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Great thread and essential forum reading
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Well, that was a bit 'Old School'... I fish occasionally with antique tackle just for the break from the norm...
Went fishing this evening for Crucians with my recently refurbished 1932 Allcocks Wizard 11ft cane rod, Aerial Centrepin reel and 4lb line, a cork bodied quill float and size 14 hook with sidehooked sweetcorn... Had Crucians, which was nice... But just spent half an hour landing a 13lb Mirror carp.... It must have made about six or seven decent runs.. and using my finger on the rim of the 'pin as a clutch was a bit dicey...
Not exactly a fish to write home about, but great fun on that tackle....arms hurt a bit though...
Does anyone else fish 'Chris Yates style' for a change from the normal carp tackle....? Its really worth a go sometime.... I'll bring some vintage stuff to the Social if anyone fancies a go.. Its not easy though...
Went fishing this evening for Crucians with my recently refurbished 1932 Allcocks Wizard 11ft cane rod, Aerial Centrepin reel and 4lb line, a cork bodied quill float and size 14 hook with sidehooked sweetcorn... Had Crucians, which was nice... But just spent half an hour landing a 13lb Mirror carp.... It must have made about six or seven decent runs.. and using my finger on the rim of the 'pin as a clutch was a bit dicey...
Not exactly a fish to write home about, but great fun on that tackle....arms hurt a bit though...
Does anyone else fish 'Chris Yates style' for a change from the normal carp tackle....? Its really worth a go sometime.... I'll bring some vintage stuff to the Social if anyone fancies a go.. Its not easy though...
In reply to Post #2
i would love to have a go sounds really good fun
any pictures of your old school tackle would love to have a look
i would love to have a go sounds really good fun
any pictures of your old school tackle would love to have a look
In reply to Post #2
Did you wear your deerstalker Bill Seriously I have used my palacona cane 9ft 6" hardy halford knockabout fly rod this year for carp off the top and when they're cruising just unde the surface on the runs water . Great fun these 4 to 10lbers on the fly . 
Did you wear your deerstalker Bill
Seriously I have used my palacona cane 9ft 6" hardy halford knockabout fly rod this year for carp off the top and when they're cruising just unde the surface on the runs water . Great fun these 4 to 10lbers on the fly .
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Top stuff! I rarely use anything else these days. Picked up a Richard Walker MKIV off Ebay recently and have been using it with a pin, took 2 out of the margins yesterday evening, 14.2 and 17.4, under a float with a lump of luncheon meat. Bill put me onto a chap Paul Cook who specialises in refurbishing cane rods (thanks Bill), looking at getting mine done to get it back to original (needs a new tip section and some eyes replacing, etc.) wont be cheap (somewhere in the region of £250-£300) but if looked after should outlive me, like it did the last owner!
Top stuff! I rarely use anything else these days. Picked up a Richard Walker MKIV off Ebay recently and have been using it with a pin, took 2 out of the margins yesterday evening, 14.2 and 17.4, under a float with a lump of luncheon meat. Bill put me onto a chap Paul Cook who specialises in refurbishing cane rods (thanks Bill), looking at getting mine done to get it back to original (needs a new tip section and some eyes replacing, etc.) wont be cheap (somewhere in the region of £250-£300) but if looked after should outlive me, like it did the last owner!
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Sound excellent Bill - I've been on the lookout for a sensibly priced pin for quite a while. I love float fishing regardless of tackle but even more on a soft through action rod. I'd love to have a go with yours if the offers still open at the social?
Do you guys who use them not worry about damaging them , after all it's not like you can walk into a shop and just buy another? I'd be terrified.
Sound excellent Bill - I've been on the lookout for a sensibly priced pin for quite a while. I love float fishing regardless of tackle but even more on a soft through action rod. I'd love to have a go with yours if the offers still open at the social?
Do you guys who use them not worry about damaging them , after all it's not like you can walk into a shop and just buy another? I'd be terrified.
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like to fish the canals useing my old grice&young and mk4,landed some lumps too! great fun!
like to fish the canals useing my old grice&young and mk4,landed some lumps too! great fun!
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Have a look at the Okuma range of pins, their Sheffield is a lovely looking smooth running reel, costs about £100 new. I'd say you'd have to pay around £300 for a new English reel of equivalent quality. I don't worry about using old gear, you can get it repaired if the unthinkable happens! Like I mentioned in my previous post, my MKIV Richard Walker could well be going in for a refurb (including a new tip section), only other option is to hang it on a wall and look at it, doesn't seem right to me, should be bending into fish!
Have a look at the Okuma range of pins, their Sheffield is a lovely looking smooth running reel, costs about £100 new. I'd say you'd have to pay around £300 for a new English reel of equivalent quality. I don't worry about using old gear, you can get it repaired if the unthinkable happens! Like I mentioned in my previous post, my MKIV Richard Walker could well be going in for a refurb (including a new tip section), only other option is to hang it on a wall and look at it, doesn't seem right to me, should be bending into fish!
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Surely though if it's repaired to the extent of replacing sections then its not the same any more?
What I mean is over time you 'could' end up with very little of the original piece left? That's what would worry me - not that am in a postion to own anything like that at the moment.
I've looked at the Sheffield but to be honest I was hioping to pick up an old midland or similar - however I'm coming to the conclusion that they dont exist at what I consider to be a sensible price!!
Surely though if it's repaired to the extent of replacing sections then its not the same any more?
What I mean is over time you 'could' end up with very little of the original piece left? That's what would worry me - not that am in a postion to own anything like that at the moment.
I've looked at the Sheffield but to be honest I was hioping to pick up an old midland or similar - however I'm coming to the conclusion that they dont exist at what I consider to be a sensible price!!
In reply to Post #39
You can get a decent centrepin on eBay for a reasonable amount.
Look out for any of the Allcocks Aerials if you want something a little bit special (white handles and eight vent holes in good nick will cost a bit though!).
You can get an Aerial Match centrepin for around £100 and as long as it is in good condition will be fine to use for a few years and if you ever sell it, it WILL go up in price....
The 'Flick 'em' reels, also from Allcocks are worth looking at and then there are the Aerial Populars and so on which go for much less. All are investments to some degree or another and you will be very unlucky if you losre money if/when you sell it a few years later.
Compared to modern tackle which is worth half what you paid fo it a day later, antique tackle is a real investment and such a pleasure as well.
As far as replacing top sections is concerned... don't worry about it. They were often replaced during their active fishing life anyway... Don't replace a butt section though... Thats the 'real' rod and the bit that gives it its value...
If ou are looking at re-furbishing a MkIV, let me know what you have written on the label for the address after the B James and Son bit... That will help age it and give a better idea of it's real value. I can then say whether it is worth spending the money... 
You can get a decent centrepin on eBay for a reasonable amount.
Look out for any of the Allcocks Aerials if you want something a little bit special (white handles and eight vent holes in good nick will cost a bit though!).
You can get an Aerial Match centrepin for around £100 and as long as it is in good condition will be fine to use for a few years and if you ever sell it, it WILL go up in price....
The 'Flick 'em' reels, also from Allcocks are worth looking at and then there are the Aerial Populars and so on which go for much less. All are investments to some degree or another and you will be very unlucky if you losre money if/when you sell it a few years later.
Compared to modern tackle which is worth half what you paid fo it a day later, antique tackle is a real investment and such a pleasure as well.
As far as replacing top sections is concerned... don't worry about it. They were often replaced during their active fishing life anyway... Don't replace a butt section though...
Thats the 'real' rod and the bit that gives it its value...If ou are looking at re-furbishing a MkIV, let me know what you have written on the label for the address after the B James and Son bit... That will help age it and give a better idea of it's real value. I can then say whether it is worth spending the money...
In reply to Post #40
I use a Chapman 500 and old Mitchell for a majority of my surface fishing. Nothing like using split cane as you can feel the rod bending right through the handle.
for close range stalking I use a G L Brandreth rod and Trudex pin - again great fun and your first decent fish on a pin is one you'll always remember.
I have found that using such responsive tackle only enhances my overall carp fishing experience.
For you carbon fiends out there - try a split cane rod. I promise you a different experience and one you wont forget.
GG
I use a Chapman 500 and old Mitchell for a majority of my surface fishing. Nothing like using split cane as you can feel the rod bending right through the handle.
for close range stalking I use a G L Brandreth rod and Trudex pin - again great fun and your first decent fish on a pin is one you'll always remember.
I have found that using such responsive tackle only enhances my overall carp fishing experience.
For you carbon fiends out there - try a split cane rod. I promise you a different experience and one you wont forget.
GG
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Surely though if it's repaired to the extent of replacing sections then its not the same any more?
in the words of trigger "ive had this broom for 12 years.........6 new heads & 5 handles....."
or words to that effect......
Surely though if it's repaired to the extent of replacing sections then its not the same any more?
in the words of trigger "ive had this broom for 12 years.........6 new heads & 5 handles....."
or words to that effect......
In reply to Post #42
Read my mind Brian..
Read my mind Brian..
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For you carbon fiends out there - try a split cane rod. I promise you a different experience and one you wont forget.
tried one for flyfishing, lent to me by a good friend who swore that after trying it i would sell a kidney to raise the money to buy one........
one mornings fishing on the Test, dozens of missed grayling & a severe case of tennis elbow, i had to concede.........that the best thing about split cane was the day they invented glass fibre rods!
too heavy, too soft & too much effort to look after them!
i certainly wont forget that experience, neither will i repeat it!
For you carbon fiends out there - try a split cane rod. I promise you a different experience and one you wont forget.
tried one for flyfishing, lent to me by a good friend who swore that after trying it i would sell a kidney to raise the money to buy one........
one mornings fishing on the Test, dozens of missed grayling & a severe case of tennis elbow, i had to concede.........that the best thing about split cane was the day they invented glass fibre rods!
too heavy, too soft & too much effort to look after them!
i certainly wont forget that experience, neither will i repeat it!
In reply to Post #46
Birchman...You have no soul....
(For thise asking, I would have posted some pictures by now... but it is pouring out there and I'm not getting wet on the run to the tackle shed...
I'll try later... )
Birchman...You have no soul....
(For thise asking, I would have posted some pictures by now... but it is pouring out there and I'm not getting wet on the run to the tackle shed...
I'll try later...
)