a few whispers of discontent about fitting big pit reels into the rod holdalls. That's neither here nor there, but Korda 'innovations' will probably have to pull out some special items with actual innovation rather than try to muscle in on an already massive luggage market. We have the luxury of forums now, so it won't take much for them to be outed if they bring out a rod bag which is no better than a Saber but is being touted for double the price. It'll be like Merecedes trying to bring out their own range of tyres (to be a "one stop shop" as you say) when you know full well they'll never compete with establish brands like Michelin, Pirelli etc.
As for who is safe, Daiwa is a global brand. They could stop selling luggage, bedchairs, bankware and just knock out some new rods and reels and they'll still be fine. Delkims will be safe as long as Prologic/Sonik keep knocking out cheap sets of 3 + receiver that break after twelve months. Nothing will come close to Delkim/Fox/Nev/Gardner for alarms.
Of course, this is all my speculation.
Ridgemonkey may have been clever about their marketing, but they are marketing it to bods on insta who go to Elphicks for the weekend. They need to crack the European market which I believe is under the grips of Nash and Fox.
As for Korda breaking into the luggage market, I've heard a few whispers of discontent about fitting big pit reels into the rod holdalls. That's neither here nor there, but Korda 'innovations' will probably have to pull out some special items with actual innovation rather than try to muscle in on an already massive luggage market. We have the luxury of forums now, so it won't take much for them to be outed if they bring out a rod bag which is no better than a Saber but is being touted for double the price. It'll be like Merecedes trying to bring out their own range of tyres (to be a "one stop shop" as you say) when you know full well they'll never compete with establish brands like Michelin, Pirelli etc.
As for who is safe, Daiwa is a global brand. They could stop selling luggage, bedchairs, bankware and just knock out some new rods and reels and they'll still be fine. Delkims will be safe as long as Prologic/Sonik keep knocking out cheap sets of 3 + receiver that break after twelve months. Nothing will come close to Delkim/Fox/Nev/Gardner for alarms.
Of course, this is all my speculation.
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Off topic, but I've got the three rod Korda rod bag, it takes my century rods 50mm rings and entohs without any issues. I've also got two single sleeves for spod and marker. Again both with 50mm ringing and big pits. No issues with fit there either.
Off topic, but I've got the three rod Korda rod bag, it takes my century rods 50mm rings and entohs without any issues. I've also got two single sleeves for spod and marker. Again both with 50mm ringing and big pits. No issues with fit there either.
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. . .agree - I also look at Kordas figures on CH with interest - did you check out the Directors dividend section . . . . nice!
R&D is def on the agenda, which does show an intention to diversify into other products/areas (which to keep any company moving forward makes sense), but it also helps with significant tax relief whether those products come to market or not . . . .
. . .agree - I also look at Kordas figures on CH with interest - did you check out the Directors dividend section . . . . nice!
R&D is def on the agenda, which does show an intention to diversify into other products/areas (which to keep any company moving forward makes sense), but it also helps with significant tax relief whether those products come to market or not . . . .
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but it also helps with significant tax relief whether those products come to market or not . . . .
With the silly prices of some shelters, advances in fabric materials and time tested / bomb proof / customer winning products, can't someone just put together a well made, properly stitched and field tested shelter?
And probably a small % charity donations to Embryo may help with tax relief
but it also helps with significant tax relief whether those products come to market or not . . . .
With the silly prices of some shelters, advances in fabric materials and time tested / bomb proof / customer winning products, can't someone just put together a well made, properly stitched and field tested shelter?
And probably a small % charity donations to Embryo may help with tax relief
With my limited knowledge it appears Korda will re-design/improve on any product currently available to the masses under the Korda Development banner. I believe Danny has stated that in one DVD. Although you don't hear much about their Industry First (Korda Krusha) stuff anymore. So they are resign to developing existing products but make them better than competitors.
Unfortunately there is no innovation anymore which is a crying shame. Lots of great ideas out there but not being tapped into. Frank Warwick has loads and we would all benefit from his out of the box thinking.
As for the new Trakker bivvies. Look great. But I can't justify that price although some will definitely purchase them because they are latest new shelter.
Unfortunately there is no innovation anymore which is a crying shame. Lots of great ideas out there but not being tapped into. Frank Warwick has loads and we would all benefit from his out of the box thinking.
As for the new Trakker bivvies. Look great. But I can't justify that price although some will definitely purchase them because they are latest new shelter.
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Definitely if they are still making their poles out of paper
Definitely if they are still making their poles out of paper
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Anyone remember the limited edition black one they brought out?
Anyone remember the limited edition black one they brought out?
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Made of tissue paper
Made of tissue paper
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Most of them turned Orange.
Most of them turned Orange.
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