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Ultegra XTD14000 or Okuma T-Rex 7000 (41 posts / 8,726 views)
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #1 31 Oct 2020 05:50
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First set of ‘big pit' reels Ultegra XTD 14000 or Okuma T-Rex 7000. Leaning towards the T-Rex, haven't been able to hold both in hand to directly compare. Need your help please. Have Shimano TX4 rods 3.5Ib t.c. Target fishing 80 - 140 yards.
The_lone_ranger The_lone_ranger
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Post #2 31 Oct 2020 09:43
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If that's your shortlist I'd go shimano every time.. Based on future value
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #3 31 Oct 2020 09:57
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I'd go trex based on build quality and value for money but then I buy tackle to hopefully last me years rather than to sell on in a couple of years
ip100 ip100
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Post #4 31 Oct 2020 09:59
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In reply to Post #1
Is there any reason you've narrowed to those two in particular?
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #5 23 Nov 2020 22:27
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Sorry for not being on-line for a month. Still deciding, so interested in views and peoples experience.
My research into medium, big pit reels - based on looks and budget. Do want to keep for 10 yrs plus, not resell on after number of monthsI'm not solely a tackle tart, but fashion marketing tends to pull me in if in my budget - £150 max. Use Shimano old grey 10,000 baitrunners. Had them for yonks. Just want to fish at distance without too much effort. Open to other suggestions.
Ultegra14000 is where I'm leaning. But recently read bad reviews - cheap build quality, after some use, not as smooth as new and clutch, free to fix ends Up being 4 turns. New T-Rex is a good alternative, for less money. Haven't managed to get my hands on the T-Rex 7000 in person to see, touch and test, let alone side by side.
Long piece I know, keen to hear from you before Xmas purchase.
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #6 23 Nov 2020 22:29
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Thanks for your view.
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #7 23 Nov 2020 23:55
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No problem, If your considering the xtd's I'd seriously take a look at the Penn affinity 2 carbon customs or the newer affinity 3,they are such solid reels for the money much better build quality than the shimano in my opinion but then I'd even say the okuma's are better quality lol
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #8 24 Nov 2020 08:21
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Looks a nice reel. Reviewed the carpology vid review. Pushing my budget. I guess quality costs. Will try to find at my local AD to get hands on.
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #9 24 Nov 2020 08:39
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Found custom carbons for £167, now getting interest. Thanks.
ip100 ip100
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Post #10 24 Nov 2020 08:49
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Go for them, or the older non carbon ones. Way better that the reels you mentioned
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #11 24 Nov 2020 09:03
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Definitely go for the penn over the xtd
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #12 24 Nov 2020 09:25
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As Ian said even the standard affinity 2's are better than the xtd's, I managed to pick up a brand new set of 3 for 220 last year on ebay.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #13 24 Nov 2020 14:56
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Ian were your affinity,s the original ones or mk 2 ?
ip100 ip100
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Post #14 24 Nov 2020 17:17
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I had the original 8000s and mk2 7000s jeff
jeffire jeffire
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Post #15 24 Nov 2020 17:28
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How do you rate the mk11 to the original ?
ip100 ip100
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Post #16 24 Nov 2020 19:38
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Both very good jeff, I preferred the drag dial on the mk2, no difference in how it worked but the shape is better for me on the second version. Other than that I couldn't seperate them really.
Pizza Pizza
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Post #17 24 Nov 2020 19:55
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Anyone know what is different on the Mk3's?
jeffire jeffire
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Post #18 24 Nov 2020 21:31
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Do the handles fold on mk 2 like mk 1
ip100 ip100
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Post #19 24 Nov 2020 22:16
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Yes mate
Lostagudun
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Post #20 24 Nov 2020 22:22
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They are stated as a quick drag, how quick are the ones you use bud.
More than half a turn from lock up to free spool?
jeffire jeffire
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Post #21 24 Nov 2020 23:29
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ip100 ip100
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Post #22 25 Nov 2020 06:09
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No, about half a turn if I remember correctly.
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #23 25 Nov 2020 08:46
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Thanks IP and Weaver. I did look at these previously and for no reason, dropped off the list. I'm asking the Miss to send off to Santa for a set of the AF II 7000 LC CC. The LC Blacks II and new III have too much white text and I think the weight and drag feature are worth the extra cash on the CCs. The drag/spool face-on, looks wise compares to the Basia Customs. Best looking reels in my view, but can't justify the price to purchase.
So thanks for recommendations. Fingers crossed, hope Santa avoids COVID.
TimMarshall TimMarshall
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Post #24 25 Nov 2020 15:48
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14000XTDs... Been using mine for about 2 years. I'm not gentle on my gear, e,g. made up rods are transported in a jonboat to the spot. Do need the sili washers ... only real negative is handles, need to loosen to close them..
Lostagudun
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Post #25 25 Nov 2020 17:33
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Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #26 26 Nov 2020 07:11
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Thread now has wrong title, as I've ordered the Penn Affinity 7000 Longcast Custom Carbons - retail price £219, seen them across the web for all sorts of prices normally £189. I've just brought them for £149.99 from Waveinn on-line, the Affinity variants are also available at good prices in case anyone is in the market.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #27 26 Nov 2020 07:49
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£127 if you'd used the discount code BF15 apparently
poms
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Post #28 26 Nov 2020 08:16
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Id take the Okuma all day long in this choice. The XTD is the cheaper cousin of the rest of the Ultegra range and feels it too me.

Okuma, whilst perceived as cheap, open one up and see the contrast of engineering. The T-Rex is a great reel, solid and will serve you well for year. Same for the Okuma 8K, a seriously good reel often ignored purely based on the name of company.

Daiwa & Shimano have dominated the market for years in the UK but when you actually compare Penn & Okuma against them, technically they both easily out engineer the Daiwa & Shimano offerings and for significantly less investment.

Ive sold my Shimanos for Okuma and haven't ever regretted it, quite the opposite.

If you wanna talk, best engineered, best reels in the World, then Daiwa Saltiga, Shimano Stella and the Okuma Makira all have there positives. Also, Okuma is one of the biggest reel manufacturers in the world so they aint no tinpot, fly by night product.
esoxlucious esoxlucious
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Post #29 26 Nov 2020 10:01
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absolute rubbish try using these reels for sea fishing where they come under extreme load all but the shimmano will be goosed in no time.Been there worn the teashirt time and time again.People talk absolute crap on here about reels.
ip100 ip100
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Post #30 26 Nov 2020 10:06
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None more so than you......
poms
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Post #31 26 Nov 2020 10:16
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Esox, id have to argue that with you IMHO. Go into any Bass pro shop in America and ask the guys behind the counter, which would they choose too spend the own money on and a huge % would state Penn and Okuma for all but the biggest of game fish.

Were talking carp reels and both the Penn and the Okuma are easily as well engineered to withstand all UK fishing.

Id certainly take both Penn and Okuma too the beach over a daiwa carp reel. Shimano, only there better, higher end models but still, I cant see how youd justify your statement. Again, IMO.
poms
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Post #32 26 Nov 2020 10:19
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An Okuma Maikra fixed spool is easily as capable as any Stella ! But we aren't talking big pelaric fish, were talking carp , catfish and Pike fishing.
bluebeat13
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Post #33 26 Nov 2020 10:59
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In reply to Post #27
The reels are exempt from the code.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #34 26 Nov 2020 12:49
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Yeah those ridiculously proportioned £100 shimanos will really hold their own in the salt
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #35 26 Nov 2020 12:59
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Shut up Shimano boy,you're boring
Armchair_angler Armchair_angler
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Post #36 26 Nov 2020 18:56
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Tried that. Didn't work, as reels already discounted.
Bootleg
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Post #37 2 Mar 2023 10:56
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Hi
Anyone know if you can buy a spare spool for the TReX 7000.

I've searched and even been to the Okuma page and don't seem to be able to buy one!
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #38 2 Mar 2023 12:24
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There seems to be quite a few shops abroad that stock them,surely a UK supplier could get you some.Give Parkfield Angling a call they are very helpful
Rebullio Rebullio
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Post #39 3 Mar 2023 15:53
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I tried last year to get a spare spool, no joy, a couple of places said they would ask the rep but never got back to me, shame as really nice reels for the money
mark1009
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Post #40 3 Mar 2023 16:03
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I had to get the spare spools for my Okuma 8ks from Slovakia. So worth looking abroad.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #41 3 Mar 2023 16:09
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I have a okuma spod reel 2x inc 6000 and a small spinning reel I've had an instant reaction to all of them what a great reel for the price very happy with them all
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