Hi,
Just getting back into things after a long break.
The club waters I will be fishing range from small 1-2 acre pools to large pits with a range of fish sizes and clear/Weedy waters.
Can't decide if I should get a set of 10ft 2.75tc rods for the small waters and a set of long range rods for the bigger stuff.
Clearly I will have to drop the budget if buying two sets of rods and reels vs one set of 12ft 3.5's.
What would you all suggest?
Thanks
Just getting back into things after a long break.
The club waters I will be fishing range from small 1-2 acre pools to large pits with a range of fish sizes and clear/Weedy waters.
Can't decide if I should get a set of 10ft 2.75tc rods for the small waters and a set of long range rods for the bigger stuff.
Clearly I will have to drop the budget if buying two sets of rods and reels vs one set of 12ft 3.5's.
What would you all suggest?
Thanks
In reply to Post #1
12FT rods do long range work and short work.
9/10ft rods will do close work but limit your long range work.
buy decent 12ft rods and leave the smaller rods alone in my opinion.
12FT rods do long range work and short work.
9/10ft rods will do close work but limit your long range work.
buy decent 12ft rods and leave the smaller rods alone in my opinion.
In reply to Post #1
For me, a set of the best 12ft 3.25tc. Will do everything well.
For me, a set of the best 12ft 3.25tc. Will do everything well.
In reply to Post #2
After 34 years carp fishing with 12/13ft, I bought myself a new 10ft set last week, (Nash dwarf 10ft 3.25lb 2020 model), on the first testing sesion I threw 96 meters (104 yards) there are many who don't even make it with a 12ft (Think with a little more practice and thinner main line 120 yards will be possible for me)
So if you are good at casting a 10ft is no problem for long casts + you enjoy the extra benefits that a 10ft brings
After 34 years carp fishing with 12/13ft, I bought myself a new 10ft set last week, (Nash dwarf 10ft 3.25lb 2020 model), on the first testing sesion I threw 96 meters (104 yards) there are many who don't even make it with a 12ft (Think with a little more practice and thinner main line 120 yards will be possible for me)
So if you are good at casting a 10ft is no problem for long casts + you enjoy the extra benefits that a 10ft brings
In reply to Post #4
They may well be 9.5 foot soon mate.
The tips do break. At random times.
They may well be 9.5 foot soon mate.
The tips do break. At random times.
Is go cheap on the 10fts something like wychwood fltr 10ft 2.25lb and then spend the rest on 12 footers... The wychwood can be had for £40 per rod... Don't let the 'floater' description put you off... I think several people on here use them as their main rods
In reply to Post #5
Read a lot that have broken a tip, also read many that are satisfied with it and do not have a broken tip yet
2020 model should be improved and have 2-year warranty + next year I will go for a set of 10ft hand build
I also always wonder how skilled you are with throwing when you break a rod tip
Read a lot that have broken a tip, also read many that are satisfied with it and do not have a broken tip yet
2020 model should be improved and have 2-year warranty + next year I will go for a set of 10ft hand build
I also always wonder how skilled you are with throwing when you break a rod tip
In reply to Post #7
Tips don't break in the top couple of inches because of casting, and there was just someone posted recently one dwarf snapped at the handle... That was on the cast though
Tips don't break in the top couple of inches because of casting, and there was just someone posted recently one dwarf snapped at the handle... That was on the cast though
In reply to Post #7
I don't know about skill. Maybe you are way more skillful than those of us that
Have had Nash tips break.
However. My first broke on retrieving a 1
Oz lead. And the 2nd when I pulled a bit of line
Through to tackle up.
And in 40 years of angling I've only ever had two rods break on me. Both Dwarf, in the last 3 years.
I don't know about skill. Maybe you are way more skillful than those of us that
Have had Nash tips break.
However. My first broke on retrieving a 1
Oz lead. And the 2nd when I pulled a bit of line
Through to tackle up.
And in 40 years of angling I've only ever had two rods break on me. Both Dwarf, in the last 3 years.
In reply to Post #9
2020 model?
2020 model?
In reply to Post #1
Depends if you need the shorter rods to fish restricted swims.
I use cheap 8 or 10 ft rods when fishing my usual small lake and I regularly out fish the guys with 3 expensive 13 ft + big pits, purely because I can get into the tighter more productive swims.
Best to buy what would work best to cover each lake.
Depends if you need the shorter rods to fish restricted swims.
I use cheap 8 or 10 ft rods when fishing my usual small lake and I regularly out fish the guys with 3 expensive 13 ft + big pits, purely because I can get into the tighter more productive swims.
Best to buy what would work best to cover each lake.
In reply to Post #3
Sorry meant to say "the best you can afford" in post 3
Sorry meant to say "the best you can afford" in post 3
In reply to Post #10
One of them yes.
One of them yes.
In reply to Post #3
Totally agree. In my opinion short rods make perfect sense if you're dropping a lead of a boat, otherwise they're just a gimmick. That fishing in a confined swim argument? Well, how many confined swims do you come across in a modern fishery?
Totally agree. In my opinion short rods make perfect sense if you're dropping a lead of a boat, otherwise they're just a gimmick. That fishing in a confined swim argument? Well, how many confined swims do you come across in a modern fishery?
In reply to Post #14
If by modern you mean a sterile, commercial fishery then I agree probably none.
More natural lakes can be a different story however.
The best two swims on one lake I fish are tricky to fish effectively with 10 ft rods let alone 12s.
Several others are fishable with 12s but much easier with 10s. All normally more productive than the open water swims.
If by modern you mean a sterile, commercial fishery then I agree probably none.
More natural lakes can be a different story however.
The best two swims on one lake I fish are tricky to fish effectively with 10 ft rods let alone 12s.
Several others are fishable with 12s but much easier with 10s. All normally more productive than the open water swims.
In reply to Post #14
not everyone fishes nice dug out pegs with stone chipped paths, fake grass or decked out swims
not everyone fishes nice dug out pegs with stone chipped paths, fake grass or decked out swims
In reply to Post #16
Too right
In fact my two club waters are natural and overgrown.
But with a combination of side casting, or a gap in the overhang or standing on a log or crouching down etc
Ive never avoided a swim just because im using my 12 foot rods.
I do have two little snapped tip Dwarf rods for when cycling, I use them in the same places that
I use my 12 footers. I also have 13 and even a 15 foot float rod lol
Too right
In fact my two club waters are natural and overgrown.
But with a combination of side casting, or a gap in the overhang or standing on a log or crouching down etc
Ive never avoided a swim just because im using my 12 foot rods.
I do have two little snapped tip Dwarf rods for when cycling, I use them in the same places that
I use my 12 footers. I also have 13 and even a 15 foot float rod lol
In reply to Post #14
I fished a "modern" fishery in France last year.
The swim I ended up in, and had my best results from would have been nigh on impossible to fish with 12 footers, bearing in mind the overhanging branches.
Yep, I could have knelt down to cast, no problem.
But at my age, getting down isn't the problem, it's getting back up again.
I fished a "modern" fishery in France last year.
The swim I ended up in, and had my best results from would have been nigh on impossible to fish with 12 footers, bearing in mind the overhanging branches.
Yep, I could have knelt down to cast, no problem.
But at my age, getting down isn't the problem, it's getting back up again.
In reply to Post #18
Lol
Lol
In reply to Post #16
last night
using my ridiculously long 12 foot rods. and my massive wide stainless trident pod
with the butt rings on the near side of the alarm
last night
using my ridiculously long 12 foot rods. and my massive wide stainless trident pod
with the butt rings on the near side of the alarm
Just back from a day session, how people can break their dwarf rod i don't understand, i threw them hard today and was able to hit 113 yard.
Many may have a bad production or there was something wrong with the casting technique I don't know, but I do know I can throw mine very hard without losing confidence
But i gonne sell them
Prefer 12ft rods or maby anhoter 10ft but with a longer hande, the short handle on the Dwarfs feels a bit childish to me.
Many may have a bad production or there was something wrong with the casting technique I don't know, but I do know I can throw mine very hard without losing confidence
But i gonne sell them
Prefer 12ft rods or maby anhoter 10ft but with a longer hande, the short handle on the Dwarfs feels a bit childish to me.
In reply to Post #21
I agree with the childish bit. Mine were bought for my kid when he was 10 .
Once again mate, most people that I have read about had the tips break when NOT casting.
I agree with the childish bit. Mine were bought for my kid when he was 10 .
Once again mate, most people that I have read about had the tips break when NOT casting.
Why would anyone buy rod's from Nash??
In reply to Post #23
Ya why buythem there cheap junk
Ya why buythem there cheap junk
In reply to Post #22
Did they step on it?
Did they step on it?
In reply to Post #25
Post number 9 mate.
Post number 9 mate.
In reply to Post #21
I've snapped 4 tips sections of the 10ft 3lb dwarfs now and they have now gone into retirement and replaced with some other rods. I've only done 4 as i got tip sections for pretty much nothing...now i'm out of them they can go!
All 5 were done when retrieving rods from distance in weed on massive french reservoirs.
When getting to the leader not which is full of weed and trying to free that up, the rod pulls at a weird angle and 'bang' everytime it has done it.
Now....My mate has sonik and another one the pace compacts and they have exactly the same issue as me with the weed and leader knots but no issues with rods snapping...The scope's 'allegedly' also have the same issue but i haven;t seen this and wont pay that money to test it!
I've got several photos to show how easy the dwarfs snap....good general rod, crap in a boat for fishing in weed.
PS: i got the dwarfs at trade and the tip sections for near on nothing so i'm not bothered, just a warning, if you want to use them for that type of fishing... They wont last.
Edit - 4 i've done as i still have a spare...my mistake.
I've snapped 4 tips sections of the 10ft 3lb dwarfs now and they have now gone into retirement and replaced with some other rods. I've only done 4 as i got tip sections for pretty much nothing...now i'm out of them they can go!
All 5 were done when retrieving rods from distance in weed on massive french reservoirs.
When getting to the leader not which is full of weed and trying to free that up, the rod pulls at a weird angle and 'bang' everytime it has done it.
Now....My mate has sonik and another one the pace compacts and they have exactly the same issue as me with the weed and leader knots but no issues with rods snapping...The scope's 'allegedly' also have the same issue but i haven;t seen this and wont pay that money to test it!
I've got several photos to show how easy the dwarfs snap....good general rod, crap in a boat for fishing in weed.
PS: i got the dwarfs at trade and the tip sections for near on nothing so i'm not bothered, just a warning, if you want to use them for that type of fishing... They wont last.
Edit - 4 i've done as i still have a spare...my mistake.
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