I am going to buy a new set of 10ft

After having seen 8 brands these 2 are on my list,.
Am not looking for other choices, it is going to be one of these two

-Daiwa Cast'izm 10ft 3.00 Cork (2 set price 317)
I was impressed by the looks of the rod and how the feels
One of the better non custom build 10ft rod in my opinion (many sites/webshops say 50mm starting eye but the starting eye is 35mm)

Or:

-Tackle Box Cfx 10ft Cork Custom build (2 set price £315.00 + £27.15 shipping costs)
-Cork handle, above reel holder no front Cork just Black collar
- 6+1 rings (40-12 )

Cfx price is with Sea guide black reel seat and Sea guide rings

Are these Sea guides reel holder and rings a good choice and does anyone happen to have user experience with the Daiwa Cast "izm 10ft?

In reply to Post #1
To pay that much for a 10ft rod is madness, but your choice.

Its never going to be a long distance casting machine so why...

The 10ft rods i use cost about £30 and do all they'd ever need and are in no way a compromise.
Loads of 10ft rod threads, tons of good info already posted.

In reply to Post #2
The price is acceptable to me, and I can cast 91 yards with 10ft Dwarf, for further I'm going to buy a bait boat.

And yeah I have read all those 10ft topic's but nothing about the Daiwa Cast'izm 10ft 3.00lb or about Sea guide ring / reel holder

In reply to Post #1
To be honest, if I buy any rods for short range or boat work it would be the Free Spirit CTX or S-Lite. I do own a set of 9ft Scopes but I feel limited with them... I do love them but they just have that limited feel I was never 100% satisfied with them like I was my Tribals.

I'm sure you will find something you feel happy with taming the beasts that swims before you.

have a look at future fishing on Facebook,they've just put out a video of some daiwa rods they've had tweeked for themselves,alot of rod for the money and look awesome.

Future fishing are unfortunately without Cork handle and that is a must for me

Tested the new Ctx/E class gold those new blanks are to stiff even my 10ft dwarf 3.25 felt alot softer, no longer fan of the cheaper Fs range, S-range (not S lite) was a option but price is alot more.


I indeed read a lot of good about the CFX but the problem is i can't test them (live in Belgium, Daiwa's cast'izm i can test ) I don't want to end up with a 10ft rod that only bends on the tip.

Also have no idea how the quality of Sea guide rings / reel holder is.

In reply to Post #1
I don't personally use these or haven't used them at all but a very good friend of mine has bought these exact rods last summer and has used them up till now, the finish on them are absolutely stunning. He loves them that much he is considering selling his 12ft torrix (his decision not mine) and having a 12ft set made up.

For me spending this much on a set of 10ft rods is absolutely fine, if you consider it ok to you then that's all that matters. Like everything in fishing if you can afford it and want it then why not? Some people might think it's crazy but I can't see a problem.

I'm using some Cotswold Rods 10ft 3.5lbs rods and i love them.
But Terry Edmonds told me the 10ft 3lbs Shimano TX2's are fantastic little rods as well!
Not expensive either, and available with cork handles.

In reply to Post #1
Aviators .

In reply to Post #9
Price x 2 compared to the Cast'izm / Cfx and I am not looking for any other rod outside of this 2.

In reply to Post #10
Ah ok did,nt read it properly 👍

In reply to Post #8
The pink tipping and no full 1/3k weave pattern bothers me a lot from the Tx-2...

My 2 rod set is sold today, so there is money to buy Daiwa Cast'izm or Cf-X, too bad there is no user experience about the cast'izm 10ft

In reply to Post #1
Ive got the 10ft 3lb cfx rods that I had custom built and they are great rods, the sea guides reel seats seem fine I can't comment on the guides as I went with the Vortex guides.

In reply to Post #12
Don't think the cast'izm 10ft is available in the UK, if it were I'd be interested in the 2.5tc.

In reply to Post #14
Belgium (Carpcube), i live in Ostend

Pff pull my hairs out in my search for new 10ft rods

Found this one too stiff (almost to no bend from the middle)

-Ctx 10/12 2.75 / 3.00
-E-class gold 10/12 2.75 / 3.00
-Trakker Df 10ft
-Trakker Propel 10ft
-Fox X ...
-Shimano Tx-2 10 / 12ft

-Tackle Box Cf-X, TB told me that these of action are similar to the E-class so especially Tip bending


Rods that I really liked by bending in the middle

-Century armalite 10ft 2.75 (worth the money?)
-Daiwa Cast'izm cork 10ft 3.00
-Avid traction 10ft (no cork )
-Dwarf 10ft 3.25 cork (look for something of a higher level)



Which rods are also worth looking at?

-Wychwood extricator plus cork (do these mainly bend on the tip or also in the middle?)
-Nash Scope 2020 Cork?

In reply to Post #16
Who did you speak to at the tackle box? I've got the cfx 10ft 3lb and they are not tippy at all.

Caroline and Garry.

They tested for me:

-CTX 10ft 3.25Lb
-E-class gold 3.00Lb
-Dwarf shrink 10ft 3.25Lb
-CF-X 3.00Lb

And they told me the following: CF-X are firmer in both test curves, more similar to the E class 10ft 3.25,
Because I have already tested the CTX/E-class gold, i think that CF-X is not the right rod for me.

In reply to Post #16
I've got 10ft 3lb tc scopes and love them, 9ft 2.25tc scopes that I've battered, thrown in bushes, car and lake on more than one occasion, would love to see the daiwa 2.5tc but if can't or find their not right will buy another set of scopes.

This was a test with my Dwarf 10ft 3.25
Photo dwarf bend test

Also tested with the CTX / E class gold, both bend a lot less than the Dwarf, where you feel the Dwarf bending in the middle the Free spirits do this a lot more on the tip

In reply to Post #19
Yes, the Daiwas are tempting

Longer handle than the dwarfs, only 6 eyes but start eye is placed a bit backwards

Also seen, the 12ft Cast'izm felt good but ugly with that stupid 50mm eye

The 10ft Cast'izm has a 35mm starting eye, many rievies say 50mm but that is incorrect.

In reply to Post #18
I spoke to Gary Peet the guy who designed the rods.

In reply to Post #18
dp

In reply to Post #21
From what I read on the forum and in your posts then it sounds like a pair of Harrison Ballista 10ft 2.75lb would be worth considering. Or get the Cast'izms and find inner peace

Lol i ask wychwood on Fb: Where in Belgium/The Neterlands can i buy your tackle?
Their answer: You might be better off with Fox over there (euhh no Thx )

( Wanted to check out the Extricator Plus)

@ Goose, Protackleshop maby.

In reply to Post #18
The old e class bank creeper was 2.5 and bent right through under load
The problem is you're comparing rods of 3lb and above.. meaning they bend to 90 degrees with 3lb of force, if it's a real through action that bends to the handle with 3lb it will be gutless and something faster may bend at the top to 90 degrees but take take about 15lb to bend deeper in the blank.
The problem is people want a 10ft rod that's a mini ‘carp' rod with big guides and a long handle that can cast X yards.. that's not the point of a short rod and the end product is more often than not utter ****.
IMO you want a progressive action in 1.75-2.25 for what you describe and they're not very common in 9-10ft.. or a 3lb tip on a 2lb butt section
There's a reason floppy spaghetti rods were superseded by lighter, crisper and more responsive modern models but now it's moving more towards stout broomsticks to accommodate big guides, reels and leads

In reply to Post #26
Tc doesn't say everything either
Look at my picture (#20) of my previous 10ft 3.25lb Dwarf how it bends (used weight was 60oz) the Ctx/E-class gold cannot bend like this in 2.75lb with the same weight

From what I've seen till now the Armalite seem to have everything i'm looking for, capable of throwing 80 yards, I can use them with 7oz lead on channels and they have a very nice fish play action with enough power but the cost me 200 more then the Daiwa Casr'izm...

I also do not want to be able to throw very far with a 10ft although I reached 85yard with 10ft dwarfs but that is not necessary (going to buy a bait boat) I also find big eyes ugly, I prefer 8 eyes with starting eye 30/40 mm
but you hardly find that with Fabric rods

Tuesday I will visit a rod builder again to look again at his 10ft 2.5 blank, these are made in China in a manufacturer that mainly makes fly fish blanks for Eu brands and now also has 2 Carp blanks in 2.00/2.50LB, totally different in appearance, no 1/3k weave pattern or clear finish, but something in the style like the Ctx but in black and more an X pattern

In reply to Post #27
You've actually repeated what I said in a roundabout way, I know you don't want a broomstick.
My comments are about what the majority expect from a rod so that's what the manufacturers give them and why the only real way to get what you're describing is with a high end/custom rod

If you know a good 10ft fabric rod with cork outside the Cast'izm, Armalite, Fs S range, i would like to hear it,
then I can add it to my list, still have a few more weeks before I decide.

In reply to Post #29
I wouldn't know. Honestly, read your posts back. You want something that off the shelf isn't available unless you take a compromise in performance or cosmetically. Like guide size, height and layout or handle configuration. Sod that
You currently have, no offence, cheap Chinese catalogue blanks. A scope is a better quality blank out of the same catalogue and those sly dogs put the longer handles people want, higher ‘tc' and bigger or better guides. Some brilliant blanks have been mass produced in Asia, look at free spirit.
But there's always a compromise one way or the other
I wouldn't entertain a rod unless I'd physically seen, built or had built for me exactly what I want, or the compromise was justified financially.
If this century rod has everything you want, buy those.
If you go to 11' you'll have loads more choice

Free spirit is a dead end here in Belgium, the only store that sells them has no idea of ​​the models you can find in the UK, and communication is also difficult with Fs + with corona/Brexit a hassle in terms of delivery.

On the list:

-Armalite 10ft 2.75 (need custom build option, depends on the price)

-Daiwa Cast'izm 10 ft 3.00 Cork (+ Mid price, like the looks, - the 6 rings are unfortunate, I have Shimano reels )

-Nash Scope 10ft 3.00 (nice deal now £322 for 2)

-Spectra Compacts 10ft 3.00 (cant test them, liked the bending of the Dwarf 3.25 (no Carbon) the 3Lb Spectra would be similar but lighter and more responsive.

-The blank of the Rod Builder is apparently from Xzoga (Malaysia)

In reply to Post #25
Last i heard wychwood is being distributed by hengelsport vught in holland, but maybe not anymore seeing the reply from wychwood themselves. But, they do have some gear in stock, so maybe they can help you.

And adding to the confusion, you could have a look at pb products, 10 ft, 30 mm starting eye, kinda parabolic. I know some people that rate them quite high> i only held them briefly some time ago, and dismissed them because of their forced old skool look (and because it's just not my brand, but thtat's silly:O).

In reply to Post #32
I used to have the 9' free spirit creepers because most of my fishing is on my local canal,but sold them in June to a guy I worked with and bought 2 Harrison torrix custom 10' from the tackle box,and then On the 5/6 time I used them I went to a lake with the guy who had my ctx's off me first cast to have a lead around and snapped one new rod.
Had to send it off they paid for collection and got it replaced for me great service great rods ideal for me for what I want as they are beefed up a bit as you never know what's in the canals.

In talks for the Armalite but Century isn't sure if they'll be doing Armalite's in the coming weeks / months
They're gonna check for me this week if they still have Blanks

Bought a set of Daiwa Cast'izm 10ft 3.00lb today

there are not many rods in 10ft that are not to stiff in middle/butt sectione , was especially disappointed in free spirit Ctx / E class gold, have tested the Ctx creeper today also stiff in middle/butt section and only bends in the front section.

For those who are considering Scopes, definitely take a look at this Daiwa Cast'izm, Scopes can't match the Daiwa's

In reply to Post #35
I also ordered cast'izm, 10ft 3lb with cork handles, I will put ss2600 whisker on them. I prefer the rods whit parabolic action so I chose daiwu cast'izm.

In reply to Post #35
Don't know your price range but century has some world class parabolic 10ft rods.

If your pockets aren't so deep, have a look at jrc razors, 10ft.

In reply to Post #37
Already have the Cast'izs