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Freezing stove not working properly ?? (45 posts / 2,681 views)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #1 11 Feb 2020 14:26
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Seen lots of suggestions peeing on it and sleeping with it hand wamer etc etc

and as we all know the gas Can covers DONT WORK AT ALL
Sooo
if your struggling in the winter with butane gas not working due to freezing conditions its well worth keeping a silicon wrist band and a strip of copper roof flashing in your bag

It is the very best solution IMO it is explained and demonstrated in the video its very Simple !....

LINKY POO
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #2 11 Feb 2020 15:16
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Great idea but surely that only works with a 'stove on top of the canister' set up, or am I missing something?
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #3 11 Feb 2020 15:20
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yes your right but a lot of people use those type for overnight sessions etc
Notts485
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Post #4 11 Feb 2020 18:27
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In reply to Post #3
Go back to a Coleman.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #5 11 Feb 2020 19:21
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I have 6 Coleman 1lb bottles I refill and an adapter I can any stove on and of course a few petrol stoves

mate I just posted it simply to help people ( after I saw a guy on the bank struggling to boil a kettle using a Lixada Mini Gas Stove
framey framey
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Post #6 11 Feb 2020 19:22
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An adaptor to fill small disposable bottles ?
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #7 11 Feb 2020 19:29
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framey framey
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Post #8 11 Feb 2020 20:00
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An adaptor from the say 7kg bottles down to those 1lb ones ?

audiguypaul audiguypaul
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Post #9 11 Feb 2020 20:00
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Be aware if you plan to refill the 1lb Coleman bottles that new ones need a mod to allow them to fill, Coleman must have caught on.
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #10 11 Feb 2020 20:02
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That's why mine doesn't refill then 🤔
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #11 11 Feb 2020 20:11
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not heard this one Paul ? have more detail my google search drew a blank
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #12 12 Feb 2020 07:47
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So long as you have the old one's Gerry you'll be alright. .
I had loads of the old ones as I have a coleman briefcase style double burner that worked off the 1lb bottles, when I first had it you could pick up 2x 1lb bottles up for a tenner from millets, it was a cracking bit of kit for two pots on the go at the same time and not overly large (bear in mind it was years before Fudgemonkey and their duel stove efforts), now your lucky if you can pick up 1 bottle for anywhere near a tenner otherwise I would still be using it.

COLEMAN FOLD N GO

The one in the link only paid about 30 quid for it when they first came out never knew there was an adapter for refilling them back then I used to recycle the bottles at the tip loads of them.

It looks like the newer bottles have changed but still a few of the older ones about might have to buy a couple of the old ones and keep them, do you have a link to the adapter please Gerry.
sherbert2 sherbert2
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Post #13 12 Feb 2020 08:40
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That will also explain why mine won't refill
Anyone know what to do
They have obviously stuck a valve inside the bottle to stop liquid flowing into it
sherbert2 sherbert2
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Post #14 12 Feb 2020 08:46
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Ive git the same Coleman burner ... Its brilliant if doing longer sessions
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #15 12 Feb 2020 09:56
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Luckily I have the old bottles and I have no problem filling
them however a mate of mine that lives too far away from me bought a refill adaptor on my recommendation and has had big problems then when Audioguy Paul mentioned you have to do a mod on the new bottles last night I jumped straight on the phone and asked him and sure enough he had just bought 2 new bottles !!!
I cant find anything on the net and waiting for Audioguy to help us out with the info ?


EXACTLY HOW I DO IT IN THIS VIDEO LINKY POO

IAN the adaptor I use to refill is cheapest from china if you dont mind waiting ? LINKY POO







oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #16 12 Feb 2020 10:08
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AND TO RUN you normal Bulin remote type of stove off a Coleman 1lb propane bottle

you use this converter LINKY POO

Old-Cornishman
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Post #17 12 Feb 2020 10:44
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I wonder if it's worth looking at a different manufacturer for the bottle.
Perhaps they haven't all put non return valves in theirs.
If it's the same as the larger ones, then there could well the same fitting on other small propane canisters.
I've never been involved in anything that small so you would need to check though.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #18 12 Feb 2020 10:48
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Cheers Gerry.
framey framey
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Post #19 12 Feb 2020 16:17
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I was looking for a hack to fill up the smaller cans lol
audiguypaul audiguypaul
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Post #20 12 Feb 2020 16:28
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There we go guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIzjIYivr_M&t=14s
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #21 12 Feb 2020 17:16
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Your excellent video LINKY POO
Thanks Paul
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #22 12 Feb 2020 17:34
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There's a company in the US Flameking that make a legit refillable canister better quality metal for about £15
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #23 12 Feb 2020 17:42
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GOT A LINK ? please m8
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #24 12 Feb 2020 18:05
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How do you post links on here 🤔

https://youtu.be/AKvxlhiKfFA
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 12 Feb 2020 19:22
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great idea but the propane tank they are using is completely different to ours so it wont fit ?
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #26 12 Feb 2020 21:05
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In reply to Post #25
The adaptor we use fits the reusable Bottle
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #28 12 Feb 2020 22:44
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I am not convinced !
as the one in the video has a white spot to line up to allow the air purge valve to work ? and if that wont work with our adaptor then it wont refill properly ?
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #29 13 Feb 2020 06:57
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We'll see my mates sending me one !!
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #30 13 Feb 2020 08:38
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In Winter just use a Coleman with Aspen fuel or do THIS
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #31 13 Feb 2020 12:05
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oh brilliant please can you let me know I will cross my fingers and toes for you lol

I have got in touch with the makers and asked them but still no reply as yet
Baitman Baitman
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Post #32 13 Feb 2020 12:25
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Coincidentally i have also just bought one of these, a few pence cheaper too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312872060105
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #33 13 Feb 2020 12:46
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On that subject I do know some people buy those long thin aerosol type gases you can get very cheap then use an adaptor to transfer them into the screw thread containers mainly people that dont like using the aerosol adaptor

they use this one LINKY POO
Baitman Baitman
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Post #34 13 Feb 2020 14:40
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Easier just to use the gas straight from the long can using one of these adaptors.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174127509031
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #35 13 Feb 2020 15:39
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Dave ffs lol if you read the post you would see the bit mainly people that dont like using the aerosol adaptor
Baitman Baitman
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Post #36 13 Feb 2020 16:49
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Ok
But i cannot understand why they would add another level of faffing.

Have you or anyone else tried to fill the coleman screw on camping cans (not the 1lb ones) with propane from a big cylinder.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #37 13 Feb 2020 23:16
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Yes lots of people do........................ but never put propane in it

NEVER EVER PUT PROPANE INTO A BUTANE CANISTER that can be very dangerous !

as a Butane gas Canister is only designed for the lower pressure of Butane

the pressure of 100% PROPANE GAS is 4 or 5 times greater than Butane OR butane propane mix


this makes the thin wall of a butane canister unreliable in some conditions if filled with Propane

wandle1 wandle1
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Post #38 14 Feb 2020 00:15
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Gentleman,....this is an interesting,enivigorating, and enlightened thread.

However, I'm going to cut to the chase why not just use a Trangia, the king of stoves,tried,tested and reliable in all conditions...

Some say ,can't light my trangia in cold weather....

I say,a poor workman blames his tools,to light a trangia in cold weather one dips a small leaf in meths burner,light leaf, drop leaf in burner,make tea,chill out...

Stop all this stress and go meths or bio..

Gas,is for.....well...gas lovers....🤔
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #39 14 Feb 2020 00:31
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in a word Variety mate

I got Trangia I got a 25 a 27 and a mini plus a couple more compact spirit burners
Petrol stoves Colemans I got 2 x double burners 2 x single burners
Gas propane Coleman perfect flow single a Blackcat Heater
Butane Cadac x 2...a low pressure and high pressure , .....Gaz Chef double burner ( I got propane regulators and butane depending on the time of year what I run them on )

Go system Zenith ......, Primus Gravity .....and 4 other old singles and one of the suitcase types

And I use most of them at one time or another as I like a change lol
And a Cobb Air with the Cobb kettle

But Adam like you I do love using the Trangia for the silence and simplicity
framey framey
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Post #40 14 Feb 2020 14:15
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Meths is for drinking lol
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #41 18 Feb 2020 11:17
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I PERFECTLY refilled 5 Coleman 1lb bottles this morning using this method
LINKY POO
suffokandy
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Post #42 18 Feb 2020 18:11
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Think Adam prefers the Bio Fuel...more eco friendly besides which you dont get that furry after taste
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #43 18 Feb 2020 19:59
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Anyway checkout Kernow Bushcraft on eBay....

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oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #44 19 Feb 2020 01:00
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Thanks Adam
those bags look great ordered one for the 25 and little one for the burner
as I had a paypal balance for ages after selling something so it was perfect
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #45 19 Feb 2020 09:24
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In reply to Post #44
I knew you'd like them mate..

I got 27 size coming,I also have a lovely 28 mini bag in supple leather made by Robbie,over in Ireland...

Gonna ask for a bespoke bag for mini UCO stove also

I don't have much kit,but what I do have ,I use all the time..
wandle1 wandle1
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Post #46 19 Feb 2020 11:39
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Its come,brilliant quality and service..



This for trangia users,.....get one of these😎,bags,proper bushcraft,and carpy looking...

Great stuff...!!
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