Hi Guys,
Just starting to get into overnight sessions but i feel like im taking so much gear compared to other people which would lead me to belive that i am massively over packing but i feel like i need everything im taking.
Currently i have:
Cradle + Sling
5 Road bag with landing net ect inside
Bat Bag with popups glugs stickmix ect
3 Buckets for bait Boilies, Pellet, Floaters
Sleeping Bag
Bed Chair
Trakker Brolly System
Bottled water
X-Large bag with Tackle, Buzz Bars, Bank Sticks, Cooker, pans, Zig disc, Gas ect
X-Large Bag with Pillow, Food, Milk, Drinks, Spare Clothes, Chargers ect
I honesly dont know how i can reduce this down.
Any ideas guys?
Just starting to get into overnight sessions but i feel like im taking so much gear compared to other people which would lead me to belive that i am massively over packing but i feel like i need everything im taking.
Currently i have:
Cradle + Sling
5 Road bag with landing net ect inside
Bat Bag with popups glugs stickmix ect
3 Buckets for bait Boilies, Pellet, Floaters
Sleeping Bag
Bed Chair
Trakker Brolly System
Bottled water
X-Large bag with Tackle, Buzz Bars, Bank Sticks, Cooker, pans, Zig disc, Gas ect
X-Large Bag with Pillow, Food, Milk, Drinks, Spare Clothes, Chargers ect
I honesly dont know how i can reduce this down.
Any ideas guys?
I'd leave the spare clothes, bait bag and 2 buckets in the motor and just get them if you need them. Make up a bucket of bait and put a couple of hook baits in it. If you are having a good session and run out of bait just nip back to the motor and make up another bucket
3 buckets and a bait bag is excessive for an overnighter I think
3 buckets and a bait bag is excessive for an overnighter I think
In reply to Post #1
as above leave stuff in car and pop back if that's an option.
After a few sessions you will soon learn what you use and what you do with out. Again if safe leave these bits in the car. After about your 5th trip go through your equipment and if you haven't used it once you probably won't need it so either leave at home or in car.
It will become apparent what you actually need, what you think you need and what you know you don't need, it will become apparent overtime. Simple things like 1 rod for spombing and markering
as above leave stuff in car and pop back if that's an option.
After a few sessions you will soon learn what you use and what you do with out. Again if safe leave these bits in the car. After about your 5th trip go through your equipment and if you haven't used it once you probably won't need it so either leave at home or in car.
It will become apparent what you actually need, what you think you need and what you know you don't need, it will become apparent overtime. Simple things like 1 rod for spombing and markering
In reply to Post #1
there is a thread further down that might be useful, but heres what i take - be it an overnighter, 24hours or a full weekend (or longer if i were able, just with extra bait, water and food).
It might also be useful to know what the water you will be fishing is like - ie how much bait you need to take, normally i only use two rods - easier to get two fishing effectively than three just because you can.
Also these two threads might help also:
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=400951
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=418847
this is what i take (copied from about thread):
- Bed - JRC Xlite Levelbed, 6.5kg, pillow case (jacket goes into case when i go to bed for a pillow) ECWS sleeping bag system set up dependant on season
- three rods sleeve, marker rod and Fast and Light in bag (no front or groundsheet)
- rucksack
Drennan large specimen one (40 litres i think?).
side pocket: stove, inside kettle, inside small primus cooking pot, pot of teabags which goes inside cup, small pot of coffee, tea spoon and a spork.
other side pocket banksticks, 4 pegs in a bag, hookbaits (3 tubs - one has all food bait hookbaits, 18mm hard bottom baits, 14mm cork balls), two tubs of alternative popups, film canister with a handful of plastics.
central compartment - gas, buzz bars, camera and binoculars. Hoodie goes in there too.
front pocket has 6 leads in a small pouch, small ESP tackle pouch has 4 spools of hooklink, floss, small clam shell tackle box, small tube of chod sections, scissors/baiting needles etc, 4 packs of hooks and the two types of rigs i use curled up in old hook packets - just need to cut to length and steamed
top bit has battery pack, head torch, lighter, car keys, waller.
TA Coolbag if doing 24hours + - food/milk. small ridgemonkey and plastic plate in front pocket.
- bait bucket with 2-5kg boilies, catapult, spomb and marker float. kilo of pellets and a packet of solid bags.
- 3 litre water butt and unhooking mat.
extra water, spare clothes in the car, along with a pouch with spare hooklink material, hooks, leads.
there is a thread further down that might be useful, but heres what i take - be it an overnighter, 24hours or a full weekend (or longer if i were able, just with extra bait, water and food).
It might also be useful to know what the water you will be fishing is like - ie how much bait you need to take, normally i only use two rods - easier to get two fishing effectively than three just because you can.
Also these two threads might help also:
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=400951
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=418847
this is what i take (copied from about thread):
- Bed - JRC Xlite Levelbed, 6.5kg, pillow case (jacket goes into case when i go to bed for a pillow) ECWS sleeping bag system set up dependant on season
- three rods sleeve, marker rod and Fast and Light in bag (no front or groundsheet)
- rucksack
Drennan large specimen one (40 litres i think?).
side pocket: stove, inside kettle, inside small primus cooking pot, pot of teabags which goes inside cup, small pot of coffee, tea spoon and a spork.
other side pocket banksticks, 4 pegs in a bag, hookbaits (3 tubs - one has all food bait hookbaits, 18mm hard bottom baits, 14mm cork balls), two tubs of alternative popups, film canister with a handful of plastics.
central compartment - gas, buzz bars, camera and binoculars. Hoodie goes in there too.
front pocket has 6 leads in a small pouch, small ESP tackle pouch has 4 spools of hooklink, floss, small clam shell tackle box, small tube of chod sections, scissors/baiting needles etc, 4 packs of hooks and the two types of rigs i use curled up in old hook packets - just need to cut to length and steamed
top bit has battery pack, head torch, lighter, car keys, waller.
TA Coolbag if doing 24hours + - food/milk. small ridgemonkey and plastic plate in front pocket.
- bait bucket with 2-5kg boilies, catapult, spomb and marker float. kilo of pellets and a packet of solid bags.
- 3 litre water butt and unhooking mat.
extra water, spare clothes in the car, along with a pouch with spare hooklink material, hooks, leads.
In reply to Post #4
I've even cut down to two rods,
As follows
Brolly
Bedchair
Rucksack 45lt with everything in inc cooking Stuff two bank sticks with buzzbars and alarms
Small cool bag for food
One bucket of bait inc pops and hook baits..
I've even cut down to two rods,
As follows
Brolly
Bedchair
Rucksack 45lt with everything in inc cooking Stuff two bank sticks with buzzbars and alarms
Small cool bag for food
One bucket of bait inc pops and hook baits..
In reply to Post #1
How many times have you been?
What I'd suggest, is once you have been 3 times, get home and lay your kit in the garden/shed/living room.
Split it into 3 piles, 1 - things used every time, 2 things used once or twice and 3rd not used at all.
Then, leave those not used at all at home, leave those used once or twice in the motor and only pack the things you need every time.
Assuming your'e going to the same water there's little need for 50 leads of different sizes, 3 rig boxes or sh@tloads of terminal gear.
Good luck.
How many times have you been?
What I'd suggest, is once you have been 3 times, get home and lay your kit in the garden/shed/living room.
Split it into 3 piles, 1 - things used every time, 2 things used once or twice and 3rd not used at all.
Then, leave those not used at all at home, leave those used once or twice in the motor and only pack the things you need every time.
Assuming your'e going to the same water there's little need for 50 leads of different sizes, 3 rig boxes or sh@tloads of terminal gear.
Good luck.
In reply to Post #1
For a start don't be taking 5 rods you could take 2 maybe 3 and still be effective. Your taking pop ups,glugs, stick mixes,pellets,floaters.boiles. Take 2 tubs of pop ups 1 food bait and one tub with a few different colours mixed in.you should only need a small cooker and a small pan. Your tackle box will be full of crap cause I no mine was. all mine fits in a thinking Angler's pouch That fits on top of the rucksack only take what you need.a pillow? Get rid fold a hoody up. In the summer I do away with brew kit,milk,sugar,mugs the lot. No it's no good having a social in my peg. I always take spare trousers, t shirt and socks maybe a warmer top in case I end up in the drink.
I don't drive so I carry 3 days worth of stuff on my barrow most of the time and most of the time it's lighter than peoples overnight kit. I have even gone as far as stashing stuff in the woods like spare leads and other bits so it don't weigh me down. I spent a long time in the army so I am a bit ruthless with what I take. I don't mind being uncomfortable if I am light it's a trade I am happy with. In the winter it's different. Bait is a hard thing to get right if you don't drive and it's the main weight on my barrow for sure. Maybe you could prebait a few days before your session and take minimal bait on your trip. If the fish ain't there find them and fish for a bite at a time.
For a start don't be taking 5 rods you could take 2 maybe 3 and still be effective. Your taking pop ups,glugs, stick mixes,pellets,floaters.boiles. Take 2 tubs of pop ups 1 food bait and one tub with a few different colours mixed in.you should only need a small cooker and a small pan. Your tackle box will be full of crap cause I no mine was. all mine fits in a thinking Angler's pouch That fits on top of the rucksack only take what you need.a pillow? Get rid fold a hoody up. In the summer I do away with brew kit,milk,sugar,mugs the lot. No it's no good having a social in my peg. I always take spare trousers, t shirt and socks maybe a warmer top in case I end up in the drink.
I don't drive so I carry 3 days worth of stuff on my barrow most of the time and most of the time it's lighter than peoples overnight kit. I have even gone as far as stashing stuff in the woods like spare leads and other bits so it don't weigh me down. I spent a long time in the army so I am a bit ruthless with what I take. I don't mind being uncomfortable if I am light it's a trade I am happy with. In the winter it's different. Bait is a hard thing to get right if you don't drive and it's the main weight on my barrow for sure. Maybe you could prebait a few days before your session and take minimal bait on your trip. If the fish ain't there find them and fish for a bite at a time.
I remember the days everything I needed was in one bag
end tackle was tuppaware box with hooks weights etc and 3 rounds of sandwiches and a flask of coffee couple of mars bars bait was a tin of spam and a jar of worms
how things have changer
end tackle was tuppaware box with hooks weights etc and 3 rounds of sandwiches and a flask of coffee couple of mars bars bait was a tin of spam and a jar of worms
how things have changer
In reply to Post #1
24 hrs isn't long, if you factor in a nights kip! I've stopped taking hot food for anything 24hrs or less. A sandwich, some crisps, and if i'm feeling extravagant I'll take a porridge pot for breakfast (just add hot water).
I've condensed my kit over the years to the following:
3 rods + landing net
Brolly
Bedchair (sleeping bag stays on it)
Thinking Anglers Rucksack (everything I need tackle wise + pop ups/wafters, banksticks, alarms, scales, radio, catapult, wooly hat)
Small aqua cool bag (food, stove, kettle, water, milk, couple of beers)
1 small bait bucket
Unhooking mat
Camera
I still need a barrow but its a fairly light push.
Setting up/packing away is quick so I'm flexible to move if necessary.
Over the years you realise what you really need on a session and in reality its not much.
24 hrs isn't long, if you factor in a nights kip! I've stopped taking hot food for anything 24hrs or less. A sandwich, some crisps, and if i'm feeling extravagant I'll take a porridge pot for breakfast (just add hot water).
I've condensed my kit over the years to the following:
3 rods + landing net
Brolly
Bedchair (sleeping bag stays on it)
Thinking Anglers Rucksack (everything I need tackle wise + pop ups/wafters, banksticks, alarms, scales, radio, catapult, wooly hat)
Small aqua cool bag (food, stove, kettle, water, milk, couple of beers)
1 small bait bucket
Unhooking mat
Camera
I still need a barrow but its a fairly light push.
Setting up/packing away is quick so I'm flexible to move if necessary.
Over the years you realise what you really need on a session and in reality its not much.
In reply to Post #9
Do we need bed chairs for 24hrs. ?
Do we need bed chairs for 24hrs. ?
In reply to Post #1
Dont forget the life systems
Bottle of red and some tinnies
Dont forget the life systems
Bottle of red and some tinnies
In reply to Post #9
Over the years you realise what you really need on a session and in reality its not much.
This ^^^^
You will start to cut it down as you get more used to doing nights. I'm usually limited to one quick overnight trip a week. Less than 24hrs. I take;
Lightweight quiver with 3 rods + leading/spomb rod (if I need it), brolly, banksticks, net, etc.
Small TA cool bag with enough food and cooking bits. I normally take leftovers or pre cooked meals in a Tupperware as opposed to cooking on the bank.
Bedchair with sleeping bag folded on it already
Bait bucket (maybe x2)
Waders if I might need them
Rucksack with all my tackle and hookbaits + other bits like glasses, headtorch, etc.
Unhooking Mat
Spare clothes and water go in the bottom of the barrow along with non perishable food and anything else.
I could probably cut it down more but I like to have some bits just in case.
Over the years you realise what you really need on a session and in reality its not much.
This ^^^^
You will start to cut it down as you get more used to doing nights. I'm usually limited to one quick overnight trip a week. Less than 24hrs. I take;
Lightweight quiver with 3 rods + leading/spomb rod (if I need it), brolly, banksticks, net, etc.
Small TA cool bag with enough food and cooking bits. I normally take leftovers or pre cooked meals in a Tupperware as opposed to cooking on the bank.
Bedchair with sleeping bag folded on it already
Bait bucket (maybe x2)
Waders if I might need them
Rucksack with all my tackle and hookbaits + other bits like glasses, headtorch, etc.
Unhooking Mat
Spare clothes and water go in the bottom of the barrow along with non perishable food and anything else.
I could probably cut it down more but I like to have some bits just in case.
In reply to Post #10
Oh yes I am too old to sleep on the floor now 😂
Oh yes I am too old to sleep on the floor now 😂
In reply to Post #12
Agree totally, when I first started to do nights years ago, I can remember taking tea pot, big kettle extra and now for the short sessions I have it right down to food and tackle into a 40lt rucksack. The one thing I do go large on is the tackle box, I suppose it's just that safety net there in case I want to make wholesale changes, ideally I would cut that right down to a few basics, normally a couple of spare leads, a couple of inline ones as well for the bags, pop ups are in the pva bag in film cannisters, that way I can carry a few if I want to make changes, always have a bait bucket with pva pellet mix and feed, a few boillies. The stove, gas and triangle kettle fit into a small zip up bag, a flask would be smaller but you can't beat a proper cuppa, small quiver, bottle of water fits in the bottom of the quiver and done. Any food is normally cooked or something like packed porridge.
Changes a lot if I take the kids overnight though but for me on a short session it's perfect
Agree totally, when I first started to do nights years ago, I can remember taking tea pot, big kettle extra and now for the short sessions I have it right down to food and tackle into a 40lt rucksack. The one thing I do go large on is the tackle box, I suppose it's just that safety net there in case I want to make wholesale changes, ideally I would cut that right down to a few basics, normally a couple of spare leads, a couple of inline ones as well for the bags, pop ups are in the pva bag in film cannisters, that way I can carry a few if I want to make changes, always have a bait bucket with pva pellet mix and feed, a few boillies. The stove, gas and triangle kettle fit into a small zip up bag, a flask would be smaller but you can't beat a proper cuppa, small quiver, bottle of water fits in the bottom of the quiver and done. Any food is normally cooked or something like packed porridge.
Changes a lot if I take the kids overnight though but for me on a short session it's perfect
In reply to Post #1
One other thing that really helps is staying organised. Make sure everything has a place, and pack it away the same every time. Staying organised means your gear generally takes up lass space. My Rucksack is like tetris, but I know exactly how to pack it every time.
Also I generally only use 3 rigs for all my fishing. Slip D for Bottom baits/Snowman/wafters, Hinge stiff rig, and choddies (if I REALLY have to lol). Having a few tied up means I don't need to cart around all the tackle. I have a separate bucket if I ever fish PVA bags which is rare.
One other thing that really helps is staying organised. Make sure everything has a place, and pack it away the same every time. Staying organised means your gear generally takes up lass space. My Rucksack is like tetris, but I know exactly how to pack it every time.
Also I generally only use 3 rigs for all my fishing. Slip D for Bottom baits/Snowman/wafters, Hinge stiff rig, and choddies (if I REALLY have to lol). Having a few tied up means I don't need to cart around all the tackle. I have a separate bucket if I ever fish PVA bags which is rare.
Now I'm in my 50s I'm finally feeling the cold. Anything other than summer it's the clobber taking up space. Plus I can't set up in it as I get so hot. So have to carry
Boots
Snugpak jacket
Thermal.bib n brace
Bridgewater socks
Merino top and bottoms
Waterproof if likely to rain.
No point in leaving it in the van as I basically end up
Wearing everything within a few hours.
I only take a small bucket with a kilo or less of bait
And a Pva pouch with essentials. Least of my worries LOL
Boots
Snugpak jacket
Thermal.bib n brace
Bridgewater socks
Merino top and bottoms
Waterproof if likely to rain.
No point in leaving it in the van as I basically end up
Wearing everything within a few hours.
I only take a small bucket with a kilo or less of bait
And a Pva pouch with essentials. Least of my worries LOL
What's your problem with taking everything you take? If it just because you're looking at other people and thinking that's how it should be done I wouldn't worry. I'm like you and take everything up to and including the kitchen sink but I like a bit of comfort. I'm happy to lug the gear so no way I'm not going to take my pillow/food etc just to be able to say I travel light
In reply to Post #8
mars bars were 4d, always preferred a marathon
mars bars were 4d, always preferred a marathon
In reply to Post #21
I would argue, but I don't want to do it only to say that I'm doing it for an argument. That's about how I understand your suggestion and your thoughts on packing or cushions when you travel. Traveling light is like an unplanned vacation for me when you take a travel swoosh, and that's it. Sometimes you have to stock up on something else. But it's weird for me to hear about pillows... do you take pillows with you? I even went to the hospital packed with pillows at https://www.spackmachine.com/ and told them I needed them for a lighter trip.
I would argue, but I don't want to do it only to say that I'm doing it for an argument. That's about how I understand your suggestion and your thoughts on packing or cushions when you travel. Traveling light is like an unplanned vacation for me when you take a travel swoosh, and that's it. Sometimes you have to stock up on something else. But it's weird for me to hear about pillows... do you take pillows with you? I even went to the hospital packed with pillows at https://www.spackmachine.com/ and told them I needed them for a lighter trip.
In reply to Post #1
I suspect I wouldn't take nearly as much as I do if I didn't use a Power Porter.
Just being a bit different, I can't see a lot wrong with what you are taking to be honest. If you saw what I take, you'd think you were threadbare. If you're using it all or feeling like you are, then maybe the issue is transporting it to your swim and perhaps you could look at making that easier for yourself with the various barrow options that are now available?
I suspect I wouldn't take nearly as much as I do if I didn't use a Power Porter.
Just being a bit different, I can't see a lot wrong with what you are taking to be honest. If you saw what I take, you'd think you were threadbare. If you're using it all or feeling like you are, then maybe the issue is transporting it to your swim and perhaps you could look at making that easier for yourself with the various barrow options that are now available?
Taking to much gear is what puts me off going fishing sometimes. I know for a fact i take to much but i just cant seem to cut down. My main carryall must weigh about 200kg atleast 
In reply to Post #24
Wow that's heavy
Wow that's heavy
In reply to Post #25
Probably not that heavy but feels it
Probably not that heavy but feels it
In reply to Post #1
The simple answer is take what you need!
I've written about my gear for an overnight on Ardleigh on other threads, but Rod holdall with bivvy, tackle box, bedchair with sleeping bag already in place, then almost everything else in or strapped to my rucksack, unhooking mat, food, water, cooking stuff, bait, although I would sometimes take an extra bait bucket.
I got it down so that I could carry it in 1 trip, although 2 if I had extra bait.
You shouldn't need phone charger for one night, come to that nor spare clothes, they can be left in car.
Do you need 3 buckets for bait?
Can you bag it down, and put them in one bucket?
Get a small stove rather than a flat cooker
The simple answer is take what you need!
I've written about my gear for an overnight on Ardleigh on other threads, but Rod holdall with bivvy, tackle box, bedchair with sleeping bag already in place, then almost everything else in or strapped to my rucksack, unhooking mat, food, water, cooking stuff, bait, although I would sometimes take an extra bait bucket.
I got it down so that I could carry it in 1 trip, although 2 if I had extra bait.
You shouldn't need phone charger for one night, come to that nor spare clothes, they can be left in car.
Do you need 3 buckets for bait?
Can you bag it down, and put them in one bucket?
Get a small stove rather than a flat cooker
In reply to Post #10
i remember a few years ago i fished a river over night for barbel, took my day chair
NEVER again
i remember a few years ago i fished a river over night for barbel, took my day chair
NEVER again
In reply to Post #24
Weighed my carryall yesterday incl bait 5.4 kilo 200kg is ridiculous what are taking that weighs so much is it a miss type did you mean 20kg
Weighed my carryall yesterday incl bait 5.4 kilo 200kg is ridiculous what are taking that weighs so much is it a miss type did you mean 20kg
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