So
What does everyone make of their stuff then ? Is it worth it like the DPM typhoon stuff but am I better of paying more for the tempest
What does everyone make of their stuff then ? Is it worth it like the DPM typhoon stuff but am I better of paying more for the tempest
In reply to Post #1
There's loads of threads on here about their stuff. It's no worse than anyone elses. It comes out of the same factory as trakker.
There's loads of threads on here about their stuff. It's no worse than anyone elses. It comes out of the same factory as trakker.
Just be careful and ask before you order to make sure you will get what you want!
I ordered a DPM4 Typhoon skull cap a few weeks ago and what turned up was a DPM4 MH (max headroom) skull cap in Ripstop. I didn't even try it and contacted them to be told that the Typhoon shares the same skull cap with the MH and the Ripstop is an "upgraded" material....(in their opinion of course).
Begs the question then why it doesn't state on their website that it is in fact Ripstop and also, what's the bets that the Storm DPM skull cap, (at £89.99. not £109.99) is not exactly the same one? That is 210D fabric and the skull cap for the Typhoon is also listed as 210D.....
I ordered a DPM4 Typhoon skull cap a few weeks ago and what turned up was a DPM4 MH (max headroom) skull cap in Ripstop. I didn't even try it and contacted them to be told that the Typhoon shares the same skull cap with the MH and the Ripstop is an "upgraded" material....(in their opinion of course).
Begs the question then why it doesn't state on their website that it is in fact Ripstop and also, what's the bets that the Storm DPM skull cap, (at £89.99. not £109.99) is not exactly the same one? That is 210D fabric and the skull cap for the Typhoon is also listed as 210D.....
I have been cotemplating between a Typhoon & a Storm. so i could save myself some money with the storm and end up getting the same material? only thing is the potential difference in the block (composite or aluminium)
In reply to Post #4
Seen a few and there blocks don't look good enough to last. Too much movement with the 3 front poles
Seen a few and there blocks don't look good enough to last. Too much movement with the 3 front poles
In reply to Post #5
Is that the Typhoons you have seen with the aluminium block?
Is that the Typhoons you have seen with the aluminium block?
In reply to Post #6
Have a look at the Quest Defier bivvy. For me it's that one, the new Fox or maybe the new Korda one.
Have a look at the Quest Defier bivvy. For me it's that one, the new Fox or maybe the new Korda one.
Going to go against the fashion here and wouldn't touch it myself
A very good friend of mine bought the typhoon when it first come out form what I've seen I would never buy cyprinus if it was my money, badges up side down, the pegging points came off the bivvy on the second trip. The storm poles are awful aswell I honestly don't believe that they come out the same factory or at least the same production line as Trakker/aqua I've never seen half the problems he has had on any of them and I don't care what people say about it I the quality control must be rubbish
Just pay the extra for the tempest he has replaced his typhoon with a tempest now
A very good friend of mine bought the typhoon when it first come out form what I've seen I would never buy cyprinus if it was my money, badges up side down, the pegging points came off the bivvy on the second trip. The storm poles are awful aswell I honestly don't believe that they come out the same factory or at least the same production line as Trakker/aqua I've never seen half the problems he has had on any of them and I don't care what people say about it I the quality control must be rubbish
Just pay the extra for the tempest he has replaced his typhoon with a tempest now
In reply to Post #8
Apart from some of the early stuff....which WAS rebadged aqua and tracker stuff, the rest just looks very average to me.
Apart from some of the early stuff....which WAS rebadged aqua and tracker stuff, the rest just looks very average to me.
In reply to Post #6
The more expensive one, I don't know the name lol there not built to last
The more expensive one, I don't know the name lol there not built to last
In reply to Post #8
I've been using my typhoon since March and I cannot fault it. Its stable has rear vents, zip in ground sheet which I really like, vapour shield, and 20,000 hh all for £400 delivered. Its basically a tempest with an aluminium block instead of plastic one and a tiny bit different to set up. Did your friend take pictures of all these faults you mention and can you post them on here so we can see them.
I've been using my typhoon since March and I cannot fault it. Its stable has rear vents, zip in ground sheet which I really like, vapour shield, and 20,000 hh all for £400 delivered. Its basically a tempest with an aluminium block instead of plastic one and a tiny bit different to set up. Did your friend take pictures of all these faults you mention and can you post them on here so we can see them.
In reply to Post #11
My Tempest doesn't have a plastic block.
My Tempest doesn't have a plastic block.
In reply to Post #11
He sent me a vid but putting that up let alone a pic is impossible on here
He sent me a vid but putting that up let alone a pic is impossible on here
In reply to Post #8
I've got it in writing, directly from Cyprinus themselves, that they share the same production facilities as Trakker. I can also confirm that it's not just early stuff that was the same, I bought a tempest skull cap from cyprinus only a couple of months ago and it turned up In a trakker box.
I've got it in writing, directly from Cyprinus themselves, that they share the same production facilities as Trakker. I can also confirm that it's not just early stuff that was the same, I bought a tempest skull cap from cyprinus only a couple of months ago and it turned up In a trakker box.
In reply to Post #14
Funny how there's never been any comments in print from Trakker about it.
Funny how there's never been any comments in print from Trakker about it.
In reply to Post #14
My cyprinus compact dpm turned up in a trakker box with a cyprinus sticker over it.
My cyprinus compact dpm turned up in a trakker box with a cyprinus sticker over it.
In reply to Post #12
Is it not composite block.
Is it not composite block.
In reply to Post #14
That may be so but some of the shades of Aquatexx Cyprinus bang out vary massively....it has been suggested before that they get the rejects and off-cuts and I very much believe it.
That may be so but some of the shades of Aquatexx Cyprinus bang out vary massively....it has been suggested before that they get the rejects and off-cuts and I very much believe it.
In reply to Post #17
Nope, its metal.
Nope, its metal.
I have bought the Typhoon MH DPM and it's good, but it is seeming lacking a bit of quality. The storm poles slide down after some tension has been applied after a few minutes. The DPM material is good as it's 20k HH but the stitching is not very good. Looks very average. The vapour shield is very poor quality. The skull cap is nowhere near worth £110. It's very poor quality for this price tag. All in all. I'm £660 in and I'm satisfied with the room/space it provides, vents etc. In terms of quality I'm disappointed. Although I can't compare it to Trakker as I've never had one.
They may be done in the same place then but like a few has already mentioned possibly rejects or cut offs because they are not the the same quality and anyone who has actually owned a tempest and a typhoon will say the quality is no where near as good, my tempest next to my mates typhoon you could see the difference and only way I could see why you would get one is because someone doesn't want to pay out for a tempest or a titan
I don't have any pictures but I no what I've seen myself, fair play to cyprinus tho they replaced it free of charge but he just sold it straight away without using it and bought a tempest
I don't have any pictures but I no what I've seen myself, fair play to cyprinus tho they replaced it free of charge but he just sold it straight away without using it and bought a tempest
In reply to Post #14
They aren't from the same factory and they dont use Aquatex, no one else in Angling use's Aquatex because Trakker has the sole license for it in the angling industry, the same material goes under other names in other industries.
I'll ask again, doesn't anyone think it odd that there has been nothing in print from Trakker about Cyprinus sending out counterfeit/inferior product in Trakker branded boxes?
There is a reason why !!!! and only one.
They aren't from the same factory and they dont use Aquatex, no one else in Angling use's Aquatex because Trakker has the sole license for it in the angling industry, the same material goes under other names in other industries.
I'll ask again, doesn't anyone think it odd that there has been nothing in print from Trakker about Cyprinus sending out counterfeit/inferior product in Trakker branded boxes?
There is a reason why !!!! and only one.
I have a Cyprinus K2 and it's a decent bivvy/ brolly for the money.
In terms of the fact it might be made in the same factory as Trakker/Aqua,it probably is. I work in the food industry and we make products for Waitrose, Tesco on the same line as products for Aldi with very much the same recipe.
It happens in every manufacturing industry so why think fishing would be different?
In terms of the fact it might be made in the same factory as Trakker/Aqua,it probably is. I work in the food industry and we make products for Waitrose, Tesco on the same line as products for Aldi with very much the same recipe.
It happens in every manufacturing industry so why think fishing would be different?
In reply to Post #22
That's a bold statement considering they actually emailed me telling me they share the production costs. So you are saying they lied to me? and you know different. I'm working this weekend but when I get a minute I will post up the entire conversation
As regards quality,I personally think like all manufacturers there's gonna be good and bad in all ranges. I have owned Union Jack Aqua in the past and it was streets ahead of their current output. I currently own two cyprinus shelters and a tempest. I wouldn't say there's a great deal of quality difference in what I own. The tempest is probably a bit better overall but cost more than double the others.
But here's the thing, cyprinus isn't trying to be a premium brand, it's not aimed at guys who fish £1000 a year syndicates and do 100 nights a year. It for people like my mate who has just done his first ever nights fishing as he's looking to take up a new hobby as he approaches retirement. There's no way he's gonna buy a trakker or aqua shelter for nearly a grand, but he will spend cyprinus amounts of money for the few times he's gonna go.
With regards to Aquatex, that is owned and produced by Sylkay Textiles. It's a brand name for a fabric which is simply an outer fabric layer with a plastic membrane bonded too it. As far as I'm aware there's nothing particularly unique about it. So yes Trakker/Aqua May well license that particular fabric from that particular manufacturer but that doesn't actually mean that all the other bonded fabrics used by anyone else aren't just as good, it just means they aren't made by Sylkay. These Boned materials aren't even unique to tent manufacturers, it's used in outdoor clothing for instance
That's a bold statement considering they actually emailed me telling me they share the production costs. So you are saying they lied to me? and you know different. I'm working this weekend but when I get a minute I will post up the entire conversation
As regards quality,I personally think like all manufacturers there's gonna be good and bad in all ranges. I have owned Union Jack Aqua in the past and it was streets ahead of their current output. I currently own two cyprinus shelters and a tempest. I wouldn't say there's a great deal of quality difference in what I own. The tempest is probably a bit better overall but cost more than double the others.
But here's the thing, cyprinus isn't trying to be a premium brand, it's not aimed at guys who fish £1000 a year syndicates and do 100 nights a year. It for people like my mate who has just done his first ever nights fishing as he's looking to take up a new hobby as he approaches retirement. There's no way he's gonna buy a trakker or aqua shelter for nearly a grand, but he will spend cyprinus amounts of money for the few times he's gonna go.
With regards to Aquatex, that is owned and produced by Sylkay Textiles. It's a brand name for a fabric which is simply an outer fabric layer with a plastic membrane bonded too it. As far as I'm aware there's nothing particularly unique about it. So yes Trakker/Aqua May well license that particular fabric from that particular manufacturer but that doesn't actually mean that all the other bonded fabrics used by anyone else aren't just as good, it just means they aren't made by Sylkay. These Boned materials aren't even unique to tent manufacturers, it's used in outdoor clothing for instance
In reply to Post #22
They aren't from the same factory and they dont use Aquatex, no one else in Angling use's Aquatex because Trakker has the sole license for it in the angling industry, the same material goes under other names in other industries.
I'll ask again, doesn't anyone think it odd that there has been nothing in print from Trakker about Cyprinus sending out counterfeit/inferior product in Trakker branded boxes?
Rubbish, Its the same material just the heavier version.......Odd no as its made in the same factory.......
They aren't from the same factory and they dont use Aquatex, no one else in Angling use's Aquatex because Trakker has the sole license for it in the angling industry, the same material goes under other names in other industries.
I'll ask again, doesn't anyone think it odd that there has been nothing in print from Trakker about Cyprinus sending out counterfeit/inferior product in Trakker branded boxes?
Rubbish, Its the same material just the heavier version.......Odd no as its made in the same factory.......
In reply to Post #23
I bought a Cyprinus Magnetix brolly in their eBay auctions at the start of the year for about £90. Whilst this one seems no longer to be made, the material quality is way in excess of the last brolly I had, which was an original Aqua. If that's anything to go by, I would not in the slightest be concerned about buying any of their bivvies
I bought a Cyprinus Magnetix brolly in their eBay auctions at the start of the year for about £90. Whilst this one seems no longer to be made, the material quality is way in excess of the last brolly I had, which was an original Aqua. If that's anything to go by, I would not in the slightest be concerned about buying any of their bivvies
In reply to Post #26
I've got a cyprinus fast and light and I've just bought an aqua atom plus. Although I've not had them out side by side (because I can't be arsed) I would guess the material on the f&l is slightly thicker.
I've got a cyprinus fast and light and I've just bought an aqua atom plus. Although I've not had them out side by side (because I can't be arsed) I would guess the material on the f&l is slightly thicker.
In reply to Post #25
Must be rejects or cut offs because the quality certainly isn't the same at all
Must be rejects or cut offs because the quality certainly isn't the same at all
In reply to Post #22
Oh dear 😂
Oh dear 😂
In reply to Post #29
Dont you know anything mate?
Dont you know anything mate?
In reply to Post #30
Not as much as you obviously you're a behemoth of knowledge when it comes to anything carp fishing related ✊💦
Not as much as you obviously you're a behemoth of knowledge when it comes to anything carp fishing related ✊💦
In reply to Post #24
PMSL at people being mugged off by Trakker under a different name, thinking they have a bargain .
PMSL at people being mugged off by Trakker under a different name, thinking they have a bargain .
In reply to Post #31
Thanks for the glowing reference mate.
Thanks for the glowing reference mate.
In reply to Post #32
Thats aqua. Lol
Thats aqua. Lol
In reply to Post #34
Sadly them too these days
Sadly them too these days
In reply to Post #35
Couldn't it be Trakker doesn't want their target audience to be aware of Cyprinus Tackle and buy their stuff and that's why they don't talk about Cyprinus?
Couldn't it be Trakker doesn't want their target audience to be aware of Cyprinus Tackle and buy their stuff and that's why they don't talk about Cyprinus?
In reply to Post #32
the Drabble family are directors of the Cipher Group which owns, amongst others, Trakker and Aqua
They do not show up in any way as involved with THE ONLINE AUCTION WAREHOUSE COMPANY LIMITED which is Cyprinus.
That would appear to be a joint venture of British and Chinese judging by the list of Directors.
the Drabble family are directors of the Cipher Group which owns, amongst others, Trakker and Aqua
They do not show up in any way as involved with THE ONLINE AUCTION WAREHOUSE COMPANY LIMITED which is Cyprinus.
That would appear to be a joint venture of British and Chinese judging by the list of Directors.
As promised.
And here's the parcel it turned up in.
In reply to Post #24
This kid Spinbowler thinks he knows EVERYTHING about carp fishing. Puts out statements with very little, if any substance behind them. Just a little keyboard warrior
Every forum needs one for entertainment 
This kid Spinbowler thinks he knows EVERYTHING about carp fishing. Puts out statements with very little, if any substance behind them. Just a little keyboard warrior
Every forum needs one for entertainment
In reply to Post #40
You obviously don't value your 8 fingers and 2 thumbs.
You obviously don't value your 8 fingers and 2 thumbs.
In reply to Post #40
Careful mate,he breaks fingers and thumbs for just playing with his pussy
Careful mate,he breaks fingers and thumbs for just playing with his pussy
In reply to Post #40
I'd say spinbowlers speciality though is the leg break.
I'd say spinbowlers speciality though is the leg break.
In reply to Post #42
What have I missed? I don't understand these last comments
What have I missed? I don't understand these last comments
In reply to Post #44
Thread running in non carp section mate,Tazi asked for some advice for a friend and Spinbowler turns out to be a bit of a hardman
Thread running in non carp section mate,Tazi asked for some advice for a friend and Spinbowler turns out to be a bit of a hardman
I can't even work out who believes what?
The way some posts are worded I think they mean
Cyprinus is Trakker, one and the same. But then the 2nd half of the post contradicts it.
My gut feeling and loking at companies house and knowing how the Drabble guys operate. They are not the same.
Maybe they couldn't stop Cyprinus copying so came to an arrangement?
The way some posts are worded I think they mean
Cyprinus is Trakker, one and the same. But then the 2nd half of the post contradicts it.
My gut feeling and loking at companies house and knowing how the Drabble guys operate. They are not the same.
Maybe they couldn't stop Cyprinus copying so came to an arrangement?
In reply to Post #44
Apparently only works out at £20 for each finger n thumb.
Apparently only works out at £20 for each finger n thumb.
In reply to Post #47
What thread/post number is this?
What thread/post number is this?
In reply to Post #46
I believe it comes down to what's actually patented. For instance you couldn't just patent “fishing bivvy” or “fishing shelter” as that would be too generic and wouldn't get passed. You can only patent a unique feature, in the case of the tempest that would need to be something like the block. You couldn't patent say the fanned out legs as that's been done by the Titan and pioneer. My guess is that cyprinus looked very closely at the patent for the tempest and changed whatever they needed to, to avoid infringement. My guess is Trakker won't be happy but they risk losing a ton of money in legal fees trying to fight that, if it's even possible, and with Chinese directors good luck enforcing against them.
The fast and lights are just an umbrella. I stand to be corrected but I highly doubt there's anything under patent there. Once Trakker finished with the mk1 design, if there's a load of stock in the factory I don't think there's much they can do to stop it being rebadged and sold by cyprinus.
I believe it comes down to what's actually patented. For instance you couldn't just patent “fishing bivvy” or “fishing shelter” as that would be too generic and wouldn't get passed. You can only patent a unique feature, in the case of the tempest that would need to be something like the block. You couldn't patent say the fanned out legs as that's been done by the Titan and pioneer. My guess is that cyprinus looked very closely at the patent for the tempest and changed whatever they needed to, to avoid infringement. My guess is Trakker won't be happy but they risk losing a ton of money in legal fees trying to fight that, if it's even possible, and with Chinese directors good luck enforcing against them.
The fast and lights are just an umbrella. I stand to be corrected but I highly doubt there's anything under patent there. Once Trakker finished with the mk1 design, if there's a load of stock in the factory I don't think there's much they can do to stop it being rebadged and sold by cyprinus.
In reply to Post #40
Some of you lot are so ****ing stupid, do you think Trakker would let someone they have no connection with use their packaging??
Got to 😂 at some of the other posts.
Some of you lot are so ****ing stupid, do you think Trakker would let someone they have no connection with use their packaging??
Got to 😂 at some of the other posts.
In reply to Post #50
Not sure traqua need an outlet specifically for substandard crap.. they handle that admirably on their own
Not sure traqua need an outlet specifically for substandard crap.. they handle that admirably on their own
In reply to Post #50
maybe they don't let them? the factory just uses them if they have surplus? if they are looking to hide that they now have a budget brand wouldn't they be more careful with packaging?
maybe they don't let them? the factory just uses them if they have surplus? if they are looking to hide that they now have a budget brand wouldn't they be more careful with packaging?
In reply to Post #51
lol
lol
In reply to Post #48
£200 for the full set.
On the general discussion board.
£200 for the full set.
On the general discussion board.
In reply to Post #51
In reply to Post #50
Maybe trakker and cyprinus come out the same Chinese factory but neither company own the factory and just have their products made there. Cyprinus maybe a joint venture with Chinese partners.
Maybe trakker and cyprinus come out the same Chinese factory but neither company own the factory and just have their products made there. Cyprinus maybe a joint venture with Chinese partners.
In reply to Post #54
Tazi you're a star, I was laughing as I posted that😂😂
Tazi you're a star, I was laughing as I posted that😂😂
In reply to Post #56
judging by the names of 50% of Directors of the company that owns Cyprinus I would guess thats the case Goose
Good luck to Cypher (Trakker/Aqua) policing a factory in China from Sheffield.
I long for the days of Cash from Trakker. he would have come in. called us all ****s and denied everything.
judging by the names of 50% of Directors of the company that owns Cyprinus I would guess thats the case Goose
Good luck to Cypher (Trakker/Aqua) policing a factory in China from Sheffield.
I long for the days of Cash from Trakker. he would have come in. called us all ****s and denied everything.
In reply to Post #48
Asking for a friend post 24 its in the non carp section
Asking for a friend post 24 its in the non carp section
In reply to Post #50
doubt its anything to do with Trakker or Aqua etc as these shelters are all made in the same Chinese factories and if they have a pile of boxes they can use dont suppose they will want to throw them away ?
doubt its anything to do with Trakker or Aqua etc as these shelters are all made in the same Chinese factories and if they have a pile of boxes they can use dont suppose they will want to throw them away ?
In reply to Post #60
Any compny worth its salt protects its brand, let's say some Nash stuff was made in the same factory and it came out in Trakker packaging, it's no different, it just wouldn't happen.
Any compny worth its salt protects its brand, let's say some Nash stuff was made in the same factory and it came out in Trakker packaging, it's no different, it just wouldn't happen.
In reply to Post #61
I know for a fact Solar bivvy's are made in the same factory as Nash. So it happens with more brands.
I know for a fact Solar bivvy's are made in the same factory as Nash. So it happens with more brands.
In reply to Post #62
What? Solar stuff in Nash packaging?
What? Solar stuff in Nash packaging?
In reply to Post #63
No, just that the Solar bivvy's are made in the same factory as Nash.
No, just that the Solar bivvy's are made in the same factory as Nash.
In reply to Post #61
The resident expert on Chinese manufacturing has spoken might as well lock the thread 🤡
The resident expert on Chinese manufacturing has spoken might as well lock the thread 🤡
In reply to Post #57
Surprisingly despite my claims of being scared, me too.
Surprisingly despite my claims of being scared, me too.
In reply to Post #65
Not the sharpest are you mate 🤡
Let's be honest it's not your fault. How many times have you been to China visiting factories? I've had to do it 3 times in the last 5 years for my company, keep digging you mug.😂👍
Not the sharpest are you mate 🤡
Let's be honest it's not your fault. How many times have you been to China visiting factories? I've had to do it 3 times in the last 5 years for my company, keep digging you mug.😂👍
we need to email Trakker with that stuff from Cyprinus and ask them if they are in cahoots....
In reply to Post #67
What do you manufacture dildos & I bet you're the chief tester too ✊💦
What do you manufacture dildos & I bet you're the chief tester too ✊💦
In reply to Post #69
I'm guessing by that reply you're poorly educated, and feel threatened for some reason?
PM me, let me see if I can help.👍
I'm guessing by that reply you're poorly educated, and feel threatened for some reason?
PM me, let me see if I can help.👍
In reply to Post #70
Threatened by a low iq knuckle dragging halfwit like yourself !! Oh you really are shoulder deep in your own Anus ✊💦
Threatened by a low iq knuckle dragging halfwit like yourself !! Oh you really are shoulder deep in your own Anus ✊💦
In reply to Post #71
I think you'll find it's the other way round chap😂 keep on digging, the world needs ditch diggers too.😂😂👍
I think you'll find it's the other way round chap😂 keep on digging, the world needs ditch diggers too.😂😂👍
The Cyprinus bivvies were Made in the same factory as Trakker / Aqua, Trakqua have now moved to another Chinese supplier because of the original Chinese company setting up Cyprinus and becoming so popular in the UK......they knew it would be successful because of the amount of units they were shifting to Trakker and Aqua.....quite simple really..... 
In reply to Post #72
Awww never mind we all realise what a self opinionated Tosser you are 😉
Awww never mind we all realise what a self opinionated Tosser you are 😉
In reply to Post #74
I didn't realise how brittle you were🤔
I didn't realise how brittle you were🤔
In reply to Post #75
Brittle like those Chinese dildos you test 😉
Brittle like those Chinese dildos you test 😉
In reply to Post #76
I definitely had you down as being older than 12 mate. Keep digging 😂😂
I definitely had you down as being older than 12 mate. Keep digging 😂😂
In reply to Post #77
You got a thing about digging is that a gay thing like teabagging ?
You got a thing about digging is that a gay thing like teabagging ?
In reply to Post #78
You tell me 😉
You tell me 😉
Well my Typhoon skull cap turned up in a Fox Ultra 60 infill panel box.....so work that one out... 
In reply to Post #80
Lol. Genuinely?
Lol. Genuinely?
In reply to Post #81
What's the difference between storm and typhoon? I'm 6'4 need something quick easy to set up
What's the difference between storm and typhoon? I'm 6'4 need something quick easy to set up
In reply to Post #82
The typhoon has the inner vapour shield and is larger. I think the storm is more like a tempest brolly.
The typhoon has the inner vapour shield and is larger. I think the storm is more like a tempest brolly.
In reply to Post #83
£480 with skull cap is good value
A hell of a lot cheaper than trakker who's build quality is not the best to say the least i think I'm gonna orfer myself a typhoon with skull cap
£480 with skull cap is good value
A hell of a lot cheaper than trakker who's build quality is not the best to say the least i think I'm gonna orfer myself a typhoon with skull cap
In reply to Post #81
100%!
100%!
In reply to Post #82
Typhoon is low....I'm 6.0 and struggled to get into my mates last weekend...
Typhoon is low....I'm 6.0 and struggled to get into my mates last weekend...
In reply to Post #73
Another supplier maybe but that supplier is probably using the same factory as trakker, aqua, cyprinus, fox, nash, solar etc, etc. Chinese factory's generally are huge with huge capacity manufacturing for multiple clients and brands.
Another supplier maybe but that supplier is probably using the same factory as trakker, aqua, cyprinus, fox, nash, solar etc, etc. Chinese factory's generally are huge with huge capacity manufacturing for multiple clients and brands.
In reply to Post #87
Some are massive and massively confusing.
Sometimes it would appear that a product is manufactured by one company under one roof but no!! Taking bivvies as an example you could have one company doing the fabric part of the product but a totally different company doing the metal work, all under the same roof and sometimes in the same room.
If you used an agent to work on your behalf you'd never know, your one invoice could be made up from a number of different entities.
This makes getting refunds difficult and why half the time they don't even want rejects back.
Some are massive and massively confusing.
Sometimes it would appear that a product is manufactured by one company under one roof but no!! Taking bivvies as an example you could have one company doing the fabric part of the product but a totally different company doing the metal work, all under the same roof and sometimes in the same room.
If you used an agent to work on your behalf you'd never know, your one invoice could be made up from a number of different entities.
This makes getting refunds difficult and why half the time they don't even want rejects back.
I have a DPM compact armo type and wrap, cracking bit of kit
So out of interest, do we think Cyprinus are the actual manufacturer or another middle man offering the same tents as the big boys at a cut price cost?
So out of interest, do we think Cyprinus are the actual manufacturer or another middle man offering the same tents as the big boys at a cut price cost?
In reply to Post #82
Typhoon = 20,000 HH, Aluminium Block & Vapour shield included
Storm = 10,000 HH, Composite Block
Other than that, I believe they are identical
Typhoon = 20,000 HH, Aluminium Block & Vapour shield included
Storm = 10,000 HH, Composite Block
Other than that, I believe they are identical
In reply to Post #86
I'm 6'3 ? Maybe go for the bigger one ? I just need something for quick over nighters
I'm 6'3 ? Maybe go for the bigger one ? I just need something for quick over nighters
In reply to Post #91
Go for the MH version. 152cm height from the entrance. Does make a bit of difference getting in and out.
Go for the MH version. 152cm height from the entrance. Does make a bit of difference getting in and out.
In reply to Post #89
My guess would be cyprinus are another middle man company that manufacture nothing, agree with what spinbowler has said re the factories.
My guess would be cyprinus are another middle man company that manufacture nothing, agree with what spinbowler has said re the factories.
In reply to Post #79
**** me you two give it up
Read half of these threads and most have no relevance to the op, just bitching at each other
**** me you two give it up
Read half of these threads and most have no relevance to the op, just bitching at each other
In reply to Post #94
Proper flirting 😂😂
Proper flirting 😂😂
In reply to Post #92
I have a 2 man cayman I use for the mrs or kids come but mostly I'm doing quick over nights just want something for that instead of throwing thr 2 man up every week
I have a 2 man cayman I use for the mrs or kids come but mostly I'm doing quick over nights just want something for that instead of throwing thr 2 man up every week
In reply to Post #96
Typhoon HD with Skull Cap is £650 it's a lot for a brand like that tbh
Typhoon HD with Skull Cap is £650 it's a lot for a brand like that tbh
In reply to Post #97
Just get the tempest mate, you could even get one of the cheaper tempests for less than that bud
Just get the tempest mate, you could even get one of the cheaper tempests for less than that bud
In reply to Post #98
These new tempests I don't know what's what lol think I'll stick with my cayman cheap and cheerful
These new tempests I don't know what's what lol think I'll stick with my cayman cheap and cheerful
In reply to Post #59
Mustn't forget the chap that with ones head he'd like to make crazy paving.
Mustn't forget the chap that with ones head he'd like to make crazy paving.
In reply to Post #93
I reckon so 
I reckon so
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