Hi all,
New to the forum.
Looking for some advice on suitable rods for tidal river fishing. I live in Sussex and the sections I wish to fish are never particularly wide (20-30 yards) but pretty strong (including the tides). There are some slower spots but quite a few I am predicting could require anywhere between a 4-8oz lead.
Targeting carp primarily but would like to have a go at the barbel as well along the way. More specifically, I am interested in the length, test curves/ action people use, and whether anyone goes at these sections with stronger barbel rods instead of carp rods.
No specific budget, just looking for the right kit for the job.
Thanks
Joe
New to the forum.
Looking for some advice on suitable rods for tidal river fishing. I live in Sussex and the sections I wish to fish are never particularly wide (20-30 yards) but pretty strong (including the tides). There are some slower spots but quite a few I am predicting could require anywhere between a 4-8oz lead.
Targeting carp primarily but would like to have a go at the barbel as well along the way. More specifically, I am interested in the length, test curves/ action people use, and whether anyone goes at these sections with stronger barbel rods instead of carp rods.
No specific budget, just looking for the right kit for the job.
Thanks
Joe
In reply to Post #1
What you looking for is a heavy action graphite rod without guides.i think it's known as a interline rod. The nylon or braid runs through the tube of the rod. Should be able to cope with what you want out of your rod. Don't have any expierance targeting Barbel, lucky enough to pick the of one up when fishing.
Try one of your local shops might be able to give you more insight 👍
What you looking for is a heavy action graphite rod without guides.i think it's known as a interline rod. The nylon or braid runs through the tube of the rod. Should be able to cope with what you want out of your rod. Don't have any expierance targeting Barbel, lucky enough to pick the of one up when fishing.
Try one of your local shops might be able to give you more insight 👍
In reply to Post #1
You just need a normal carp rod with a rest curve of 2 1/2 lb or over. Arun angling would be ideal to speak to.
You just need a normal carp rod with a rest curve of 2 1/2 lb or over. Arun angling would be ideal to speak to.
In reply to Post #1
Depends on the bank, but 12ft can help get your tips up over the top of the bank side vegetation.
Depends on the bank, but 12ft can help get your tips up over the top of the bank side vegetation.
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Chimera specialist no 3
12ft 2lb 4oz capable of casting and i mean casting 6oz weights and 5oz feeders just the job.
Chimera specialist no 3
12ft 2lb 4oz capable of casting and i mean casting 6oz weights and 5oz feeders just the job.
In reply to Post #1
Personally I would go for a 2.75lb rod as Barbel unlike carp will fight to utter exhaustion and in that event take an eternity to recover more Barbel are killed because people dont rest them and treat them like carp and feel it kick and let it go only for it to go belly up and die 50 yards down stream
so its in the fishes best interest you bully them and land them fast for their own good the rods I use are Daiwa Powermesh Barbel 2.75 fantastic action with 12 to 15lb lines but sadly hard to get hold of I have heard good things about the new Korum rods worth checking out
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Jeff posted same time as me but the rods he mentioned below are brilliant rods too
Personally I would go for a 2.75lb rod as Barbel unlike carp will fight to utter exhaustion and in that event take an eternity to recover more Barbel are killed because people dont rest them and treat them like carp and feel it kick and let it go only for it to go belly up and die 50 yards down stream
so its in the fishes best interest you bully them and land them fast for their own good the rods I use are Daiwa Powermesh Barbel 2.75 fantastic action with 12 to 15lb lines but sadly hard to get hold of I have heard good things about the new Korum rods worth checking out
EDIT
Jeff posted same time as me but the rods he mentioned below are brilliant rods too
In reply to Post #6
Gerry is bang on re fish going belly up through clueless carpers not looking after their catch correctly, a fare few have been lost from the arun because of this. If fishing these tidal rivers with a big variation of depth between high and low tide it critical to know you get to a suitable spot to land and return your capture safely. Jetfire and Gerry's rods recommendations can only comment on chimera which is superb as is drennan Martin bowler big river 2.25tc but has a lot more backbone than many higher tc carp rods for lobbing 8/10oz leads or feaders.
Gerry is bang on re fish going belly up through clueless carpers not looking after their catch correctly, a fare few have been lost from the arun because of this. If fishing these tidal rivers with a big variation of depth between high and low tide it critical to know you get to a suitable spot to land and return your capture safely. Jetfire and Gerry's rods recommendations can only comment on chimera which is superb as is drennan Martin bowler big river 2.25tc but has a lot more backbone than many higher tc carp rods for lobbing 8/10oz leads or feaders.
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Thanks, all good advice regarding the returning of fish. I fish for all species so they will have plenty of time and care when they come out and go go back.
Thanks, all good advice regarding the returning of fish. I fish for all species so they will have plenty of time and care when they come out and go go back.
In reply to Post #10
Glad to hear it mate
I always mention a couple of years ago a prolonged scrap I had with a 14lb.6oz Barbel I had done a 48 session hour at Beeston weir snag city !! I had lost most of my 4 ozs weight and feeders so as I was slowly packing up thoroughly fed up at losing my breakoff feeders and weights I saw about 85 to 95 yards down stream a bend with a bit of a slack spot I gave it the biggun and managed to drop it bang on I was just struggling up the bank with my shelter when I heard my Nash Siren screaming well I kid you not I had to battle that fish against the power of the water from the weir and when it got near the net it powered away at least 3 times on netting it I saw it was a PB I unhooked the fish my pal was standing there so quick snap with my phone and as I had around 5 feet of strong current at my feet I bank sticked my deep barbel 30" spoon net to rest looked at the time and carried on packing up checking the fish was upright facing the flow every now and then
well I completely packed the car all that was left was the fish in the net I looked at my watch and realised 45 mins had passed I had a look in the net and looking down marvelled at the width and size of this superb fish
AT THAT EXACT MOMENT the fish belched out a large bubble of air !!!!!!!! thats 45 mins since it had been out of the water
that taught me a lesson that day
Glad to hear it mate
I always mention a couple of years ago a prolonged scrap I had with a 14lb.6oz Barbel I had done a 48 session hour at Beeston weir snag city !! I had lost most of my 4 ozs weight and feeders so as I was slowly packing up thoroughly fed up at losing my breakoff feeders and weights I saw about 85 to 95 yards down stream a bend with a bit of a slack spot I gave it the biggun and managed to drop it bang on I was just struggling up the bank with my shelter when I heard my Nash Siren screaming well I kid you not I had to battle that fish against the power of the water from the weir and when it got near the net it powered away at least 3 times on netting it I saw it was a PB I unhooked the fish my pal was standing there so quick snap with my phone and as I had around 5 feet of strong current at my feet I bank sticked my deep barbel 30" spoon net to rest looked at the time and carried on packing up checking the fish was upright facing the flow every now and then
well I completely packed the car all that was left was the fish in the net I looked at my watch and realised 45 mins had passed I had a look in the net and looking down marvelled at the width and size of this superb fish
AT THAT EXACT MOMENT the fish belched out a large bubble of air !!!!!!!! thats 45 mins since it had been out of the water
that taught me a lesson that day
In reply to Post #1
Anything too stiff isn't going to be much fun playing a Barbel on however you're looking to lob a big old lump of lead (potentially) so you'll need a bit of backbone. For river carping I've used 3lb Ballistas and 3.25lb Torrix, for "big river" Barbel I use my Torrix 2.25 Barbel rods however, if I were to buy one set of rods to do both (on a budget) I'd probably go for something from Korum/Wychwood/ESP. My friends who use Korum rods have all been very pleased with them. Getting hold them (or anything else similar) seems to be the main issue, same with Daiwa Powermesh. Maybe those Extractor type rods would be suitable. I've not used one though so couldn't say.
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Anything too stiff isn't going to be much fun playing a Barbel on however you're looking to lob a big old lump of lead (potentially) so you'll need a bit of backbone. For river carping I've used 3lb Ballistas and 3.25lb Torrix, for "big river" Barbel I use my Torrix 2.25 Barbel rods however, if I were to buy one set of rods to do both (on a budget) I'd probably go for something from Korum/Wychwood/ESP. My friends who use Korum rods have all been very pleased with them. Getting hold them (or anything else similar) seems to be the main issue, same with Daiwa Powermesh. Maybe those Extractor type rods would be suitable. I've not used one though so couldn't say.
Money no object, Harrison all day long. Can you tell, I'm a fan
In reply to Post #10
Are you going to be fishing the Arun?
If so 3lb test curve will be fine ... You have more problems with logs and raft of weed then fish
Are you going to be fishing the Arun?
If so 3lb test curve will be fine ... You have more problems with logs and raft of weed then fish
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I've just moved back locally to the Arun and Rother so that's where I am aiming to go. The Adur isn't too far away either but I am less familiar with that river. Thanks that is really helpful regarding the test curve
I've just moved back locally to the Arun and Rother so that's where I am aiming to go. The Adur isn't too far away either but I am less familiar with that river. Thanks that is really helpful regarding the test curve
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13' 2.75 Hi S Heavy Water Special. Absolutely superb rods that initially feel softer than 2.75, but load them up with an 8oz lead and you can feel the power down the blank. Beautiful to play fish on too, the 13' length allowing for a softer, more sensitive tip.
I bought them for the tidal Trent, but they're so good I sold my S Lite Carp rods as I'll be using them for Carping too.
13' 2.75 Hi S Heavy Water Special. Absolutely superb rods that initially feel softer than 2.75, but load them up with an 8oz lead and you can feel the power down the blank. Beautiful to play fish on too, the 13' length allowing for a softer, more sensitive tip.
I bought them for the tidal Trent, but they're so good I sold my S Lite Carp rods as I'll be using them for Carping too.
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I've fished the arun on and off for fifty years and fished the rother, the arun in the lower reaches requires stronger tackle and and more powerful rods when the tide is in full flow. If you've read Pete springate's book moon River you'll see some of those sections are better fished from a boat.
I've fished the arun on and off for fifty years and fished the rother, the arun in the lower reaches requires stronger tackle and and more powerful rods when the tide is in full flow. If you've read Pete springate's book moon River you'll see some of those sections are better fished from a boat.
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Something I have been thinking about as well as the rivers for the most part are fairly inaccessible. I have seen someone pass me using a boat with their gear in near Watersfield, might well have been Pete!! Would love to read the book, seems hard to come by though, will have to keep my eye out. Thanks.
Something I have been thinking about as well as the rivers for the most part are fairly inaccessible. I have seen someone pass me using a boat with their gear in near Watersfield, might well have been Pete!! Would love to read the book, seems hard to come by though, will have to keep my eye out. Thanks.
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That's interesting. I'm in the market for some 2.75 Barbel rods, and the Hi-s are on my list, but I'd not heard good reports about them. Too stiff, poor playing action, so on, so on. Nice to get a differing opinion on them. I'd almost gone for the Daiwa Basia barbel rods, I'll have to have a re think.
That's interesting. I'm in the market for some 2.75 Barbel rods, and the Hi-s are on my list, but I'd not heard good reports about them. Too stiff, poor playing action, so on, so on. Nice to get a differing opinion on them. I'd almost gone for the Daiwa Basia barbel rods, I'll have to have a re think.
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Exactly what my mate found with his 13' 2.75 Hi S he said they just wanted to stay straight he sold them on and has replaced them with the New Harrison 13` rods and said they are so much better
Exactly what my mate found with his 13' 2.75 Hi S he said they just wanted to stay straight he sold them on and has replaced them with the New Harrison 13` rods and said they are so much better
In reply to Post #19
Stiff? They're absolutely nowhere near stiff
They're better to play fish on than the 2.25 Fox Duo I had previously, and they feel softer in the tip until you load them up as the tip is slim for sensitivity. They make my S Lite carp rods feel like telegraph poles.
They've got lots of backbone yes, but you're not lobbing out an 8oz lead without that. I had 4 Barbel to 10.02 first time out and was grinning like a loon when playing them.
I've seen a few posts on Barbel forums/pages saying Hi S are soft actioned compared to the cheaper ‘S' or CTX blanks, but none saying they're too stiff.
Best rods I've ever had by a mile.
Stiff? They're absolutely nowhere near stiff
They're better to play fish on than the 2.25 Fox Duo I had previously, and they feel softer in the tip until you load them up as the tip is slim for sensitivity. They make my S Lite carp rods feel like telegraph poles. They've got lots of backbone yes, but you're not lobbing out an 8oz lead without that. I had 4 Barbel to 10.02 first time out and was grinning like a loon when playing them.
I've seen a few posts on Barbel forums/pages saying Hi S are soft actioned compared to the cheaper ‘S' or CTX blanks, but none saying they're too stiff.
Best rods I've ever had by a mile.
In reply to Post #20
opinions mate
all I can tell you is he has lived close to the Trent all his life and fished for Barbel for the past 40 odd years on the Trent and found them too stiff and has used most rods he mentioned it on BFW recently there were some good posts on rods
glad you happy with them
opinions mate
all I can tell you is he has lived close to the Trent all his life and fished for Barbel for the past 40 odd years on the Trent and found them too stiff and has used most rods he mentioned it on BFW recently there were some good posts on rods
glad you happy with them
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