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Tackle still being stolen bankside? (50 posts / 5,571 views)
Nigel18
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Post #1 13 Jun 2020 17:43
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I know there was a load of thefts happening around the Cotswold waterpark and oxford area at some point a few years a go, is this still happening?

It seemed like a weekly occurrence at one point but i'm hoping things have improved since.



phil090781
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Post #2 13 Jun 2020 20:51
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No idea, but what gear have you got and where do you fish?
mal mal
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Post #3 13 Jun 2020 20:55
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yonny yonny
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Post #4 13 Jun 2020 22:44
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devon157
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Post #5 14 Jun 2020 16:44
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Thats why I always have a machete in my armoury when fishing..
But obviously its used for chopping back branches etc
tazi tazi
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Post #6 14 Jun 2020 17:56
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Korda or Nash?.
dickweed dickweed
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Post #7 14 Jun 2020 18:08
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Deep heat spray for ones bad shoulder is also worth having handy.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #8 14 Jun 2020 18:27
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Let's be honest if 5 blokes turn up in your swim you can wave a machete as much as you like, they'll still take your gear and leave you half dead
Goose Goose
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Post #9 14 Jun 2020 19:22
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Yeah, your mobile is better, take as many pictures as possible before they get it then tell them they are automatically backed up to the cloud.
Rolandcarp
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Post #10 14 Jun 2020 20:24
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My bivvy is now big enough that I can fit all my gear, including barrow and rod holdall, comfortably in the bivvy at night.

Saying that I put my bait bucket in a swim to reserve the swim last year and by the time I got back with my gear it had gone!
Ikeman Ikeman
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Post #11 14 Jun 2020 20:49
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Happened at Farlows today too apparently!
Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant...
Site deviant... Post #12 14 Jun 2020 22:30
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That's just you politely stacking it up in one pile to make it less of an effort for them
devon157
Posts: 1,144
Post #13 14 Jun 2020 22:39
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Maybe so or not but I'd rather get done over trying at least to protect my gear instead of doing **** all about it
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #14 14 Jun 2020 22:44
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Gear can be replaced,you can't.If they want it let them have it and go home safely to your family
devon157
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Post #15 14 Jun 2020 22:46
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Sadly could not just stand there. Just not me braders
mrjcarter mrjcarter
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Post #16 15 Jun 2020 01:25
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Ild pick the pod up and throw the lot in..I'll dive in and find it in the morning
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #17 15 Jun 2020 05:44
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Exactly 👍🏻 These days with knifes and acid it's not the same. People give it the big one but the reality is very different at the time
Catchfish Catchfish
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Post #18 15 Jun 2020 06:12
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I think about this quite a lot, like what would i do.

If you think about it, you're gonna get one maybe 2 good swings before they take the weapon off of you and fill you in. All it takes is for of them to come behind you and hit you while you're swinging it and it's game over lol.

Say you do win, you cut them all up with a machete. Then what? You're going straight to prison. Defending tackle or not you've just used a weapon in a public place.

It's not worth the trouble, gear can be replaced, your time in prison or your life can't be.


devon157
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Post #19 15 Jun 2020 06:56
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I'm not giving it the big one at all and yes probably would get my head smashed up but I'd still not just be standing there watching my gear taken
harveyboy
Posts: 1,540
Post #20 15 Jun 2020 07:47
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Silly comment to make though saying you have a machete. Personally I dont think many of us know what we would do, I'm a very placid person who has only ever lost it fully 3 or 4 times in my life, but if the fuse is ignited I'd have a go regardless of size or numbers.I hope I would be able to notice something, tattoo vehicle accent just something.
GGDT GGDT
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Post #21 15 Jun 2020 08:11
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Still goes on, there have been thefts ona few Lea Valley waters already this season

devon157
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Post #22 15 Jun 2020 08:28
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Hows that a silly comment then ?
harveyboy
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Post #23 15 Jun 2020 10:43
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You don't think it is, I do. Different opinions that's all, I'm certainly not going to explain myself.
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #24 15 Jun 2020 12:35
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It's a silly comment because your admitting carrying an illegal weapon. If you wanna have a go at 5 blokes nicking your gear go for it, they may not just smash you up they may stab you. Or club you round the head and that's you dead. I'm very hot headed but based on some of the robberies that happened at my local I would just let em take it. At my local they operated in a group of three, two to do the nicking one lurking at the side with a pipe, someone got assaulted pretty badly when he went to get out of the bivvy it's just not worth it mate
tazi tazi
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Post #25 15 Jun 2020 13:00
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How about a ‘HANDS OFF' sign to match........

Edit - personally speaking if you've the 3@115 to do it then I wouldn't blame you as thieving scum need be taught a lesson. However, I'm more of a pick axe ‘dental technician extractor' handle man myself.
devon157
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Post #26 15 Jun 2020 13:05
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devon157
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Post #27 15 Jun 2020 13:10
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So your having a cup of tea in your own house and some scum walks in and starts taking your stuff, don't tell me you would do nowt about it ? ?
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #28 15 Jun 2020 13:43
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In a house there aren't the blindspots like getting out of a bivvy in a crouched position your immediately at a disadvantage in my house it would be very hard for someone to hide to surprise me
devon157
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Post #29 15 Jun 2020 14:20
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jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #30 15 Jun 2020 14:39
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You wanna be a big man and give it the big un on here fine but don't - talk about taking a weapon that can kill or get uppity when people call it out as macho nonsense
devon157
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Post #31 15 Jun 2020 14:59
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1st up mate I haven't been giving it the big un on here at all
Secondly I'm not gonna be spineless and let some scumbag take anything that belongs to me.
Id rather have my head kicked protecting what ever i own in life than being spineless .
It is what it is bud
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #32 15 Jun 2020 15:19
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Spineless 😂😂😂 I bet you would actually pull your sleeping bag up and ignore it keyboard warrior nothing more
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #33 15 Jun 2020 15:22
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And saying you will carry a machete is giving it the big un
devon157
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Post #34 15 Jun 2020 15:22
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Ah mate what a comedian
yonny yonny
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Post #35 15 Jun 2020 15:24
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They have a point though mate. What exactly would you do with a machete that wont put you in prison for 20 years?

I actually agree with you that I'd not let someone take my gear, but a machete??
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #36 15 Jun 2020 15:26
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Time to move on you two..
devon157
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Post #37 15 Jun 2020 15:34
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Anyway I'm not gonna comment on this topic anymore I can see some of you little snow flakes getting a little agitated .
If you guys wanna let anybody take what is rightfully yours so be it, thats your choice in life guy's.
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Anyway I'm off to speak to tony Martin about home security systems.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #38 15 Jun 2020 15:40
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Snow flakes. 😂 alright grant Mitchell
I wasn't for one minute saying I'd just let them take my gear but there's ways of saying stuff with making your self sound like a your giving it the big I am. l. That's me done on the matter. 👍🏻
AideyKaye
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Post #39 15 Jun 2020 16:01
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A machete is a bit much, but would you REALLY go to prison for protecting yourself against a thief with an every day item that we use whilst angling?

I think since the mobile chavvy got stabbed with a screwdriver in Hither Green a few years ago, the justice system is starting to take note of the fight or flight mechanism we all have. It's human nature. You either stand there shaking like a leaf, you run, or you start swinging. That is biology.

I would never apologise for protecting myself, my family or my property. In reality? My kids faces would be in the back of my mind, and I'd want to make it back home to see them.
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #40 15 Jun 2020 16:46
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A machete can easily chop someone's arm off, add in someone who doesn't know what they are doing and it's a recipe for a manslaughter charge, defending yourself at home with deadly force is a big enough grey area let alone when out in public
Spod Spod
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Post #41 15 Jun 2020 17:10
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Truth is none of us know how we would react until it actually happened and hopefully none of us ever have to experience it. It's all well and good saying that you would have a swing or just let them take it but adrenaline and fear can make you behave completely differently to how you think you will....

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tazi tazi
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Post #42 15 Jun 2020 17:17
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Good on him I say, slice their fcuking sacks off, or p155flaps.
Jamesvg Jamesvg
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Post #43 15 Jun 2020 18:00
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This turned intoa rather bizzare thread, my 2 pence on the act of taking machete's fishing;

I don't think you'd stand much of a chance of blagging a machete as a bit of fishing kit - don't know of anyone trekking through a rainforest to their swim? So would have thought brandishing one would be an instant offensive weapon in public charge before you start swinging it in anger.

Also a pretty pants weapon in close quarters fight in the dark, yhe only thing it would have going for it is the fear factor. If there were more than one attackers you'd be more likely to be the one being hacked with it.
MrFrosty
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Post #44 15 Jun 2020 19:06
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I'd love to say I'd charge out protect my gear for all it's worth, be interesting to see if the 7 years of wing chun and MMA I used to do is still in there.

Unfortunately in reality I've got 2 little girls who adore me and would be destroyed if I wasn't there. So reality is I would turn the other way pretend to be asleep and hope they don't set a bite alarm off. Then hope that the extra money I pay on my contents insurance for fishing gear out the house is worth it. There's more valuable things in life than fishing gear.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #45 15 Jun 2020 19:11
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Spot on
Jimbo6745
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Post #46 15 Jun 2020 20:15
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Never been put in the position thankfully. The only thing to take from this post is get tackle insurance. If push comes to shove you could let 5 blokes take your gear and have peace of mind you ain't got to save up for years to get your money back. I don't care if your Muhammad Amir Bruce lee if 5 blokes want your gear there having it,
jam-ie jam-ie
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Post #47 15 Jun 2020 21:26
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Precisely mate, I boxed as a young man, it saved me from getting into trouble, I'm hot headed at the best of times it taught me control as well and I can genuinely say if I woke up and saw two guys nicking my gear I wouldn't do a thing I'm not risking my life for fishing tackle I have a missus and we are trying to start a family I'm not risking that for something I have insurance on
Bigted50 Bigted50
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Post #48 16 Jun 2020 04:59
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That's the one spod.

Been there and done it although it was my cars at home they were after and they had the weapons not me.

All 4 of em head to toe in black and wired on drugs.

My dog nearly got it too.

It just does not happen like you think, complete element of surprise is on their side and it ain't like the movies let me tell ya.

Pick your waters for starters as it ain't worth trauma.
midlandman midlandman
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Post #49 16 Jun 2020 07:56
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Spot on. You're right, there's a good chance that you would get battered, and still lose your tackle.

....And if you won the fight and gave them a battering, you think that would be the end of it? At the very best, you will never be safe to fish that venue again.
clicky clicky
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Post #50 16 Jun 2020 08:05
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I've been done twice on the bank,1st time it happened was my own fault, the weather was terrible, strong winds and driving rain into my bivvy so zipped the door down..around an hour later I had 3 bleeps of the buzzers all at same time.i just put it down to the weather and went back to kip..in the morning unzipped the door to not see 3 Richie Mac rods and 3 ss3000s obviously the 3 bleeps I had was them cutting the lines..2nd time I got done, i was in my bag asleep when one bloke sat on me while the other cut my lines and legged it with my rods and reels..not much I could do about that, the bloke weighed a ton..by the time he had got up and legged it with his mate they was over the fence before I got out the bag....I just use **** get nowadays,no one would nick it..
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