Hello
Yesterday I made around 15 booms (7.5inch) i'm 100% sure i did every step right
6mm krimps with 25lb Boom fluocarbon, they all snapped when I put pressure on them with the knot puller, are they really that crappy or do I have a bad batch?
Yesterday I made around 15 booms (7.5inch) i'm 100% sure i did every step right
6mm krimps with 25lb Boom fluocarbon, they all snapped when I put pressure on them with the knot puller, are they really that crappy or do I have a bad batch?
In reply to Post #1
You can't be doing it right I don't think mate. Where are they snapping? Did you crimp loops into them?
You can't be doing it right I don't think mate. Where are they snapping? Did you crimp loops into them?
In reply to Post #2
Loop on both sides
Just did another test, it broke at 19Lb, on one side the krimp broke off, the fluorocarbon is still completely but curled
Loop on both sides
Just did another test, it broke at 19Lb, on one side the krimp broke off, the fluorocarbon is still completely but curled
sounds like error, (with all due respect) or a dodgy batch. Been using Boom and Krimps for years, only ever had one problem and that was slippage due to me not quite tightening the krimp enough.
Lol just did a test with a ready made boom, it snapped at 16lb on the loop...
In reply to Post #5
Not being funny
but you tie it onto your mainline on a rod attach it to a tree and see if you can break it
Not being funny
but you tie it onto your mainline on a rod attach it to a tree and see if you can break it
In reply to Post #6
I'm presuming one end is attached to his scales and the other to the puller and he sees how far the scales go before it snaps....
I'm presuming one end is attached to his scales and the other to the puller and he sees how far the scales go before it snaps....
In reply to Post #7
True
I know you dont need +10 lb to land a fish but i'm surprised how low Korda boom breaking point is.
True
I know you dont need +10 lb to land a fish but i'm surprised how low Korda boom breaking point is.
It is a good point Gerry makes though, pulling as you are doing is not the same comparison as a fishing situation where you have the stretch of the mono and the cushion of the rod. True a breaking strain should be exactly that but I have been using Boom for as long as it has been out and never had a link snap...
In reply to Post #1
I've not used the Boom material but have been krimping to Hybrid Stiff for the last few years and have never had a single hooklink snap. Why not test both materials and compare the two? I'd be interested to hear your results.
I've not used the Boom material but have been krimping to Hybrid Stiff for the last few years and have never had a single hooklink snap. Why not test both materials and compare the two? I'd be interested to hear your results.
In reply to Post #1
You are never going to put 16 - 19lb of pressure on a fish hook hold in water with rod bent and mainline stretch.
You are never going to put 16 - 19lb of pressure on a fish hook hold in water with rod bent and mainline stretch.
In reply to Post #10
. . .always thought fluorocarbon wasn't suitable for crimping . .?
. . .always thought fluorocarbon wasn't suitable for crimping . .?
In reply to Post #12
Hybrid stiff is not a fluorocarbon,its a coated braid
Hybrid stiff is not a fluorocarbon,its a coated braid
In reply to Post #13
. . the OP stated he was using Fluro . . ?
. . the OP stated he was using Fluro . . ?
In reply to Post #14
Boom is not fluoro either though,it threw me as you replied to post 10 not the op
Boom is not fluoro either though,it threw me as you replied to post 10 not the op
In reply to Post #15
EH ? YES it is mate
EH ? YES it is mate
In reply to Post #16
I stand corrected,why does it say not to use crimps with fluorocarbon if boom is a fluoro.I have been using boom and crimps and had no issues at all though
I stand corrected,why does it say not to use crimps with fluorocarbon if boom is a fluoro.I have been using boom and crimps and had no issues at all though
If you have lost confidence in it and want a stiff hook link they you could check out ridge monkey stiff coated braid in 35lb. It'll need a steam to make it straight but when it's steamed it's fabulous.
The booms from Gemini are also v v good.
https://www.geminicarptackle.com/tidy-booms-4-c.asp
The booms from Gemini are also v v good.
https://www.geminicarptackle.com/tidy-booms-4-c.asp
In reply to Post #20
Interesting 👍
Interesting 👍
I gonne give Gemini a try not that 19lb breakpoint on Korda boom is bad but my own hand made rigs/loops are stronger that what Korda sells...
gardener do a 60lb Flouro Carbon called slinky for 100m at £8.50 it's superb and I rate it highly that I've not used the Korda boom for a few years now. They do lower breaking strain lines as well I just wanted a particularly stiff boom for the Ronnie rig.
Well worth checking out.
Well worth checking out.
I've been crimping Korda iq2 in 20lb with no issues. If you can't pull it apart with 2 pulla tools it will never go when playing a fish.
In reply to Post #24
That's a massive help thanks
That's a massive help thanks
In reply to Post #24
The thing is, I can pull it apart with 2 pulla tools, even the Ready-Tied Booms.
The thing is, I can pull it apart with 2 pulla tools, even the Ready-Tied Booms.
In reply to Post #24
In 25lb
In 25lb
In reply to Post #26
But you're never gonna be able to apply that sort of pressure through a rod and mono.
But you're never gonna be able to apply that sort of pressure through a rod and mono.
In reply to Post #27
Do they make iq2 in 25lb?.
Do they make iq2 in 25lb?.
In reply to Post #28
I know, but they advertise/sell it as: stronger than knotted
If i buy 25lb Korda booms and the snap at 16 lb with 2 pullers then there is something wrong
I know, but they advertise/sell it as: stronger than knotted
If i buy 25lb Korda booms and the snap at 16 lb with 2 pullers then there is something wrong
In reply to Post #30
In reply to Post #31
For stiff booms my preference is 35lb Frog Skin Flouro.
I tie a perfect loop knot on either end, a knot I found challenging to tie when first attempted, but worth the effort.
I've never, I'll repeat that, never, had one fail, landing fish over 50lb.
Personally I have no faith in crimps. Even on Pike traces, which prefer to twist.
For stiff booms my preference is 35lb Frog Skin Flouro.
I tie a perfect loop knot on either end, a knot I found challenging to tie when first attempted, but worth the effort.
I've never, I'll repeat that, never, had one fail, landing fish over 50lb.
Personally I have no faith in crimps. Even on Pike traces, which prefer to twist.
In reply to Post #30
Youd be surprised how mush pressure you put on a short length of material between 2 pullers
Where are you getting 16lb from?
And what does it break at knotted?
Youd be surprised how mush pressure you put on a short length of material between 2 pullers
Where are you getting 16lb from?
And what does it break at knotted?
In reply to Post #26
To be honest mate I can destroy anything between 2 pulla type tools😂😂 You really can put some pressure on👍
To be honest mate I can destroy anything between 2 pulla type tools😂😂 You really can put some pressure on👍
Have fished last year with only Korda booms and loops no problem at all, not a single snapped, so very satisfied with Korda's booms/loops.
Also only got 1 misser (my own fault) the hooking with Korda loops is top
Also only got 1 misser (my own fault) the hooking with Korda loops is top
In reply to Post #34
Yeah I agree, if you want to break it, you will.
I've been crimping tuff for donkeys years, but then I do a lot of pike fishing. The most common reason for a connection failure is user error. Do it right and it is a very reliable way of forming a connection with various materials. That starts with using the right crimps and crimping tool.
Boom? I've previously crimped hard monos, which are very similar. Trick is to not pull the loop in too tight and then blob the tag end, just in case there is any slip. I've had a few prolonged fights with large fish and on inspection, the tag end has occasionally been shown to have pulled up to the crimp - if I'd just left it unchecked, lost fish I imagine. So far then, using boom, I've had one failure, which was actually where I clipped a branch behind me as I gave it the beans on a cast. Actual fishing wise, no problem at all. I tend to use a boom hooklink with a spinner rig or hinge rig - lovely neat et-up, no tangles, good hook up rates.
Yeah I agree, if you want to break it, you will.
I've been crimping tuff for donkeys years, but then I do a lot of pike fishing. The most common reason for a connection failure is user error. Do it right and it is a very reliable way of forming a connection with various materials. That starts with using the right crimps and crimping tool.
Boom? I've previously crimped hard monos, which are very similar. Trick is to not pull the loop in too tight and then blob the tag end, just in case there is any slip. I've had a few prolonged fights with large fish and on inspection, the tag end has occasionally been shown to have pulled up to the crimp - if I'd just left it unchecked, lost fish I imagine. So far then, using boom, I've had one failure, which was actually where I clipped a branch behind me as I gave it the beans on a cast. Actual fishing wise, no problem at all. I tend to use a boom hooklink with a spinner rig or hinge rig - lovely neat et-up, no tangles, good hook up rates.
In reply to Post #1
I lost a good fish last summer when the boom material snapped at the crimp, got loads of good advice on here but had no confidence in them after that,
I reverted to a figure of 8 knot which seems very strong and with a bit of practice you can easily make the loops as small as you need.
I lost a good fish last summer when the boom material snapped at the crimp, got loads of good advice on here but had no confidence in them after that,
I reverted to a figure of 8 knot which seems very strong and with a bit of practice you can easily make the loops as small as you need.
In reply to Post #1
You're pulling far harder than any fishing scenario is going to provide, I wouldn't worry about it, I tend to jerk pull test them if it's going to fail then that's how you'll know
You're pulling far harder than any fishing scenario is going to provide, I wouldn't worry about it, I tend to jerk pull test them if it's going to fail then that's how you'll know
With boom or similar, you need to do a couple of things to get the best out of it, - pre stretch it when first crimped, this does two things takes out all pre stretch that a fish may cause, then blob the tag ends. You won't get stronger than this. This will make it sit better, make it stronger and make sure that it won't slip.
In reply to Post #37
I've never had the crimps go on the boom, and when testing you really do need to pull it unrealistically hard to make anything happen. Just be precise when crimping, making sure the barrel is in the pliers correctly and squeezing down as hard as you can. I use small crimps in the large plier hole.Booms and crimps I Love em! and 15lb version out in spring.
I've never had the crimps go on the boom, and when testing you really do need to pull it unrealistically hard to make anything happen. Just be precise when crimping, making sure the barrel is in the pliers correctly and squeezing down as hard as you can. I use small crimps in the large plier hole.Booms and crimps I Love em! and 15lb version out in spring.
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