Bored during lockdown, got thinking. What is the minimum amount of kit that we could all get away with for quick 15/18 hour overnight sessions?
lets have your opinions please.
lets have your opinions please.
In reply to Post #1
Backpack, quiver, unhooking mat and bed is what ive got it down to.
I can just about carry it all without a barrow but it is awkward. Currently swapping the brolly out for a tempest and going down to 10ft rods to reduce the length and weight of my quiver. Next change is a lighter bed chair and then hopefully I will be barrow free for overnighters. Fortunately my overnighter waters dont require a long walk.
Backpack, quiver, unhooking mat and bed is what ive got it down to.
I can just about carry it all without a barrow but it is awkward. Currently swapping the brolly out for a tempest and going down to 10ft rods to reduce the length and weight of my quiver. Next change is a lighter bed chair and then hopefully I will be barrow free for overnighters. Fortunately my overnighter waters dont require a long walk.
I always think this one as feel that when ever i load the car its just too much stuff but then always want to be prepared, hopefully going to get a ticket somewhere local to me this year and with a young family time will be the overnighter from work and back in the morning so currently sorting everything out, i also like my comforts too much;
Rodbag - 5 rods, 2 nets and poles, weigh sling, tempest and pod in it
Cradle - Colapasble bucket, alarms and crocs inside
Bedchair with bag folded up inside, pillow and bivvy table
Barrow as everything weighs a tonne, under bag has stove, kettle, water, ridgemoket toaster in it
Holdall - TF gear barrow bag with hard top (Excellent bit of kit even if it is massive which is where my problem lies) - Fox single sided large box, 3 rig boards, spare clothes, camera and tri pod, scales, Bits bag with PVA stuff, korda cutter and grinder in it, Bits bag with spods, marker floats, spare batteries, tape, paracetamol, mozzie coils, first aid kit in. Spare change of clothes and 2 x socks. Zig bin with zigs and leadcore leaders, Another bits bag with other stuff in it, Ipad, radio, bog roll, couple of carrier bags for rubbish
2 x bait buckets
Small cool bag for food and cup / cutlery
Rodbag - 5 rods, 2 nets and poles, weigh sling, tempest and pod in it
Cradle - Colapasble bucket, alarms and crocs inside
Bedchair with bag folded up inside, pillow and bivvy table
Barrow as everything weighs a tonne, under bag has stove, kettle, water, ridgemoket toaster in it
Holdall - TF gear barrow bag with hard top (Excellent bit of kit even if it is massive which is where my problem lies) - Fox single sided large box, 3 rig boards, spare clothes, camera and tri pod, scales, Bits bag with PVA stuff, korda cutter and grinder in it, Bits bag with spods, marker floats, spare batteries, tape, paracetamol, mozzie coils, first aid kit in. Spare change of clothes and 2 x socks. Zig bin with zigs and leadcore leaders, Another bits bag with other stuff in it, Ipad, radio, bog roll, couple of carrier bags for rubbish
2 x bait buckets
Small cool bag for food and cup / cutlery
In reply to Post #1
Ya good idea people take much to much gear a mate has a barra bag he can hardly lift it with a pouch with dozens of leads in and loads of pouches with bits for a day session I take 6 leads ,rigs already made up ,everything in a korda tackle safe, pop ups small amount bait pva stocking bags made at home about 8, small scales, caty, towel, buzzers ,shades,use phone for photos with an mini tripod off eBay ,with whistle can app 3in 1 kenco coffee
Flask with hot water in or small cooker like jetboil ridge monkey pasty or ,sandwiches already made to go in it or leave monkey eat them cold all in a esp rucksack I highly recommend this rucksack so comfortable ,bed with bag in I use a Gardner mat with brolly 10ft rods net in also tie on baits at home on rods ready to go sorry if I left anything out
Ya good idea people take much to much gear a mate has a barra bag he can hardly lift it with a pouch with dozens of leads in and loads of pouches with bits for a day session I take 6 leads ,rigs already made up ,everything in a korda tackle safe, pop ups small amount bait pva stocking bags made at home about 8, small scales, caty, towel, buzzers ,shades,use phone for photos with an mini tripod off eBay ,with whistle can app 3in 1 kenco coffee
Flask with hot water in or small cooker like jetboil ridge monkey pasty or ,sandwiches already made to go in it or leave monkey eat them cold all in a esp rucksack I highly recommend this rucksack so comfortable ,bed with bag in I use a Gardner mat with brolly 10ft rods net in also tie on baits at home on rods ready to go sorry if I left anything out
In reply to Post #1
Rods, landing net, rucksack, (containing food and drink), bedchair and tackle box. The unhooking mat gets strapped to the rucksack.
I check the weather and in summer don't always bother with a brolly.
To be honest taking my dog I still end up with her food and bowls for an overnighter.
Rods, landing net, rucksack, (containing food and drink), bedchair and tackle box. The unhooking mat gets strapped to the rucksack.
I check the weather and in summer don't always bother with a brolly.
To be honest taking my dog I still end up with her food and bowls for an overnighter.
In reply to Post #1
Its the camping and cooking stuff that's the problem for me
Rod holdall with net etc.
Rucksack
Pod
Mat
Bedchair
Bag and pillow
Shelter
Barrow if walking
Keep an old holdall in the car with spare clothes, puffa jacket and a few bits in it
When I did them quite regular at dinner times I used to go out from work and get some sandwich's, crips, few snacks and a drink etc. for my evening meal or sometimes call at a chippy on the way. Even used to keep some bait in the freezer at work, also tied my baits on to my rigs at work too and saved them in a pop up pot. Rods out in 15 minutes. Cant beat getting paid for sorting your rigs out lol
The one thing I missed the most was a hot drink on a morning. On the way to work I used to call at a McDonalds etc for a coffee or it was straight on when I got to work!
Eat, sleep, rave repeat
I absolutely hate humping gear and packing up with a passion, add rain, worse still ffs
I use to get up early purposely and pack things away steady and slowly until there was just the rods out laid on the bank ready for the off. Fishing and rushing is a no for me
Its the camping and cooking stuff that's the problem for me
Rod holdall with net etc.
Rucksack
Pod
Mat
Bedchair
Bag and pillow
Shelter
Barrow if walking
Keep an old holdall in the car with spare clothes, puffa jacket and a few bits in it
When I did them quite regular at dinner times I used to go out from work and get some sandwich's, crips, few snacks and a drink etc. for my evening meal or sometimes call at a chippy on the way. Even used to keep some bait in the freezer at work, also tied my baits on to my rigs at work too and saved them in a pop up pot. Rods out in 15 minutes. Cant beat getting paid for sorting your rigs out lol
The one thing I missed the most was a hot drink on a morning. On the way to work I used to call at a McDonalds etc for a coffee or it was straight on when I got to work!
Eat, sleep, rave repeat
I absolutely hate humping gear and packing up with a passion, add rain, worse still ffs
I use to get up early purposely and pack things away steady and slowly until there was just the rods out laid on the bank ready for the off. Fishing and rushing is a no for me
In reply to Post #4
almost forgot No bivvy table two pks wet wipes small pk tissue for hands a toilet use phone for torch I wish you hadn't asked you got me thinking now going to get it all out to see if I can cut down more lol😂
almost forgot No bivvy table two pks wet wipes small pk tissue for hands a toilet use phone for torch I wish you hadn't asked you got me thinking now going to get it all out to see if I can cut down more lol😂
Its the barrow bag and have just brought a couple of tackle safes to try and split the gear down even further and slowly get rid of the need for the barrow bag, I didnt even mention the spares box that lives in the car with a second of most things in it. Note to self, must try harder lol.
The smaller rods - am interested in these as one potential water is just over an acre in size so dont need anything for a long cast and if i can get a rodbag that doesnt go past the front seats that will be a winner. Dont want to pay scope prices so on the hunt for something else with a small pack down legnth and then also anyone else making the scope type rod cases as there must be a big market coming online for these now
The smaller rods - am interested in these as one potential water is just over an acre in size so dont need anything for a long cast and if i can get a rodbag that doesnt go past the front seats that will be a winner. Dont want to pay scope prices so on the hunt for something else with a small pack down legnth and then also anyone else making the scope type rod cases as there must be a big market coming online for these now
In reply to Post #8
Ya forget scopes i recommend a esp camo rucksack and sonik xtractor rods
Ya forget scopes i recommend a esp camo rucksack and sonik xtractor rods
In reply to Post #6
I agree nothing worse up in night to bream say four times then packing up but then packing up in pooring rain is even worse also you can leave out any food take few bars chocolate cans drink go to chippy on way to lake eat in car
I agree nothing worse up in night to bream say four times then packing up but then packing up in pooring rain is even worse also you can leave out any food take few bars chocolate cans drink go to chippy on way to lake eat in car
Soniks do look good, would also noeed the 2 piece landing net, anyone seen a handle that can be brought on its own?
Do they have full size reel seats? of will it be back to the file to make them fit
Do they have full size reel seats? of will it be back to the file to make them fit
In reply to Post #11
There's a few two piece poles around also I think rods have large reel seat but check
There's a few two piece poles around also I think rods have large reel seat but check
In reply to Post #8
Sonik do rod sleeves as do nash. Cult tackle also have a range for retraceable rods.
Ive just got some lightweight aqua atom sleeves that go over the rods when in the quiver and these would fit most of the retractable rods out there.
Sonik do rod sleeves as do nash. Cult tackle also have a range for retraceable rods.
Ive just got some lightweight aqua atom sleeves that go over the rods when in the quiver and these would fit most of the retractable rods out there.
In reply to Post #1
Most of my fishing is single nights (though Friday/Saturday rather than between work) i tend to use the following regardless of if its a single night or a full weekend (or longer if i should be so lucky!
- Bed - JRC Xlite Levelbed, 6.5kg, pillow case (jacket goes into case when i go to bed for a pillow) ECWS sleeping bag system set up dependant on season
- Quiver - ESP 3 rod (can squeeze the spomb/leading rod on too if using 3 fishing rods) - contains 50inch brollie, spare storm rod in case rods need to be in the water and distance sticks, net handle and net head/retainer sling)
- rucksack
ESP large specimen one (40 litres i think?).
side pocket: stove, inside kettle, inside small primus cooking pot, pot of teabags which goes inside cup, small pot of coffee tea spoon and a spork.
other side pocket banksticks, 4 pegs in a bag, hookbaits (3 tubs - one has all food bait hookbaits, 18mm hard bottom baits, 14mm cork balls), two tubs of alternative popups.
central compartment - gas, small cool bag (1 pint milk, porridge pot and evening food and a protein bar and apple), buzz bars, camera and binoculars.
front pocket has 6 leads in a small pouch, small ESP tackle pouch has 3 spools of hooklink, floss, small clam shell tackle box, small tube of chod sections, scissors/baiting needles etc, 2 packs of hooks and the two types of rigs i use curled up in old hook packets - just need to cut to length and steamed
top bit has battery pack, head torch, lighter.
- bait bucket with 2/3kg boilies, catapult, spomb and marker float. kilo of pellets and a packet of solid bags.
- 3 litre water butt and unhooking mat.
all goes on a porter lite. if fishing more than 1 night them a cool bag lives in the boot with supplies for the second 24 hours and a water butt to top that up.
Most of my fishing is single nights (though Friday/Saturday rather than between work) i tend to use the following regardless of if its a single night or a full weekend (or longer if i should be so lucky!
- Bed - JRC Xlite Levelbed, 6.5kg, pillow case (jacket goes into case when i go to bed for a pillow) ECWS sleeping bag system set up dependant on season
- Quiver - ESP 3 rod (can squeeze the spomb/leading rod on too if using 3 fishing rods) - contains 50inch brollie, spare storm rod in case rods need to be in the water and distance sticks, net handle and net head/retainer sling)
- rucksack
ESP large specimen one (40 litres i think?).
side pocket: stove, inside kettle, inside small primus cooking pot, pot of teabags which goes inside cup, small pot of coffee tea spoon and a spork.
other side pocket banksticks, 4 pegs in a bag, hookbaits (3 tubs - one has all food bait hookbaits, 18mm hard bottom baits, 14mm cork balls), two tubs of alternative popups.
central compartment - gas, small cool bag (1 pint milk, porridge pot and evening food and a protein bar and apple), buzz bars, camera and binoculars.
front pocket has 6 leads in a small pouch, small ESP tackle pouch has 3 spools of hooklink, floss, small clam shell tackle box, small tube of chod sections, scissors/baiting needles etc, 2 packs of hooks and the two types of rigs i use curled up in old hook packets - just need to cut to length and steamed
top bit has battery pack, head torch, lighter.
- bait bucket with 2/3kg boilies, catapult, spomb and marker float. kilo of pellets and a packet of solid bags.
- 3 litre water butt and unhooking mat.
all goes on a porter lite. if fishing more than 1 night them a cool bag lives in the boot with supplies for the second 24 hours and a water butt to top that up.
Most of my fishing tend to be overnight at the minute and this is what I take:
2 x 12ft Rods & Reels
1 x Spod/Marker Hybrid
Landing Net, Scales & sling
ALL THE ABOVE FIT INSIDE MY THINKING ANGLERS UNHOOKING MAT
Cotswold Aquarius MK3 rucksack which I believe is 55 litres containing:
Stove, Gas, 2litres water, coffee sachets (don't like messing with milk) & sugar
2 Tubes PVA Mesh
Tub PVA Nuggets
Korda Tackle Safe with essentials
Korda Rig Safe
4 x Sticks
2 Alarms, reciever & swingers
Food - Usually Pot Noodle for evening, Ginsters pasty for breakfast and a few protein bars
Snugpak SJ9 jacket
Headtorch
Carp Care kit
Wipes for me
Handgel
Small First Aid kit
Few bags of pellets and shelf life boilies and a Fox Camolite hookbait case with 8 half pots of assorted hookbait.
Fox Duralite Bedchair with 3 season bag & in the colder/wetter months I also add an Aqua waterproof & thermal cover & use a Thinking Anglers Cover Up and some paracord to make as basic shelter if needed.
I tend to leave a shelter at home (or if I am unsure of the venue, take a Fast & Light but leave in the car) in the better months as I find this takes the most amount of time for me setting up/putting away. I also leave my third rod and second spod/marker because again I prefer the ease of two rods when time is limited.
The other great thing about the above is that I can carry in one go so no need to take the barrow and as I tend to fish out of the bag, I can easily move if needed to make the most of my time.
In my car there is a drawer under the passenger seat so I keep quite a bit of spare tackle in there which nbever comes out but has spare hooks, leads, hookinks, batteries, spare alarm head etc and in the boot with the spare wheel I keep 2 spare Coleman gas cannisters in an old thermal cool bag.
2 x 12ft Rods & Reels
1 x Spod/Marker Hybrid
Landing Net, Scales & sling
ALL THE ABOVE FIT INSIDE MY THINKING ANGLERS UNHOOKING MAT
Cotswold Aquarius MK3 rucksack which I believe is 55 litres containing:
Stove, Gas, 2litres water, coffee sachets (don't like messing with milk) & sugar
2 Tubes PVA Mesh
Tub PVA Nuggets
Korda Tackle Safe with essentials
Korda Rig Safe
4 x Sticks
2 Alarms, reciever & swingers
Food - Usually Pot Noodle for evening, Ginsters pasty for breakfast and a few protein bars
Snugpak SJ9 jacket
Headtorch
Carp Care kit
Wipes for me
Handgel
Small First Aid kit
Few bags of pellets and shelf life boilies and a Fox Camolite hookbait case with 8 half pots of assorted hookbait.
Fox Duralite Bedchair with 3 season bag & in the colder/wetter months I also add an Aqua waterproof & thermal cover & use a Thinking Anglers Cover Up and some paracord to make as basic shelter if needed.
I tend to leave a shelter at home (or if I am unsure of the venue, take a Fast & Light but leave in the car) in the better months as I find this takes the most amount of time for me setting up/putting away. I also leave my third rod and second spod/marker because again I prefer the ease of two rods when time is limited.
The other great thing about the above is that I can carry in one go so no need to take the barrow and as I tend to fish out of the bag, I can easily move if needed to make the most of my time.
In my car there is a drawer under the passenger seat so I keep quite a bit of spare tackle in there which nbever comes out but has spare hooks, leads, hookinks, batteries, spare alarm head etc and in the boot with the spare wheel I keep 2 spare Coleman gas cannisters in an old thermal cool bag.
In reply to Post #15
There is always something I wanted to know to compare with my rucksack what is the true weight when all loaded with what everyone had said they take would it be ok to weigh your rucksack or carry all thanks
There is always something I wanted to know to compare with my rucksack what is the true weight when all loaded with what everyone had said they take would it be ok to weigh your rucksack or carry all thanks
Small carryall.
Compact bed with bad and cover inside.
Unhooking Mat containing 2 rods, net and 50 inch oval.
No cooking gear, water and can of ale and chocolate only.
That's it, no other bags.
Compact bed with bad and cover inside.
Unhooking Mat containing 2 rods, net and 50 inch oval.
No cooking gear, water and can of ale and chocolate only.
That's it, no other bags.
In reply to Post #16
Happy to weigh mine tomorrow fully loaded (minus food/milk in the cool bag). Would be interesting to know actually.
Happy to weigh mine tomorrow fully loaded (minus food/milk in the cool bag). Would be interesting to know actually.
Reckon you've got all bases pretty much covered so not much to add. My nights are generally leaving home after dinner then getting back for 7am to sort kids and do nursery run before work. Easy in the summer, a race against dusk as the year passes.
I carry rather than barrow for speed (a couple of stiles/kissing gates to go through) so as light as possible is good. Have always used a JRC x-lite and snugpak elite mummy bag, but found myself getting increasingly bad night's sleep due an old back injury. Just swopped for a RLX flat 6 superlight and Techlite compact which weighs around 1lb more but early signs (admittedly only camping on a flat lawn at home with the kids!) are good.
Because I eat at home first and head back before work I've dropped the stove and brew kit - just take water, one beer if it's a nice evening and a breakfast bar. If I'm not going to be rushing I'll take a jet boil stove - great light bit of kit that saves space too.
After lots of different shelters (Atom, Fox pop up shelter, Lo Pro, Scope Recon with sides... tackle shop's dream me...) I've settled on a V2 tempest brolly - slightly heavier but still fine to carry in ESP quiver and goes up/down ridiculously fast which counts for a lot when heading off in the morning.
Good shout from Darth Mullet on here a while back about a place that sells small water containers and pots suitable for ‘just enough' hookbaits - saves weight and space. I'll try to remember the company name.
Only other thing I've learnt is bait amounts... a lot choose to bait heavily which can clearly work really well, but some of my best results in the last 18 months have come fishing a snowman with no more than half a dozen freebies around it. Nice subtle trap that's good for a quick bite 👍🏻
I carry rather than barrow for speed (a couple of stiles/kissing gates to go through) so as light as possible is good. Have always used a JRC x-lite and snugpak elite mummy bag, but found myself getting increasingly bad night's sleep due an old back injury. Just swopped for a RLX flat 6 superlight and Techlite compact which weighs around 1lb more but early signs (admittedly only camping on a flat lawn at home with the kids!) are good.
Because I eat at home first and head back before work I've dropped the stove and brew kit - just take water, one beer if it's a nice evening and a breakfast bar. If I'm not going to be rushing I'll take a jet boil stove - great light bit of kit that saves space too.
After lots of different shelters (Atom, Fox pop up shelter, Lo Pro, Scope Recon with sides... tackle shop's dream me...) I've settled on a V2 tempest brolly - slightly heavier but still fine to carry in ESP quiver and goes up/down ridiculously fast which counts for a lot when heading off in the morning.
Good shout from Darth Mullet on here a while back about a place that sells small water containers and pots suitable for ‘just enough' hookbaits - saves weight and space. I'll try to remember the company name.
Only other thing I've learnt is bait amounts... a lot choose to bait heavily which can clearly work really well, but some of my best results in the last 18 months have come fishing a snowman with no more than half a dozen freebies around it. Nice subtle trap that's good for a quick bite 👍🏻
Regardless of how light I pack, I always find the bedchair/bag is the limiting factor on how much I can carry. Would be easier if they came with a carry strap as standard.
In reply to Post #17
Which unhooking mat do you use to carry your gear in ?
Which unhooking mat do you use to carry your gear in ?
In reply to Post #21
JRC Euro zip mat.
Cheap as well.
JRC Euro zip mat.
Cheap as well.
In reply to Post #22
If you use a tempest rather than a traditional oval it is very well balanced and easy to carry on the shoulder.
If you use a tempest rather than a traditional oval it is very well balanced and easy to carry on the shoulder.
In reply to Post #16
Mine is 4kg fully loaded.
Mine is 4kg fully loaded.
In reply to Post #20
Don't bother with bedchair bag I use Gardner flat mat there's a pocket for scales ect it's also a weigh sling
Don't bother with bedchair bag I use Gardner flat mat there's a pocket for scales ect it's also a weigh sling
In reply to Post #25
6.6 kilo ready to fish no cooking gear included
6.6 kilo ready to fish no cooking gear included
In reply to Post #25
Sorry, meant sleeping bag, not bedchair bag.
Sorry, meant sleeping bag, not bedchair bag.
In reply to Post #27
You can buy a carry strap for bed
You can buy a carry strap for bed
In reply to Post #28
Any recommendations?
Any recommendations?
In reply to Post #29
Trakker do one. On AD website Trakker Padded Shoulder Strap
Trakker do one. On AD website Trakker Padded Shoulder Strap
In reply to Post #30
The trakker one is for e.g. The bucket bag and others
The trakker one is for e.g. The bucket bag and others
In reply to Post #31
Has anyone had an rlx superlite and a JRC x-lite? I have an x-lite but it really is only a quick overnighter bed especially when you are 6ft. Just wondered if I got an rlx superlite I could use it for all my fishing. Any feedback would be great
Has anyone had an rlx superlite and a JRC x-lite? I have an x-lite but it really is only a quick overnighter bed especially when you are 6ft. Just wondered if I got an rlx superlite I could use it for all my fishing. Any feedback would be great
In reply to Post #32
Just made the switch from a 4ish year old JRC xlite (the non-flat version) to the rlx superlite - the superlite is a great bit of kit and seems a massive step forward. The 2 nights I've slept on it so far have been really comfy. It's physically bigger than the xlite but weight difference is negligible.
It is a tiny bit lower than the xlite so leg adjustment still won't be great, but otherwise it seems excellent.
I got a Techlite compact bed to go with it - again, really impressed by that, but worth noting the bed is longer than the bag, so you can only loop the attachment over the head or foot end, rather than both (if that makes sense).
Just made the switch from a 4ish year old JRC xlite (the non-flat version) to the rlx superlite - the superlite is a great bit of kit and seems a massive step forward. The 2 nights I've slept on it so far have been really comfy. It's physically bigger than the xlite but weight difference is negligible.
It is a tiny bit lower than the xlite so leg adjustment still won't be great, but otherwise it seems excellent.
I got a Techlite compact bed to go with it - again, really impressed by that, but worth noting the bed is longer than the bag, so you can only loop the attachment over the head or foot end, rather than both (if that makes sense).
In reply to Post #33
Cheers mate sounds a good option, did you find any deals on the superlite?
Cheers mate sounds a good option, did you find any deals on the superlite?
In reply to Post #34
Did a little bit of digging on the web but couldn't find anything that much cheaper - ended up ordering it off eBay for £159.95 👍🏻
Did a little bit of digging on the web but couldn't find anything that much cheaper - ended up ordering it off eBay for £159.95 👍🏻
In reply to Post #35
Browns have them at £148.
https://www.brownsangling.co.uk/product/trakker-rlx-flat-6-superlight-bed/
Browns have them at £148.
https://www.brownsangling.co.uk/product/trakker-rlx-flat-6-superlight-bed/
When I purchased my super lite I checked eBay for the best price from a seller who also has a shop premesis. I called them and offered them the eBay price less 10 %. ( ie eBay fees) and got it for 124 quid delivered.
Done it on quite a few other items in the past.
Done it on quite a few other items in the past.
In reply to Post #37
Good plan that 👍🏻
Good plan that 👍🏻
In reply to Post #19
ampulla.co.uk - superb for pop-up pots, water containers, brew pots etc etc....
ampulla.co.uk - superb for pop-up pots, water containers, brew pots etc etc....
In reply to Post #39
That's the one, nice one 👍🏻
That's the one, nice one 👍🏻
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