In reply to Post #44
If people really do that then i sympathise with you i for one certainly wouldnt and initially would ask if it was ok for me to stroke your dog then if ok would make a fuss of it, like i would with more than 90% of the dogs i meet regardless of breed.
I don't think staffys have a bad reputation of attacking people certainly all the ones i have seen haven't shown any of those traits, i have seen some that have been dog aggressive possibly in part to the terrier in them but not to people
The problem is that regardless to number of bites of certain breeds the more severe bites or attacks even sadly fatalities have been from more powerful dogs often including larger bull breeds granted these aren't staffys but all bull breeds have been tainted in the public eye and by media etc because of this.
If people really do that then i sympathise with you i for one certainly wouldnt and initially would ask if it was ok for me to stroke your dog then if ok would make a fuss of it, like i would with more than 90% of the dogs i meet regardless of breed.
I don't think staffys have a bad reputation of attacking people certainly all the ones i have seen haven't shown any of those traits, i have seen some that have been dog aggressive possibly in part to the terrier in them but not to people
The problem is that regardless to number of bites of certain breeds the more severe bites or attacks even sadly fatalities have been from more powerful dogs often including larger bull breeds granted these aren't staffys but all bull breeds have been tainted in the public eye and by media etc because of this.
In reply to Post #44
That may well be true but that's simply because there are far more labs around, they are the country's most popular dog. And, labs don't kill people, bull breeds do.
I don't avoid staffs but I avoid bully types, just ain't worth it.
That may well be true but that's simply because there are far more labs around, they are the country's most popular dog. And, labs don't kill people, bull breeds do.
I don't avoid staffs but I avoid bully types, just ain't worth it.
In reply to Post #47
I was going to type the same thing
I've no personal issue with any breed thats well trained and has a responsible owner but it's hard to judge that a lot of the time, especially instantly, so for that reason I'm always wary with my Dachshund around larger dogs, especially strong muscle jawed breeds. I will pick him up if in doubt as the consequences don't bare thinking about, which is a shame as it breeds insecurity in him.
Another reason I pick him up is that if another dog tries to bare over or dominate him he stands his ground and will attempt to strike 1st if he's in any doubt. I've often had comments from other owners of bigger dogs when I pick him up, "you didn't have to pick him up, don't worry mines freindly/wouldn't hurt a fly" that sort of thing. They often look confused when I say "I'm not worried about yours I'm worried about mine". Rigid none waggy tails tend to give you a heads up when to be cautious of a dominant/confident dog.
I was going to type the same thing
I've no personal issue with any breed thats well trained and has a responsible owner but it's hard to judge that a lot of the time, especially instantly, so for that reason I'm always wary with my Dachshund around larger dogs, especially strong muscle jawed breeds. I will pick him up if in doubt as the consequences don't bare thinking about, which is a shame as it breeds insecurity in him.
Another reason I pick him up is that if another dog tries to bare over or dominate him he stands his ground and will attempt to strike 1st if he's in any doubt. I've often had comments from other owners of bigger dogs when I pick him up, "you didn't have to pick him up, don't worry mines freindly/wouldn't hurt a fly" that sort of thing. They often look confused when I say "I'm not worried about yours I'm worried about mine". Rigid none waggy tails tend to give you a heads up when to be cautious of a dominant/confident dog.
In reply to Post #29
Border for me too such characters and excellent ratters which comes in handy
Border for me too such characters and excellent ratters which comes in handy
In reply to Post #48
I take a wide berth because my golden retriever is an irritant and is that excited he just annoys other dogs!
I take a wide berth because my golden retriever is an irritant and is that excited he just annoys other dogs!
In reply to Post #50
How old is your swamp collie?
How old is your swamp collie?
In reply to Post #51
Haha, 18 months so still daft as a brush
Haha, 18 months so still daft as a brush
Lab for me, I think the key is to get them used to going with you whatever breed you take. If you only take them occasionally it can take them 24 hours to settle into it and get used to all the different smells, noises etc.
I love all dogs and have 2 schnauzers- one is a bloody nightmare around other dogs the other is brilliant. I don't trust MY dog around others but especially bull breeds, not because they are bad or untrained but because mine would try the patience of a saint and in the end I believe a bull type dog would think - I did warn you. So my nightmare dog is always on a lead so it winds me up when other dogs run over to ‘play'.
I have known many stafffies and all have been brilliant - however they are muscle and can be very protective - I believe if any bull breed were trainable the Police would use them, they don't as there is always a chance that others push the dog into a state of rage that seems to be trainable only with Alsatian's.
My dogs have never bitten anyone - but I also know 99% that even if one ever did they are simply not powerful enough to kill - like baby goats!
It's a shame about peoples perceptions of breeds and very true that it's all down to the owners. Just my personal take and I like nothing better than any dog when fishing saying hello and ish I could take mine, but the stress would kill me. Loves people hates anything non human that moves!
I have known many stafffies and all have been brilliant - however they are muscle and can be very protective - I believe if any bull breed were trainable the Police would use them, they don't as there is always a chance that others push the dog into a state of rage that seems to be trainable only with Alsatian's.
My dogs have never bitten anyone - but I also know 99% that even if one ever did they are simply not powerful enough to kill - like baby goats!
It's a shame about peoples perceptions of breeds and very true that it's all down to the owners. Just my personal take and I like nothing better than any dog when fishing saying hello and ish I could take mine, but the stress would kill me. Loves people hates anything non human that moves!
In reply to Post #52
Another year or so then.
Another year or so then.
I have a staff and an old Tyme bulldog the staff is so people friendly it's stupid she would live with anyone she didn't even. Know but my old Tyme is a nightmare got him at 4 months and think he has been abused as a pup he is so nervous of everything and everyone
Won't let him out around kids and always on edge with new visitors around him he is dog aggressive fine as long as they don't come challenging him but with everyone at home he is so daft it's unbelievable the staff is half his size and twice his age but she is the boss if he wants her to play he barks at us and she batters him it's so funny he knows what's going to happen and just does it old Tyme bulldogs are normally so placid but he's a pain my daughters one is completely different
Won't let him out around kids and always on edge with new visitors around him he is dog aggressive fine as long as they don't come challenging him but with everyone at home he is so daft it's unbelievable the staff is half his size and twice his age but she is the boss if he wants her to play he barks at us and she batters him it's so funny he knows what's going to happen and just does it old Tyme bulldogs are normally so placid but he's a pain my daughters one is completely different
Slightly on but off topic. Yesterday we took the dog for a walk on the river Weaver and we saw our 1st Americal XL bully. Absolutely stunning, very well bahaved, never realised how heavy they look or how big they are, he must have sat around 1m maybe 1m+ to head height.
It's all down to the correct type of dog and training
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In reply to Post #57
Amazing dogs! My girl has bully in her and she is fantastic!
Amazing dogs! My girl has bully in her and she is fantastic!