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Neewer version of Rhino Beam (42 posts / 6,475 views)
Crackers4Carp Crackers4Carp
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Post #1 20 Jun 2018 16:45
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Thinking about getting one of these to assist further with night shots. Assuming as they are made by an actual credible photography company that they may be better than Rhino's offering. Anyone given them a go?
chrisobrien1 chrisobrien1
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Post #2 20 Jun 2018 16:58
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In reply to Post #1
Google - Andoer 96 led light

It's the exact same model as the Rhino beam but half the price.
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #3 22 Jun 2018 08:22
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In reply to Post #2
You can find them on ebay for half the price again
Crackers4Carp Crackers4Carp
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Post #4 22 Jun 2018 09:03
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In reply to Post #1
Thanks for your replies lads. I am referring to a specific model made by 'Neewer' you know the same guys that make intervalometers etc just wondered if they were any good.
woland
Posts: 319
Post #5 22 Jun 2018 15:54
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In reply to Post #1
Just use a flash. Beams are supposed to be used for video and make pictures look washed out. If your camera doesn't have a flash or your struggling to focus - these not only make focusing easy but will also mean your pictures are 100x better
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #6 22 Jun 2018 20:32
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In reply to Post #4
Neewer and andoer seem to do the same stuff, and a lot of it can be found on ebay unbranded cheaper.

I'd agree with the previous poster, a flash is a better option.
Godox do some great flashes for little money (also do led lights)
You can even find certain godox flashes rebranded as neewer, pixapro hahnel.....

I wouldn't worry about brand names on cheap led lights
vinniecole vinniecole
Posts: 4,868
Post #7 23 Jun 2018 09:30
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In reply to Post #1
My night shots are not bad for the gear I use, (canon 550 and nifty fifty) but I'm going to (when I eventually catch one) mount my rhino beam on a tripod close to the fish and use that in conjunction with my built in camera flash. As I like my pics portrait and with a prime I'm quite far away from the camera so won't be washed out
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #8 23 Jun 2018 09:41
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Not familiar with these Rhino beam type of things.
What do they do, do they light up the area so you can see to take a photo or do they do the job of a flash gun and give a burst of flash.
If it's the former does it give out enough light that a flash is not required

I know very little about photography
Superterrorizer Superterrorizer
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Post #9 23 Jun 2018 10:47
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In reply to Post #3
Just bought one on eBay for 8 quid including postage from china.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #10 23 Jun 2018 11:07
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In reply to Post #9
Have you got the item number?
Superterrorizer Superterrorizer
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Post #11 23 Jun 2018 11:10
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In reply to Post #10
152924247107

Search for Rhino Beam on youtube to learn more.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #12 23 Jun 2018 11:44
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In reply to Post #11
Cheers
vinniecole vinniecole
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Post #13 23 Jun 2018 13:19
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In reply to Post #8
It's basically a rectangle with loads of leds inside it. You can have it at varying brightness but it's just that. Basically the same as a led workman's light. Depends how close you are. I would say if you have a kit lense and take pics horizontally youl only need to be a couple of feet from the camera, so mounting it in the mount on top of the camera should be ok. Doubt it will be better then a normal flash though. What lense do you have and how do you take your pics?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #14 23 Jun 2018 13:35
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In reply to Post #13
I normally get a mate to take a picture on my old G5 without problems.
Just wondering if I need one of these or trying to cure a problem that doesn't exist?
vinniecole vinniecole
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Post #15 23 Jun 2018 15:11
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In reply to Post #14
Exactly mate. If your pics are good without it I wouldn't waste your money
CaptainDisaster
Posts: 42
Post #16 24 Jun 2018 08:35
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In reply to Post #15
I have my Rhino Beam mounted on a bankstick near my dSLR on a tripod with a remote release - the dSLR setup with a 10 second delay timer and using the built in flash.

Whilst I wouldn't rely it on the Rhino Beam soley for light, it does give a nice bit of fill-in, stops red-eye, and throws plenty of light on the subject for manoeuvring the fish about in the dark.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #17 30 Aug 2020 16:42
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How are people using the light. Do you use it to light up the fish as well as using your camera flash or do you solely just use the the light it amits and no flash
Hadrian
Posts: 380
Post #18 30 Aug 2020 17:28
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In reply to Post #17
I have one on e bankstick at 18” off the ground aimed generally at me and another on a mini tripod aimed at the fish, one either side of the camera and use the inbuilt flash to add fill. They are the cheaper ones though about £8 off eBay
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #19 30 Aug 2020 18:07
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In reply to Post #18
So a total of four then?
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #20 30 Aug 2020 18:10
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I know I'm probably odd but I personally don't like the modern overlit washed-out night shots that try to look like daylight, prefer the atmosphere of the flash, I just stick my headtorch on the tripod facing me so I can see what i'm doing and helps the camera focus
Hadrian
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Post #21 30 Aug 2020 18:18
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In reply to Post #19
As stated 2, one either side of the camera, always with something behind the subject thick bush/foliage etc
They are variable as is the flash output ten minutes messing about to dial in the settings really is worth while in the long run
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #22 31 Aug 2020 08:10
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In reply to Post #20
I doubt a rhino beam type light would give you that look, you'd need 4 of them to even get close to the output of a popup flash. The floodlight aspect for unhooking, camera focussing/framing is the main benefit imo, and with the price on amazon with rechargeable battery its pretty good value really
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #23 31 Aug 2020 10:01
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In reply to Post #22
Oh right, might get one then

Mind you my RM bivvy light would probably do a similar job
duggs
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Post #24 31 Aug 2020 10:37
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In reply to Post #23
Yes it would
These lights are around £15 Inc battery on amazon, so they're good value if you need a light. Also being bigger and less bright it's easier on the eye than a headtorch blasting at you
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 1 Sep 2020 13:23
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I got a Chinese copy off eBay loads on there cheap as chips
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #26 1 Sep 2020 14:40
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So you have a Rhino beam mounted on a tripod and a friend takes a picture but there's a lot of glare on the fish, how do you get rid of that? Just turn down the brightness, use the yellow diffuser or something else?
Camera is a old Canon G5 and as I know nothing about cameras I set it to Auto.
woody71
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Post #27 1 Sep 2020 15:21
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In reply to Post #26
Not sure if it solves your problem but i put the the rhino beam on a storm rod and have it higher than camera angled down towards the fish, mine is on the white light about halfway.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #28 1 Sep 2020 15:32
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In reply to Post #27
I'll give it a go
Anyone tried the yellow filter, I'm not sure what it's for.
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #29 1 Sep 2020 16:52
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In reply to Post #28
It's just a corrective filter to use with indoor lighting, no relevance for fishing shots other than a back cover
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,089
Post #30 1 Sep 2020 17:11
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In reply to Post #29


Looks like all I need to do is turn down the brightness, that'll be try and error but to get me started how bright?
Only just enough so that the person taking the picture can see me and the fish and let the flash do the work or a bit brighter to help the flash out.
Told you I'm not a photographer
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #31 1 Sep 2020 17:24
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In reply to Post #30
If your also using a flash move the led to the side, between square on and 45°, it'll still serve its purpose and if you have the head that side, and also turn your head towards it a bit it should give a nice highlight and a bit more contrast on the fish

It's worth having a practice in the garden, a wet 2L drinks bottle is smaller than what we want to catch but will show where you'll get glaring reflections
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #32 1 Sep 2020 17:29
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In reply to Post #31

Should I consider not using the flash?
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #33 1 Sep 2020 17:36
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In reply to Post #32
Try it and see mate, I'm not keen on it as the shots end up grainy through not having enough light, and colours look off to me. If I didn't have a load of lighting equipment anyway I could make it work with a couple of them
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #34 1 Sep 2020 17:39
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In reply to Post #33
Yes I think it's down to trying and seeing now but at least now I've got a few pointers
Thanks
Rai
Posts: 292
Post #35 7 Sep 2020 21:42
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Can anyone help at all? I use an iPhone 11 with front camera for daytime shots using a timer app that way I can see the photo I am taking. I am reasonable happy with these

I've got a rhino beam and a camera adaptor and have tried them at night time. The rhino sits just above the iPhone on the adaptor.

The shots come out bleached and far too bright and my face and hands look bright red. It is as if the beam is too bright but can't see that I can turn it down

any ideas?

Cheers
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #36 7 Sep 2020 21:59
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In reply to Post #35
Is the background still dark?

If so, see if there is a camera setting for spot metering, this should see you and the fish looking decent but the background will now be very dark
Rai
Posts: 292
Post #37 7 Sep 2020 22:20
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I'm using an iPhone front camera so limited settings. The bushes behind are all light
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #38 7 Sep 2020 22:26
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In reply to Post #35
Put it in portrait mode but front facing, I have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and I use the front camera for my self takes. Never had a problem and get brilliant pictures with it bud, I use the Trakker light but a bit further up away from my phone so it doesn't effect the photo and gets rods of all the shadows
Rai
Posts: 292
Post #39 7 Sep 2020 22:31
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Thanks I'll try that
How do you check that you are all in frame, do you have it a bit further away?
Rai
Posts: 292
Post #40 7 Sep 2020 22:33
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Sorry just realised you said front camera. Do you use timer an just shoot one shot then?
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #41 8 Sep 2020 06:37
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In reply to Post #37
Try and get close to a thick background, and try not to have any sky in the shot. Also moving the light further away will help, having the distance between you and the light around triple the distance between you and the background

I just checked and I can change the metering modes on my huawei phone
Rai
Posts: 292
Post #42 8 Sep 2020 07:04
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Thanks chaps

I'll give that a try

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