Hi
I am pricing up some floor tiles and wanted to know the cost on average to lay per m2 so I don't get ripped off.
Cost includes everything except the price of the floor tile as I will be buying these myself.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.
I am pricing up some floor tiles and wanted to know the cost on average to lay per m2 so I don't get ripped off.
Cost includes everything except the price of the floor tile as I will be buying these myself.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.
In reply to Post #1
This will depend on a few factors.
Does the concrete base need a self levelling screed before hand?
What type of tiles, if they are the rustic farm house type ones which are different thicknesses they these may be more expensive to install as they take a bit more messing about.
How big is the area? ( If its say 5m2 the fitter will still want a full days pay even though it may only take 5 hrs which will increase the m2 rate).
Is the room square with no circular or raking walls, again these will take longer to install and thus impact the m2 rate.
If you have a 100m2 square room the m2 rate will be a lot less that a 20m2 room with circular walls etc.
This will depend on a few factors.
Does the concrete base need a self levelling screed before hand?
What type of tiles, if they are the rustic farm house type ones which are different thicknesses they these may be more expensive to install as they take a bit more messing about.
How big is the area? ( If its say 5m2 the fitter will still want a full days pay even though it may only take 5 hrs which will increase the m2 rate).
Is the room square with no circular or raking walls, again these will take longer to install and thus impact the m2 rate.
If you have a 100m2 square room the m2 rate will be a lot less that a 20m2 room with circular walls etc.
In reply to Post #2
Good points to be fair.
70m2 area.
No self levelling needed
Tiles are porcelain 800 x 800
Room is rectangular
Good points to be fair.
70m2 area.
No self levelling needed
Tiles are porcelain 800 x 800
Room is rectangular
In reply to Post #1
In London labour only 57 sq metre for cash including grout and adhesive on a prepared surface.
That's for 600x600 but for that you get a first class job.
That was for a small job of 20 sq metre.
I'd imagine for a bigger job those prices would come down .
People nowadays don't want to take up a trade, rather go to uni, do a silly degree and get in debt. Thats why those that take a trade command those type of prices.
In London labour only 57 sq metre for cash including grout and adhesive on a prepared surface.
That's for 600x600 but for that you get a first class job.
That was for a small job of 20 sq metre.
I'd imagine for a bigger job those prices would come down .
People nowadays don't want to take up a trade, rather go to uni, do a silly degree and get in debt. Thats why those that take a trade command those type of prices.
In reply to Post #4
Sorry what was the cost mate?
Sorry what was the cost mate?
In reply to Post #1
Floor tiles are easy to lay, why not just lay them yourself?
Floor tiles are easy to lay, why not just lay them yourself?
In reply to Post #6
I could never do it mate.
Don't even want to attempt it to be honest.
I could never do it mate.
Don't even want to attempt it to be honest.
To lay them I could recommend plenty of absolute t0553r5 mate..... 
In reply to Post #5
Not being a tiler It's so hard to say, i guess the rate drops for the more square meters you have and the complexity of the job, such as cutting around obstacles
I don't think he does tiling but Ralph69 might have an idea of tradesmen rates
Someone I know has been given this quote for 30 sq metres.
Seems a lot to me.
LABOUR
Floor tiling £1800 (£60 per m2)
Latexing £255 (£8.50 per m2)
Matting £195 (£6.50 per m2
MATERIALS
Adhesive and grout £200
Latex and primer £250
How much have you been quoted
Not being a tiler It's so hard to say, i guess the rate drops for the more square meters you have and the complexity of the job, such as cutting around obstacles
I don't think he does tiling but Ralph69 might have an idea of tradesmen rates
Someone I know has been given this quote for 30 sq metres.
Seems a lot to me.
LABOUR
Floor tiling £1800 (£60 per m2)
Latexing £255 (£8.50 per m2)
Matting £195 (£6.50 per m2
MATERIALS
Adhesive and grout £200
Latex and primer £250
How much have you been quoted
In reply to Post #9
Thanks.
I have been quoted various prices starting from £2500 right up to £6000 for 70m2
That includes everything except tiles.
Thanks.
I have been quoted various prices starting from £2500 right up to £6000 for 70m2
That includes everything except tiles.
In reply to Post #5
Looks like £57 a m2
Looks like £57 a m2
In reply to Post #11
Thanks mate.
I was reading it wrong
Thanks mate.
I was reading it wrong
In reply to Post #9
Wow. I'm in the wrong trade.. it's so easy too
Wow. I'm in the wrong trade.. it's so easy too
In reply to Post #13
There is certainly plenty of money to be made.
I can usually turn my hand to most things but tiling is definitely not for me.
There is certainly plenty of money to be made.
I can usually turn my hand to most things but tiling is definitely not for me.
In reply to Post #14
Tbh I thought that too, but during the COVID lockdown thought Id give it a go and did a good job, since then I've done a few bits and got better and quicker each time. It's really not hard at all as long as you take your time and follow the old rule of measure twice cut once
Tbh I thought that too, but during the COVID lockdown thought Id give it a go and did a good job, since then I've done a few bits and got better and quicker each time. It's really not hard at all as long as you take your time and follow the old rule of measure twice cut once
Should be fine doing it yourself. Check room is square. Find centre of the room and then work back to see what gives you the biggest tile cut. Ie,if centre of room leaves you a small cut just move the line 400mill either way and start from there. If rooms out of square ping a chalk line down using the 3.4.5 square angle method. I've plumbed up off many tiled floors to put ceilings up. What's on the floor is the same above.
In reply to Post #9
My mate works on 50 quid a Sqm , but you want a grand a week so you just work it out to that roughly
My mate works on 50 quid a Sqm , but you want a grand a week so you just work it out to that roughly
In reply to Post #15
There's a massive difference between doing it as a diy'er and doing it professionally. Professional cutters and tile routers, diamond core drills and disc cutters all add up and then there's mixers and floats, laser levels etc. A rough estimate of my son's tools would be over 10k and then you'll need a van and all of this is consumable and needs replacing at some point and if you fail to budget for it you won't be in business long.
There's a massive difference between doing it as a diy'er and doing it professionally. Professional cutters and tile routers, diamond core drills and disc cutters all add up and then there's mixers and floats, laser levels etc. A rough estimate of my son's tools would be over 10k and then you'll need a van and all of this is consumable and needs replacing at some point and if you fail to budget for it you won't be in business long.
In reply to Post #18
The same could be said for any trade. I'm lucky in that I have most of that for my job as a diamond driller/cutter ,I don't have the tile router but do have the rest of the kit and it comes to nowhere near 10k, half that I'd say.
The same could be said for any trade. I'm lucky in that I have most of that for my job as a diamond driller/cutter ,I don't have the tile router but do have the rest of the kit and it comes to nowhere near 10k, half that I'd say.
In reply to Post #19
His wet cutter alone cost £2800 for the 1300mm and £900 for the small 600mm then another £500 for hand held routers and this is all without blades and core bits which start at £60 each for professional quality and go up over £200. He has been doing it successfully alongside his kitchen business for ten years now so knows exactly what the costs are. There is also less tiling work now that there was fifteen years ago as more people want glass slash backs especially in kitchens and bathrooms are going towards aqua panel walls vinyl floors.
His wet cutter alone cost £2800 for the 1300mm and £900 for the small 600mm then another £500 for hand held routers and this is all without blades and core bits which start at £60 each for professional quality and go up over £200. He has been doing it successfully alongside his kitchen business for ten years now so knows exactly what the costs are. There is also less tiling work now that there was fifteen years ago as more people want glass slash backs especially in kitchens and bathrooms are going towards aqua panel walls vinyl floors.
In reply to Post #20
If his core bits are starting at £60 then he's getting his pants pulled down mate, it's what I do for a living and have since the turn of the century so I know what they cost
If his core bits are starting at £60 then he's getting his pants pulled down mate, it's what I do for a living and have since the turn of the century so I know what they cost
In reply to Post #21
Diamond cores vary massively in quality and diamond content and I've got twenty years using them more experience than than . Try using cheap cores on porcelain tiles and see how long they last, I've used cheap ones that haven't cut one hole before burning out but then you should know that.
Diamond cores vary massively in quality and diamond content and I've got twenty years using them more experience than than . Try using cheap cores on porcelain tiles and see how long they last, I've used cheap ones that haven't cut one hole before burning out but then you should know that.
In reply to Post #22
Mate I'm fully aware of that, like I say I use them every day I'm at work. It's literally my job. But the thing is, what price you pay doesn't necessarily dictate the quality. The bits you buy from hire shops for instance, very expensive. Utter crap. If you go to a specialist supplier, you can buy the very best quality,and pay a lot less for them. Totally agree that the cheapy things anyone can go and buy splinter ,burn out and are absolutely a waste of money . Not worth the time to even order them. Anyway, we are digressing a lot from the op and his question, as he's asked about a one off job which he could do with a fairly low outlay on tooling when compared to setting up professionally. 2 very different things I'm sure you'd agree
If you let me know what sizes he uses and what drill he's turning them with I'll get him some prices next time I'm at our supplier if you want?
Mate I'm fully aware of that, like I say I use them every day I'm at work. It's literally my job. But the thing is, what price you pay doesn't necessarily dictate the quality. The bits you buy from hire shops for instance, very expensive. Utter crap. If you go to a specialist supplier, you can buy the very best quality,and pay a lot less for them. Totally agree that the cheapy things anyone can go and buy splinter ,burn out and are absolutely a waste of money . Not worth the time to even order them. Anyway, we are digressing a lot from the op and his question, as he's asked about a one off job which he could do with a fairly low outlay on tooling when compared to setting up professionally. 2 very different things I'm sure you'd agree
If you let me know what sizes he uses and what drill he's turning them with I'll get him some prices next time I'm at our supplier if you want?
In reply to Post #23
Don't forget (as a general information post..)
If you have an account at a supplier you will also get better discount rates than someone who is only going through 1 or 2 a year.
All trade suppliers work the same.
1 hole to cut then possibly better using the cheaper end of the market rather than sitting in a shed never to be used again
I always buy what I can afford rather than buy cheap
Don't forget (as a general information post..)
If you have an account at a supplier you will also get better discount rates than someone who is only going through 1 or 2 a year.
All trade suppliers work the same.
1 hole to cut then possibly better using the cheaper end of the market rather than sitting in a shed never to be used again
I always buy what I can afford rather than buy cheap
In reply to Post #24
Oh yeah of course, I know we are getting better prices for sure, but also people aren't necessarily aware of the suppliers either
Oh yeah of course, I know we are getting better prices for sure, but also people aren't necessarily aware of the suppliers either
In reply to Post #25
A quick story, there are tilers and then there are tilers, same as any trade. Had new kitchen etc, and the spark I've used for 15 years and whose opinion on other trades I trust 100%, asked who was laying our porcelain tiles, front door to back door. I told him who I was thinking of using, guy gets recommended on local FB page, I could tell by his face he wasn't impressed so he phoned another trade he knew and asked him if he would use the tiler id mentioned, other guy says no chance, him and the tiler play golf together too. The spark gave me a name and he did a fantastic job.
A quick story, there are tilers and then there are tilers, same as any trade. Had new kitchen etc, and the spark I've used for 15 years and whose opinion on other trades I trust 100%, asked who was laying our porcelain tiles, front door to back door. I told him who I was thinking of using, guy gets recommended on local FB page, I could tell by his face he wasn't impressed so he phoned another trade he knew and asked him if he would use the tiler id mentioned, other guy says no chance, him and the tiler play golf together too. The spark gave me a name and he did a fantastic job.
In reply to Post #26
Exactly and the thing with tiling is the job may look good on completion but if the preparation wasn't right and the correct adhesive, grout and sealants used it may not last long. Always ask a tradesman to give references that you can contact and many will be happy to show off their work but try and view jobs they have done in the past not just recent stuff that hasn't stood the test of time.
Exactly and the thing with tiling is the job may look good on completion but if the preparation wasn't right and the correct adhesive, grout and sealants used it may not last long. Always ask a tradesman to give references that you can contact and many will be happy to show off their work but try and view jobs they have done in the past not just recent stuff that hasn't stood the test of time.
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