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Scope re rung (26 posts / 1,481 views)
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #1 30 Nov 2020 08:16
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I'd like to get my scopes re rung as the braid has cut into the supposed minima rings. Just wondered how much it would cost and if anyone on here does work like this?

Also not in a mega rush
carpy09 carpy09
Posts: 14,236
Post #2 30 Nov 2020 09:16
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In reply to Post #1
As you are in Kent speak to the tackle box in dartford they have on site rod building and repairs also you have Steve white custom rods in Kent
mere--man mere--man
Posts: 577
Post #3 30 Nov 2020 09:18
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In reply to Post #1
You'd probably be looking at around £90-100 per rod. At a guess, depending whether or not you'd want minima ringing again or something else.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
Posts: 2,458
Post #4 30 Nov 2020 09:32
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In reply to Post #1
I don't think it would be worth doing cost to much is it all the rings if your just changing a few that are damaged it would be ok but as said £80 £100 per rod for all
DiesilVan
Posts: 1,487
Post #5 30 Nov 2020 10:40
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As an example, my rod builder charges £12 per ring plus the cost of the rings. No idea how that matches up to others though.
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
Posts: 1,901
Post #6 30 Nov 2020 10:44
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In reply to Post #5
Should be ok I've got 2 rings per rod on 2 rods. Bit disappointing the braid has done the damage it has on a reasonably expensive rod
darkoL darkoL
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Post #7 30 Nov 2020 10:49
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In reply to Post #6
nothing new on nash rods
AndyClark AndyClark
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Post #8 30 Nov 2020 10:59
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In reply to Post #6
reasonably expensive yes,expensive quality no.
DiesilVan
Posts: 1,487
Post #9 30 Nov 2020 11:05
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Made me a little concerned now as my Infinity X45's have Minima guides & with what they cost, I don't fancy having to change rings every few years!!! I did query how good the Minima guides were when I bought them but was told they are fine with braid!

At least it gives me an excuse to have them rerung with Fuji K Series down the line....
Bivvybug Bivvybug
Posts: 2,458
Post #10 30 Nov 2020 12:01
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In reply to Post #6
I am sorry this has happened to you I keep trying to tell people scopes are an expensive rod but poor quality cheaply made they get confused with price and quality like a lot of tackle out there
noj
Posts: 11,459
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Not nash's fault.
I grooved genuine minimas with braid. Just two Bob guides for anything above a specialist rod
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #12 30 Nov 2020 12:25
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In reply to Post #11
To be fair the rods have been bang on until I switched to braid, had them a good few years too. I'll likely get a couple changed for the sake of £60
Yellowman Yellowman
Posts: 519
Post #13 30 Nov 2020 13:42
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In reply to Post #11
Agreed poor guides, Fuji are twice as good !
jeffire jeffire
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Post #14 30 Nov 2020 14:27
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As said , i wont fit minima guides apart from grooving they bend in a strong wind, fuji or kigan for me .
bluebeat13
Posts: 2,168
Post #15 30 Nov 2020 16:00
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In reply to Post #14
Have you built a rod with the American Tackle Vortex guides people are offering instead of the minimas? Any idea how these stand up to braid? Very light and not expensive.
jeffire jeffire
Posts: 4,442
Post #16 30 Nov 2020 16:30
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In reply to Post #15
I have had a look at them as harrisons are selling them but to be honest i have had no issues with fuji or kigans that i have no need to change.
mere--man mere--man
Posts: 577
Post #17 30 Nov 2020 16:35
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In reply to Post #14
Never had any issues with minima guides in nearly 10 years of having them on my Cotswolds r1's. So much so have had them on every other custom built rod I own, fishing at over 400m with braid, in harsh conditions, always been super durable despite getting used pretty brutally. Perhaps the quality has gone downhill more recently?
jeffire jeffire
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Post #18 30 Nov 2020 16:45
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In reply to Post #17
I know other people that have them on rods and they have been fine but i have fitted them and had rods back within 3 months and had to completely strip and change guides , im not doing it again so wont fit them , there seems to be no consistency in the quality.
Goose Goose
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Post #19 30 Nov 2020 19:56
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In reply to Post #18
Prity sure when minima first came out they were not recommended for use with braid and my rod builder would use use different tip guides.
kizzi
Posts: 2,526
Post #20 30 Nov 2020 20:15
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I have had minimas on my r1 lights for 9 years. My minimas are fine and I have used both floating and sinking braids. Tom did insist that I had a Kigan tip ring though

Mind you. I don't hook many
jeffire jeffire
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Post #21 30 Nov 2020 20:29
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In reply to Post #19
I dont know any rod builders that fit minima tip guide
littleian littleian
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Post #22 30 Nov 2020 22:53
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In reply to Post #21
I did a bit of internet research on these rings as they're extremely popular with home rod builders in the USA and i was toying with putting them on some aviators i built. I think a common opinion over there is that it all depends on what kind of waters your fishing in terms of suspended sediments and substrates which collect in braid particularly. A friend of mine also had issues with flurocarbon grooving them which was enough to sway me away from them and back to the more traditional ceramic lined guides as i don't intend to rebuild very often. I do wonder how kind/unkind these ultra light skinny guides are on mainlines as the thinner the guide liners the less heat dissipation and perhaps that is another contributing factor as to why they groove.
bluebeat13
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Post #23 1 Dec 2020 09:06
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In reply to Post #22
Are you talking about the minimas or the AT vortex?
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
Posts: 1,901
Post #24 1 Dec 2020 10:08
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In reply to Post #23
Tackle box will replace the damaged ones for a reasonable cost. Back to flouro!
DaveSG DaveSG
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Post #25 1 Dec 2020 13:00
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Never really like the look of the minima type guides they look fragile and i think the only thing they do is reduce weight and build cost - ceramic is used for a good reason.

also, if they were that good, they would be on every single super light spinning rod as standard ?
littleian littleian
Posts: 1,505
Post #26 1 Dec 2020 16:18
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In reply to Post #23
Sorry bluebeat i was talking about the minimas
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