I want to get a small pile of bait out a long way but if I mess up the cast be able to redo it easier.. pva bags r gd but a pain if u need to make 3 or 4 casts to get it right..
Anyone fished a method feeder 150yrds? I dont see why not, get the weight correct, its aerodynamic, the esp one looks gd. I was thinking of wrapping it in my home made boilie paste then fishing a single grain of fake corn on a soft subtle simple rig. Thoughts? Nothing else has worked so far lol so got to be worth a try and I bet noone else is doing that.
Anyone fished a method feeder 150yrds? I dont see why not, get the weight correct, its aerodynamic, the esp one looks gd. I was thinking of wrapping it in my home made boilie paste then fishing a single grain of fake corn on a soft subtle simple rig. Thoughts? Nothing else has worked so far lol so got to be worth a try and I bet noone else is doing that.
In reply to Post #1
The esp ones are very good,I have wrapped in paste before and give them a quick boil.I like it so it's still a bit soft so can push a few small pellets into the paste.I think might struggle hitting 150 yards though
The esp ones are very good,I have wrapped in paste before and give them a quick boil.I like it so it's still a bit soft so can push a few small pellets into the paste.I think might struggle hitting 150 yards though
In reply to Post #1
Given the optimum casting weight of your rods and technique you should take the size and weight of the feeder into account.
Given the optimum casting weight of your rods and technique you should take the size and weight of the feeder into account.
If you want to fish the method at range, IMO the flat ones won't work. Unless they go in perfectly the bait is often ripped off the top quite easily at anything approaching 100 yards.
For that sort of range you want a proper round method feeder and a rock hard mix.
For that sort of range you want a proper round method feeder and a rock hard mix.
In reply to Post #1
One of the secrets to method is accuracy. If you can cast consistently and accurately at 150 no probs. The other secret is getting your mixes right. Going to take work. I don't think your going to stroll up and hit it straight off the bat. If you can, power to your elbow.
One of the secrets to method is accuracy. If you can cast consistently and accurately at 150 no probs. The other secret is getting your mixes right. Going to take work. I don't think your going to stroll up and hit it straight off the bat. If you can, power to your elbow.
In reply to Post #4
Is there any that you can recommend?
Optimum casting weight for my rods is 4.25 - 4.5oz so I was thinking a 3oz method feeder, wrap it in my Hnv paste so it draws the fish in and stays on a long time as I would prob try just leaving it out there.. its tmmore to do with getting a tangle free supple small hookbait at range with a small bit of attraction without spodding.. it's the spodding at that range that I struggle with. I can get s pva bag out there but if I miss the spot and have to recast it's a pain in the arse even with pretied bags as it can take 4 or 5 casts sometimes to get it right... just trying to be different to everyone else.
Is there any that you can recommend?
Optimum casting weight for my rods is 4.25 - 4.5oz so I was thinking a 3oz method feeder, wrap it in my Hnv paste so it draws the fish in and stays on a long time as I would prob try just leaving it out there.. its tmmore to do with getting a tangle free supple small hookbait at range with a small bit of attraction without spodding.. it's the spodding at that range that I struggle with. I can get s pva bag out there but if I miss the spot and have to recast it's a pain in the arse even with pretied bags as it can take 4 or 5 casts sometimes to get it right... just trying to be different to everyone else.
In reply to Post #6
Single hookbaits get lost in the abyss.. I was thinking adjustable zigs but then the thought of using a light hooklink makes me shudder
Single hookbaits get lost in the abyss.. I was thinking adjustable zigs but then the thought of using a light hooklink makes me shudder
vitalin mixed with hot water sticks like **** to a blanket,get it right and that will stay on the method no problem and will break down nicely. I've used it on a method feeder but not fished at anywhere near that distance,but have mixed it stiff and brought it back in after a couple of hours and it still hadnt completely broke down.
In reply to Post #8
That's a good shout, I'm pretty confident my paste will stay on just need some recommendations on feeders that would be better for distance..
That's a good shout, I'm pretty confident my paste will stay on just need some recommendations on feeders that would be better for distance..
In reply to Post #9
Korda method feeders might be worth a look,you could mould the paste to create a shape like a distance lead
Korda method feeders might be worth a look,you could mould the paste to create a shape like a distance lead
In reply to Post #10
Yea not sure that will work as nothing to grip to on the front, it's big and flat at the front isnt it
Yea not sure that will work as nothing to grip to on the front, it's big and flat at the front isnt it
In reply to Post #11
It is but you can mould it onto the front still.Fox do one with bit more of a pointed front
It is but you can mould it onto the front still.Fox do one with bit more of a pointed front
Angling direct have a shed load of different types.
In reply to Post #13
Just use paste on a helicopter setup
Just use paste on a helicopter setup
In reply to Post #6
I think the Korda method feeders are the best ones available - not sure what sizes they do now though.
I think the Korda method feeders are the best ones available - not sure what sizes they do now though.
In reply to Post #1
Never fished quite that range, but when chucking a feeder 80/90 yards while match fishing I used to add weight to guru hybrid feeders and then put a small pva bag on the feeder, held in place with some pole elastic. As the bag melts the elastic pulls through it so it's unseen. Nice and quick to recast, literally seconds.
Never fished quite that range, but when chucking a feeder 80/90 yards while match fishing I used to add weight to guru hybrid feeders and then put a small pva bag on the feeder, held in place with some pole elastic. As the bag melts the elastic pulls through it so it's unseen. Nice and quick to recast, literally seconds.
I have used the method all year round for nearly 30 years and stopped using feeders well over 20 years ago, I just wrap the paste round a 2 or 2 1/2 oz inline lead. Using my torrix (hardly a casting tool) 100 yards is achievable with 15lb line straight through. Tend to fish just scolded pellet and it stays on well. With a proper rod, leader and lighter line no doubt it'd fly out there.
In reply to Post #17
Do you stick the hookbait into the paste moulded around the inline lead?
I guess the concern would be of the hookbait landing under the lead and not getting released in that instance.if you dont mould it inside do you not get tangles with an inline lead?
Do you stick the hookbait into the paste moulded around the inline lead?
I guess the concern would be of the hookbait landing under the lead and not getting released in that instance.if you dont mould it inside do you not get tangles with an inline lead?
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I use about a 5-6 inch braid rig and break the bottom half of the ball off the lead, pull it down so only about 2 inches of the rig remain then remake ball, meaning the rig is mostly inside the ball with just the 2 inches hanging. I don't get tangles this way and using a waiter I don't think it can end up under the ball, plus the first fish in the area will move it about anyway. Smaller fish tend to bash it about but the better ones seem to find the hook pretty quickly.
I use about a 5-6 inch braid rig and break the bottom half of the ball off the lead, pull it down so only about 2 inches of the rig remain then remake ball, meaning the rig is mostly inside the ball with just the 2 inches hanging. I don't get tangles this way and using a waiter I don't think it can end up under the ball, plus the first fish in the area will move it about anyway. Smaller fish tend to bash it about but the better ones seem to find the hook pretty quickly.
In reply to Post #19
Nice sounds good, I've got some 3oz inline distance leads that would be perfect for this that I will try
Nice sounds good, I've got some 3oz inline distance leads that would be perfect for this that I will try
In reply to Post #14
Yes good point I could keep the same set up but use smaller lead molded in paste.. the options are endless, dont know why more people dont use paste.. I grew up using great big lumps of trout pellet paste free lined in the margins.. fish used to go mad for it...
Hmm more ideas 😁
Yes good point I could keep the same set up but use smaller lead molded in paste.. the options are endless, dont know why more people dont use paste.. I grew up using great big lumps of trout pellet paste free lined in the margins.. fish used to go mad for it...
Hmm more ideas 😁
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Not that I would recommend them in silt but a round pear type lead in the bottom of a small bag may be worth a look?
Lead in the bottom of a small narrow bag, helicopter style braid hook length hooked into the bag, fill with micro pellets or stick mix etc, squirt of a good hydroslate. Squeeze the air out and taper the bag up your leader.
For method feeders you would need a hell of a rod, spod type for anything decent sized, I would say a method feeder you are looking at 120 max unless your a bit of a superman
Not that I would recommend them in silt but a round pear type lead in the bottom of a small bag may be worth a look?
Lead in the bottom of a small narrow bag, helicopter style braid hook length hooked into the bag, fill with micro pellets or stick mix etc, squirt of a good hydroslate. Squeeze the air out and taper the bag up your leader.
For method feeders you would need a hell of a rod, spod type for anything decent sized, I would say a method feeder you are looking at 120 max unless your a bit of a superman
In reply to Post #22
I agree with you about the distance. Anything over 100 yards in anything but the calmest conditions would be sporting with a method feeder.
I agree with you about the distance. Anything over 100 yards in anything but the calmest conditions would be sporting with a method feeder.
In reply to Post #22
I didnt want to have to both with pva as it's a pain to redo casts when wet.
I use a 3.75tc harrison trebuchet lite, I regularly cast with 4.5oz leads, as long as i get the weight right it should be pretty easy.
I didnt want to have to both with pva as it's a pain to redo casts when wet.
I use a 3.75tc harrison trebuchet lite, I regularly cast with 4.5oz leads, as long as i get the weight right it should be pretty easy.
In reply to Post #1
Make them from round inline distance leads. 2 rubber washers the same external diameter. 2p size for example but 2 different internal diameters. Slide the bigger down the lead till it bites and glue then repeat with the smaller of the 2 and glue into position.
Make them from round inline distance leads. 2 rubber washers the same external diameter. 2p size for example but 2 different internal diameters. Slide the bigger down the lead till it bites and glue then repeat with the smaller of the 2 and glue into position.
In reply to Post #24
You are forgetting a method ball of that weight would be much bigger than a lead, nowhere near as streamlined either. Long range and method fishing really don't go together very well at all
You are forgetting a method ball of that weight would be much bigger than a lead, nowhere near as streamlined either. Long range and method fishing really don't go together very well at all
In reply to Post #24
Have a look at this mate. They do one that moulds method style.
https://www.wolfint.com/product/ball-maker/
Have a look at this mate. They do one that moulds method style.
https://www.wolfint.com/product/ball-maker/
In reply to Post #27
Wow now that's a bit different - liking that!
Wow now that's a bit different - liking that!
In reply to Post #27
Jesus just seen price on ebay!
Jesus just seen price on ebay!
In reply to Post #29
Bargain £74.99
Bargain £74.99
In reply to Post #30
Jesus christ 
Jesus christ
In reply to Post #31
Doesnt bode well for the alarms eh lads? Jeez.
Doesnt bode well for the alarms eh lads? Jeez.
I'd want a big salty pair in a sack for that money.
In reply to Post #31
It looks well made, and normally I can try to justify price but 74.99 is insane for a ball maker, for fishing it's just over engineered, would like to see a cheaper version put together.. if it was around 25quid I might be tempted ..
It looks well made, and normally I can try to justify price but 74.99 is insane for a ball maker, for fishing it's just over engineered, would like to see a cheaper version put together.. if it was around 25quid I might be tempted ..
In reply to Post #34
Completely agree mate.
Completely agree mate.
In reply to Post #34
Nash do/did a set of ball makers
https://www.nashtackle.co.uk/products/view/ball-maker
Nash do/did a set of ball makers
https://www.nashtackle.co.uk/products/view/ball-maker
In reply to Post #36
You'd do well to get them 150 yards mate!
You'd do well to get them 150 yards mate!
Fox paste bomb, in-line and swivel models
Please give the plastic corn a wide berth, especially on a dedicated long distance outfit
Please give the plastic corn a wide berth, especially on a dedicated long distance outfit
In reply to Post #37
They do them up to around 60 mm so that will weigh a fair amount.
Balance it up with the right kit and technique and it “COULD”be achievable
They do them up to around 60 mm so that will weigh a fair amount.
Balance it up with the right kit and technique and it “COULD”be achievable
In reply to Post #39
Dunno mate. I don't think anything that doesn't go round the lead method style could make anywhere near 150 due to drag?
Dunno mate. I don't think anything that doesn't go round the lead method style could make anywhere near 150 due to drag?
In reply to Post #40
Agreed. Maybe Terry Edmonds could do it, not sure he'd recommend it to anyone though lol
Agreed. Maybe Terry Edmonds could do it, not sure he'd recommend it to anyone though lol
In reply to Post #41
Might change tack on this instead of using a method feeder is go the other way... simple.. fluoro leader, running rig and fluoro hooklink on a D rig.
I have a cunning plan for baiting differently though which will take a lot of effort but something they wont have seen b4
Might change tack on this instead of using a method feeder is go the other way... simple.. fluoro leader, running rig and fluoro hooklink on a D rig.
I have a cunning plan for baiting differently though which will take a lot of effort but something they wont have seen b4
In reply to Post #42
4.5 oz 150yds I hope your allowed to use a shock leader.
Also if you can constantly hit 150yds you should be able to hit the spot close enough.
4.5 oz 150yds I hope your allowed to use a shock leader.
Also if you can constantly hit 150yds you should be able to hit the spot close enough.
In reply to Post #43
Yup using a shockleader. No fishing for a while now
What I need to do is practice getting the spod further. 38wraps without wind is about my limit with the spod at the moment. With a wind behind 40 wraps.
Nearing on 170 with a wind behind with the rod.
Unbelievable watching a guy casting a spod 210 yards consistently on the lake... crazy mad
Yup using a shockleader. No fishing for a while now
What I need to do is practice getting the spod further. 38wraps without wind is about my limit with the spod at the moment. With a wind behind 40 wraps.
Nearing on 170 with a wind behind with the rod.
Unbelievable watching a guy casting a spod 210 yards consistently on the lake... crazy mad
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